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The Rifter 20 has more morphus tabels than all the printed nightbane books combined!

Raist25m wrote:Funny thing happened last night. We were talking about how much of a fan-boy of Star Wars one of my players is. I jokingly stated that there ought to be a Fan-boy morphus chart.

Lo and behold.... there is.

The other player flips two pages in the Rifter, and hands it to me. I look down, and there it is. Fan boy morphus chart.

Ed Woodard III is tottally nuts. trust me, i've played under him

Nightbane Morphus Index

Legend:

BtS = Between the Shadows
NB = Nightbane RPG
NL = Nightlands
R## = Rifter ##

Wow, Tinker, is that an index you've kept on your own?

Stickied by request.

Tinker Dragoon wrote:Nightbane Morphus Index

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Clothing #2 .................................... R20 63

Any idea where Clothing #1 is?

Xar wrote:

Tinker Dragoon wrote:Nightbane Morphus Index

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Clothing #2 .................................... R20 63

Any idea where Clothing #1 is?

Beats me. It's possible that the Weird Clothing table in Rifter #1 was the intended precursor, though it had a different author. It could also have been an unpublished submission.

Oneyus wrote:The Link in Tinkers post seems to be broken.

Ah well, it served us well these last 11 years. Here's an archived version: Morphus Tables

Looking at this table again, curiousity question:
The table lists Alien Appendages #2. Where's #1?

Also, any Rifters past 20 that have Morphus tables?

Has anyone made/posted an index of all the locations of Talents?

The morphus table above will be incredibly useful during character creation, a talent table would be useful for character creation and leveling up.

Is there a new fully collected table somewhere?

*sigh* Its been (what, a decade?) and they still haven't made a consolidated list yet? The best book in the series is canceled? We waited til Hell fro0ze over, and he wonders why the book didnt sell.
And Kevin wonders why the series is dying? Im surprised the whole company isnt dying, all things considered.

Dave the dragon wrote:The best book in the series is canceled?

If you're referring to Shadows of Light, there were financial reasons at the time. And it also seems to be hit or miss on whether people like it or feel it fits the genre.

I have not seen it, I would love to, and I think now that the financial reasons are moot, the company seems to have recovered, they should reprint it, or at least offer a PDF download of it for a nominal fee.

Tinker Dragoon wrote:

Xar wrote:

Tinker Dragoon wrote:Nightbane Morphus Index

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Clothing #2 .................................... R20 63

Any idea where Clothing #1 is?

Beats me. It's possible that the Weird Clothing table in Rifter #1 was the intended precursor, though it had a different author. It could also have been an unpublished submission.

Oneyus wrote:The Link in Tinkers post seems to be broken.

Ah well, it served us well these last 11 years. Here's an archived version: Morphus Tables

The 1st clothing table is the same as in the link TD posted. It's in like R1.
Weird Clothing table. The very last on TD's list

Raist25m wrote:I think it's time now to bust out with my excel skills and create a spreadsheet and random roll chart. Once I get that set up, I'll share it with anyone that asks. It may take a while though, because I'm going to want to verify locations for all of the tables.

That would be excellent. Looking at the table above, it looks like he doesn't have anything after Rifter 20. I'm assuming there has been morphus tables since then (I don't have much after 16)?

Raist25m wrote:Are there any morphus tables people would like to see generated?

** please remember forum rules. Can't do anything that is a "conversion", etc...

A table that emulates powers from HU. Not necessarily the uber-powerful ones, just appearances and lesser-powerful ones.

Maybe add in some of the mutation tables from Rifts, too.
When you do make one, please let me know. I dont play much anymore, but thats more from lack of gamers in the area than anything else, and I love to kjeep these works for others that ask. (with proper credit to them, of course)

LostOne wrote:

Raist25m wrote:I think it's time now to bust out with my excel skills and create a spreadsheet and random roll chart. Once I get that set up, I'll share it with anyone that asks. It may take a while though, because I'm going to want to verify locations for all of the tables.

That would be excellent. Looking at the table above, it looks like he doesn't have anything after Rifter 20. I'm assuming there has been morphus tables since then (I don't have much after 16)?

I am missing Rifter issues 34-37. Of the issues I do have, no new Morphus tables appeared between issues 20 and 42. I'll update the list to include issues 42 and 44.

