Rifts... Oklahoma?

Library Ogre · Unread post by **Library Ogre** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:04 am

That I know of, little has been written about it... though, to be honest, what are you going to have in Oklahoma (or Kansas or Nebraska, for that matter)? The few population centers were likely depopulated by the Cataclysm, and then you would have the repopulation by the Indians.

So, if you're writing up Rifts: Oklahoma, I'd take a look at the native American sites which might be in the state.

Unless you want the Heavener Runestone to be a portal to Scandinavia...

Dustin Fireblade · Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:49 am

I seem to recall there are a few things in Lone Star, New West and Spirit West, but I'd have to look through them to find it.

I do know in Lone Star it mentions that a well known gang called Los Amigos is based in Oklahoma, though they have a hideout in Dallas. Oklahoma in general is a area hit hard by Pecos Raiders too.

Lone Star mentions a Commanche tribe.

New West says its a mosty unpopulated wilderness.

CyCo · Unread post by **CyCo** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:54 am

As long as you don't turn it onto a musical....

8p

Library Ogre · Unread post by **Library Ogre** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:32 pm

Josh Hilden wrote:
Mark Hall wrote:Unless you want the Heavener Runestone to be a portal to Scandinavia...

I know you dislike CB 2, but I actually used it as a route from Midgard to Asgard.

I ran some adventures that used it.

I only dislike CB2 because its research is horrid, it's insulting to a wide variety of religions, and its presentation of the various deities has me contemplating violence every time I read it.

I like the idea of the Heavener runestone being a link to Asgard. That's cool.

Josh Sinsapaugh · Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:35 pm

May want to check Rifts: Aftermath.

I don't have it in front of me, but I do believe that there is a blurb on Oklahoma.

~ Josh

Josh Sinsapaugh · Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:55 pm

Josh Hilden wrote:
Turtle wrote:Forgive my ignorance, but CB2? talking about pantheons of the megaverse?

yes

and you forgiven.

And you're forgiven for the poor grammar.

~ Josh

Zer0 Kay · Unread post by **Zer0 Kay** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:34 pm

Yeah it is still just as flat and treeless as before.

Library Ogre · Unread post by **Library Ogre** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:04 pm

Turtle wrote:Ok guys, grabbed the bopoks you all mentioned, got the info on oklahoma listed there ,and now I've run into a problem.

Was there any ever "specific" value by which the waters rose? Or is it just a "place by place" thing?

No, there was not. I've generally assumed around 30' raise along the Gulf Coast, which has very shallow waters.

Hystrix · Unread post by **Hystrix** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:30 am

Mark Hall wrote:I only dislike CB2 because its research is horrid, it's insulting to a wide variety of religions...

Like who? All those people who still worhip the Norse gods? Is there some allusion to Buddism, or Hinduism? Is it really that offinsive?

Daniel Stoker · Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:50 am

There are a number of people who do worship/venerate Norse gods still and a few on this board too I think. And yea the Hindu stuff was pretty tacky, imagine if I gave you the stats for Jesus with his special 'Water to Wine' power usable 3 times a day.

Daniel Stoker

Josh Sinsapaugh · Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:35 pm

robtheman74 wrote:
Hystrix wrote:
Mark Hall wrote:I only dislike CB2 because its research is horrid, it's insulting to a wide variety of religions...

Like who? All those people who still worhip the Norse gods? Is there some allusion to Buddism, or Hinduism? Is it really that offinsive?

There's no reason to not be offensive to religions. They've caused the death and suffering of untold millions for millenia. I encourage anyone with an open mind about religion to check out Christphers Hitchen's god is not Great: how religion poisons everything, and Richard Dawkin's the god delusion. Very good reads.

Actually, religion has never killed anyone (except perhaps ritual sacrifice).

There is ALWAYS an ulterior motive (land, wealth, etc), with religion simply being the excuse to stir the masses.

Now back to your regularly scheduled topic.

~Josh

Library Ogre · Unread post by **Library Ogre** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:19 pm

Hystrix wrote:
Mark Hall wrote:I only dislike CB2 because its research is horrid, it's insulting to a wide variety of religions...

Like who? All those people who still worhip the Norse gods? Is there some allusion to Buddism, or Hinduism? Is it really that offinsive?

I have a Thor's hammer tattooed on my upper right arm, and one to two planned ravens already finished on my left shoulder. Yes, I do know people who worship the Norse Gods, myself included; I would say proportionally, there are more gamers amongst heathens than there are amongst Christians.

As for "some allusion to Hinduism", how about some of the major deities of the pantheon? I find the suggestion that Freyja was overpowered and brain-raped by Hera somewhat offensive. Oh, and Rifts: England, where the Dagda is insane.

Bood Samel · Unread post by **Bood Samel** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:34 am

Reyn til Runa!

Library Ogre · Unread post by **Library Ogre** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:55 am

Bood Samel wrote:Reyn til Runa!

Another vote, I take it, to have CB2 somewhat rewritten?

Killer Cyborg · Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:04 am

Daniel Stoker wrote:There are a number of people who do worship/venerate Norse gods still and a few on this board too I think. And yea the Hindu stuff was pretty tacky, imagine if I gave you the stats for Jesus with his special 'Water to Wine' power usable 3 times a day.

Daniel Stoker

Personally, I'd find it kind of interesting to see Jesus statted out.

Library Ogre · Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:40 pm

Killer Cyborg wrote:
Daniel Stoker wrote:There are a number of people who do worship/venerate Norse gods still and a few on this board too I think. And yea the Hindu stuff was pretty tacky, imagine if I gave you the stats for Jesus with his special 'Water to Wine' power usable 3 times a day.

Daniel Stoker

Personally, I'd find it kind of interesting to see Jesus statted out.

Does he get power armor, and a rune sword containing the soul of Elisha? Has Judas been reconstructed as a cyborg? Has Mary Magdalene been re-imagined as a 20th level Saloon Girl?

Wōdwulf Seaxaning · Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:29 pm

Daniel Stoker wrote:There are a number of people who do worship/venerate Norse gods still and a few on this board too I think. And yea the Hindu stuff was pretty tacky, imagine if I gave you the stats for Jesus with his special 'Water to Wine' power usable 3 times a day.

Daniel Stoker

A friend of mine has been a Odinist/Asatruar for 7 years ,plus I have books on it & & general interest in it.I find most RPG refrences to Norse/Germanic folk faith/mythology as insulting .
Sgt. Leo MacKenzie CSA Commando

Stormseed · Unread post by **Stormseed** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:27 pm

Mark Hall wrote:No, there was not. I've generally assumed around 30' raise along the Gulf Coast, which has very shallow waters.

A rise of that level would pretty much obliterate Houston, IIRC.

Anyway, I'm seeing another Oklahoma Land Rush, possibly followed by a Rush to Get the Hell back Out of Oklahoma. :demon:

:flees:

Library Ogre · Unread post by **Library Ogre** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:56 pm

Stormseed wrote:
Mark Hall wrote:No, there was not. I've generally assumed around 30' raise along the Gulf Coast, which has very shallow waters.

A rise of that level would pretty much obliterate Houston, IIRC.

Anyway, I'm seeing another Oklahoma Land Rush, possibly followed by a Rush to Get the Hell back Out of Oklahoma. :flees:

Not really. Houston is, in good part, above 30'... though not much.