Tyciol wrote:The main thing I think would be useful is a table that references all the sourcebooks and all the Rifters which supplement Morphus tables (and GMs rerolling whenever they get a result they don't want to use). The Rifter supplements usually came with tables but only referencing their own additions and not those in other Rifters.

That's because that would be a page or three in every Rifter that is incomplete as soon as another Rifter with Morphus tables comes out. Same with HU Powers, etc. By not posting and reposting those tables in every issue of the Rifter, they save pages and keep costs down.

Instead, there needs to be official randomizing tables on the website that get updated everytime new Morphus tables and HU powers are published, downloadable as FREE PDFs.

will the new book have a semi-complete listing? Or will it be the same hacked up cut%paste that drove so many ways

I suppose that is TECHNICALLY a horrible monster...but not in the way the game intended...

Nope.


Daniel Stoker

greenclowd99 wrote:If a nightbane is forced into a fight w/ a being that has the Negate Superpower ability. Will there talents be negated in battle??

No, because talents arn't superpowers. They're talents.

No, Anti-magic cloud and similar anti-magic stuff won't work either. They arn't magic. They are a completely unique force, utterly unrelated to anything else in palladium. And no, there is no way to negate them either.

I'm pretty sure if you pump enough bullets fast enough into a Nightbane that will negate their ability to use their talents....


Daniel Stoker

Why? A save vs pain to continue, and that marvelous healing factor, and things are still going fine, right up till he uses his supernatural strength to throw a car at you

Of course, it depends on the gameworld. Heroes is fine for that; Rifts is a nightmare (figuring damage for a thrown SAMAS was fun, though) and the other games where it isnt possible reduce the craziness. Except N&SS; a NB with Tai Chi, where he can pump his chi into raising his strength even higher can get really scary, really fast

I think Dan meant that a Nightbane's death would negate their talents.

Nekira Sudacne wrote:No, Anti-magic cloud and similar anti-magic stuff won't work either. They arn't magic. They are a completely unique force, utterly unrelated to anything else in palladium. And no, there is no way to negate them either.

I consider them magical so in my games anti-magic cloud and similar stuff would stop them. If you know of somewhere in the books that says otherwise, I'd love to know where so I can read that I'm doing this wrong.

Xar wrote:I think Dan meant that a Nightbane's death would negate their talents.

That's how I took it.

Sorry, missed the "snark" tags. It was supposeed to be funny.
But then, that whole save vs dying might finally come in handy for once Usually, ya just throw a car at the problem and its solved. (Big problems may require a buss)

If Brute Force isn't working you're not using enough?


Daniel Stoker

Daniel Stoker wrote:If Brute Force isn't working you're not using enough?


Daniel Stoker

Didn't there used to be a poster who went by the name "Brute Force"?

Xar wrote:

Daniel Stoker wrote:If Brute Force isn't working you're not using enough?


Daniel Stoker

Didn't there used to be a poster who went by the name "Brute Force"?

Several, actually. What timespan are you referring to?

One thing I love about being a professional lurker: no matter how many times my "date joined" gets rebooted for various reasons It doesnt change the fact that Ive been here in one name or another since 1996, back when there were only a handful of us deadboys posting
(bonus points if anyone can guess which one I was )







I posted on the PDF, and I will here too: I was surprised at the price of the Shadows of Light price on Drive Thru. Most companies that sell OOP/dropped books that wont be coming back usually slash the price to under $3 (Mongoose usually sells for 50cents) Does this mean that SoL is going to be reworked and brought back? or is this just standard PB pricing for all books at DT?

Dave the dragon wrote:

Xar wrote:

Daniel Stoker wrote:If Brute Force isn't working you're not using enough?


Daniel Stoker

Didn't there used to be a poster who went by the name "Brute Force"?

Several, actually. What timespan are you referring to?

One thing I love about being a professional lurker: no matter how many times my "date joined" gets rebooted for various reasons It doesnt change the fact that Ive been here in one name or another since 1996, back when there were only a handful of us deadboys posting
(bonus points if anyone can guess which one I was )

It would have been pre 2001...back at the old threaded boards. If I remember now, he went by BruteForce, no space; internal capitalization.

If I had to guess to a former login name, I would consider a guess that you used to post by the initials C.M.

The NB-SG complies the Offical Tables in NB, NB-NL, NB-BtS, and NB-SG together.
It does not include the Rifter Tables though.

The Fanboy Table was Cool.
I use it for a NB to gain the Exact Appearance, Cloths, Weapons, Voice of Whatever they are a Fanboy Of. Then use the other Tables to build the NB-Features it would have anyways.

Dave the dragon wrote:I posted on the PDF, and I will here too: I was surprised at the price of the Shadows of Light price on Drive Thru. Most companies that sell OOP/dropped books that wont be coming back usually slash the price to under $3 (Mongoose usually sells for 50cents) Does this mean that SoL is going to be reworked and brought back? or is this just standard PB pricing for all books at DT?

Standard pricing.

if its a "dead" book, shouldnt it be discounted?

Just sayin, why pay that much for a book that the publisher and author both called "crap" (they may have politely called it crap, but thats the designation none the less)

Because palladium dosn't actually understand the online PDF business.

I take that back. What they were not is using it to the best extent possible.

They're still very much a print-minded publisher. That's why no new titles are avaible on PDF.

basically, people have been telling them for years "PDF's are great, you should use them", but they're worried about piracy and perfer books.

So basically what it is, is they're taking books they never had intention of publishing again, and putting it on there because it dosn't cost them anything to do it.

They are not marketing it, persay, so much as making it avaible because people told them they should.

I don't know if this helps anyone but it seems to be a rather complete chart I found. It's a little aqward to roll on with conventional dice but the link below the list seems to fit the bill for rolls.
http://rpgaming.prophpbb.com/topic4703.html

MorbidGorilla wrote:I don't know if this helps anyone but it seems to be a rather complete chart I found. It's a little aqward to roll on with conventional dice but the link below the list seems to fit the bill for rolls.
http://rpgaming.prophpbb.com/topic4703.html

Nice find MG....thanks for posting.

Tinker Dragoon wrote:Nightbane Morphus Index

Legend:

BtS = Between the Shadows
NB = Nightbane RPG
NL = Nightlands
R## = Rifter ##

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(Another) New Stigmata ......................... R44 38
Alien Appendages #2 ............................ R15 52
Alien Shape .................................... NB 103
Animal Form: Armadillo ......................... R1 85
Animal Form: Bear .............................. BtS 130
Animal Form: Amphibian ......................... BtS 131
Animal Form: Arachnid .......................... NB 94
Animal Form: Avian/Bird ........................ NB 94
Animal Form: Bat ............................... NB 95
Animal Form: Canine ............................ NB 96
Animal Form: Crustacean ........................ R15 53
Animal Form: Dolphin/Whale ..................... R1 86
Animal Form: Equine/Bovine/Deer ................ NB 96
Animal Form: Feline ............................ NB 97
Animal Form: Fish .............................. R15 55
Animal Form: Griffin ........................... R1 89
Animal Form: Insectoid ......................... NB 98
Animal Form: Octopoid .......................... R15 53
Animal Form: Otter ............................. R1 90
Animal Form: Porcine ........................... R42 83
Animal Form: Reptilian ......................... NB 99
Animal Form: Rodent ............................ NB 100
Animal Form: Saurian ........................... R1 91
Animal Form: Snake ............................. NB 100
Animated Nightbane ............................. R1 84
Aura ........................................... R15 51
Biomechanical I ................................ NB 105
Biomechanical II ............................... BtS 131
Car and Motorcycle ............................. R44 34
Chimera: Body .................................. R20 41
Chimera: Coloration ............................ R20 42
Chimera: Hair & Fur ............................ R20 43
Chimera: Head & Face ........................... R20 43
Chimera: Limbs ................................. R20 40
Chimera: Skin .................................. R20 41
Chimera: Stench ................................ R20 42
Clothing #2 .................................... R20 63
Dinosaur Form: Ankylosaurids ................... R20 44
Dinosaur Form: Ceratopids ...................... R20 45
Dinosaur Form: Dromeosaurids ................... R20 46
Dinosaur Form: Hadrosaurids .................... R20 47
Dinosaur Form: Pterosaurids .................... R20 47
Dinosaur Form: Sauropods ....................... R20 48
Dinosaur Form: Stegosaurids .................... R20 48
Dinosaur Form: Tyrannosaurids .................. R20 49
Dream Job/Childhood Fantasy .................... R44 29
Enlarged Features .............................. R1 86
Equipment ...................................... R20 63
Everglades ..................................... R1 87
Fish Limbs and Attributes ...................... R15 55
Food ........................................... R15 52
Freakish Appearance ............................ R15 58
Gross Stigmata ................................. R1 89
Head ........................................... R42 84
Hobbies ........................................ R44 31
Medieval Fantasy: Dragon ....................... R20 53
Medieval Fantasy: Faerie ....................... R20 54
Medieval Fantasy: Knight ....................... R20 52
Medieval Fantasy: Ogre ......................... R20 54
Medieval Fantasy: Royalty ...................... R20 50
Medieval Fantasy: Wizard ....................... R20 51
Megalomaniac ................................... R20 65
Military Hardware Biomechanical ................ R44 36
Mineral ........................................ NL 141
Multiple Body .................................. R20 64
Oafish Appearance .............................. R15 59
Plant Life ..................................... NL 142
Science Fiction: Alien World ................... R20 55
Science Fiction: Cybernetics ................... R20 56
Science Fiction: Extraterrestrial .............. R20 57
Science Fiction: Sci-Fi Equipment .............. R20 58
Science Fiction: Space Craft ................... R20 58
Sports/Athletics ............................... R44 32
Stigmata I ..................................... NB 101
Stigmata II .................................... BtS 132
Submersible Biomech ............................ R15 56
Themed Morphus: Chosen One ..................... R20 33
Themed Morphus: Cursed ......................... R20 38
Themed Morphus: Dark Side ...................... R20 34
Themed Morphus: Fan Boy ........................ R20 39
Themed Morphus: Robot/Cyborg ................... R20 35
Themed Morphus: Spirit of Nature ............... R20 37
Themed Morphus: Victim ......................... R20 36
Toy/Gizmo Alien Features ....................... R15 59
Undead ......................................... R15 60
Unearthly Beauty ............................... NB 92
Unnatural Limbs ................................ NB 104
Unusual Blood (Stigmata/Alien) ................. R15 62
Unusual Facial Features ........................ NB 102
Weird Clothing ................................. R1 92

Nice. Thank you.

Raist25m wrote:Are there any morphus tables people would like to see generated?

** please remember forum rules. Can't do anything that is a "conversion", etc...

Shark animal table.

Maelstrom wrote:Im a great fan of NIGHTBANE setting

I still called it Nightspawn. Always will.

how about a skunk table or a second toy table?

Has anyone created an updated Appearance Chart?

I know some of the morphus tables aren't even in the NBSG. Like Food, Aura, Fan-Boy, Porcine, Blood, etc.

Is there anyone who has made an appearance chart that includes these?

Hey, Stattick's Famous Morphus Table isn't on there. It should totally be on there. It's famous.

http://palladiumbooks.com/forums/viewto ... =6&t=58003

anybody ever do a famous movie monster table yet?

I'm pretty sure you come construct a Kaiju morphus by using the current tables and writing out the char morphus description to make it look like the kaiju of you want.

To make a 'Zilla' morphus: t-rex body and stegasorus plates from the dino tables and breath weapon from the dragon table (all R20).
And just write up the descriptive text so he/she looks like a 'Zilla'.

Based on Tinker's list...

Nekira Sudacne wrote:

greenclowd99 wrote:If a nightbane is forced into a fight w/ a being that has the Negate Superpower ability. Will there talents be negated in battle??

No, because talents arn't superpowers. They're talents.

No, Anti-magic cloud and similar anti-magic stuff won't work either. They arn't magic. They are a completely unique force, utterly unrelated to anything else in palladium. And no, there is no way to negate them either.

Except I had a GM that tried to do so by saying demons could do it. It made me shy away from Nightbane for a long time.

I've done a random roll set of tables for determining Morphus for my own game. It includes everything that TechnicDragon listed above as well as those from Dark Designs & the Net. If anybody would be interested in them drop me an email at fhf4152@yahoo & I can give you the list.