Madhaven: Seriously Fun =)

Spinachcat · Unread post by **Spinachcat** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:52 pm

How much info do we get on specific places in NooYawk? Do we get any maps of the city? What about adventure hooks? Also, do we get a strong understanding what people salvage out of Madhaven? And why they go?

Josh Sinsapaugh · Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:20 pm

How's the interior art?

~ Josh

Josh Sinsapaugh · Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:33 pm

Phalanx wrote:
Josh Sinsapaugh wrote:How's the interior art?

~ Josh

It's different, especially for the monsters. I think it captures the feeling of the setting well, though. The art for the White Knights really stands out in sharp, clear contrast to the gritty and gloomy art depicted elsewhere.

Cool.

Does that new artist that first appeared in Rifter #34 (IIRC his name is Nick Bradshaw) do some of the art.

IMO he is perfect for the setting.

~ Josh

Josh Sinsapaugh · Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:39 pm

Phalanx wrote:
Josh Sinsapaugh wrote:Cool.

Does that new artist that first appeared in Rifter #34 (IIRC his name is Nick Bradshaw) do some of the art.

IMO he is important for the setting.

~ Josh

I'll have to check the book when I get home.

Fine by me.

The book will get here sometime before Wednesday.

~ Josh

bathawk · Unread post by **bathawk** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:57 pm

(RCC groupie here)

so four classess are Mystic Knight variants I take it? interesting

I heard there were about 8 total, I assume the other four are mutant classess?

anythign else that would be included in the "GM's guide?" equipments, skills, magic spells, vehicles?

bathawk · Unread post by **bathawk** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:09 pm

oh boy oh boy 10-12 OCC/RCC's?

seems like just enough to keep me happy, while enough background/map/NPC stuff to keep the "OCC minimalists" smiling as well

RoadWarriorFWaNK · Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:16 pm

I haven't seen the finished product yet. Did Kevin keep all the stuff we wrote about salvaging artifacts?

BookWyrm · Unread post by **BookWyrm** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:16 pm

Ooooooh

I so gotta get this book now. Once I pick it up, I'm gonna do the "Marvel Walking Tour" thing & see what places I know get totally trashed.

Josh Sinsapaugh · Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:18 pm

Phalanx wrote:
Josh Sinsapaugh wrote:Cool.

Does that new artist that first appeared in Rifter #34 (IIRC his name is Nick Bradshaw) do some of the art.

IMO he is perfect for the setting.

~ Josh

His is the first name listed for the artists.

Burles does some great art for the ruins. Apollo really gives the White Knights life. Bradshaw does some killer mutants and monsters. In fact, he does all of them except Freddie Williams' Ruin Lizard and Toothback Wallcrawler. Brian Manning did a good job on the TW armors and gear. Russell did the ghosts and entities to good effect.

I can't express in words how much that makes me want the book now (especially with the unintentional "teasers" you did by mentioning names), so I will fall back on Emoticons:

You mean I have to wait till tomorrow at the absolute earliest, likely Monday or Wednesday? = :ugh:

Josh want book now, damn you UPS man! = :badbad:

~ Josh

Kalinda · Unread post by **Kalinda** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:09 pm

My copy was waiting for me when I got home from work, and I'm about 10 pages into it now. I agree with Phalanx's comments, very good stuff, very gritty, scary feel to it all. I like. 8-)

gaby · Unread post by **gaby** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:22 am

Can you give the Names of the 8 new Mutants R.C.C and the 7 Ghosts?

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:40 am

I agree...this book, the illos look appropriately like the bad acid-trip that Madhaven's supposed to be...

And if the BIg Apple generated such serious bad vibes in its death threws, can you imagine what the bad karma zone around the LA Basin must be like?

rat_bastard · Unread post by **rat_bastard** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:53 am

my Flgs has not recived their copies yet! i AM FULL OF WRATH!!!

actually, I am impatient, but I wnat to make my money help both palladuim and my FLGS so I am taking this sacrifice unto myself.

Stormseed · Unread post by **Stormseed** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:37 pm

I'm waiting for Gen Con to buy my copy. Now I want August to get here even more.

Slag · Unread post by **Slag** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:55 pm

Josh Sinsapaugh wrote:
Does that new artist that first appeared in Rifter #34 (IIRC his name is Nick Bradshaw) do some of the art.

IMO he is perfect for the setting.

~ Josh

YES...and it is CRREEEEEEEEPPPYYYYYY!!!!!. :frazz:

Great Stuff! :ok:

I want Bradshaw to do some art for Delta Blues, Dark Woods, and Voodoo!

As for Madhaven, awesome. Just awesome. 'Lanx summed it up very well, so I'll defer to him.

bathawk · Unread post by **bathawk** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:32 pm

*sigh* still waiting, bookstore said my (already paid) copy of Mad Haven should be in on Wendsday

*sigh* again

Josh Sinsapaugh · Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:03 pm

bathawk wrote:*sigh* still waiting, bookstore said my (already paid) copy of Mad Haven should be in on Wendsday

*sigh* again

Yeah...hasn't arrived for me yet longer.

I swear, if it doesn't arrive tomorrow that I'll...

...be disappointed and keep waiting.

~ Josh

The Galactus Kid · Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:15 pm

I finally got mine today. um...wow. I can only say that I was more than a little excited to hold my first book. Taylor White and I will be at GenCon on Saturday to sign autographs and stuff and generally hang out. It should be a blast. SOme of the stuff that was cut out should also be apearing in a rifter here soon. (maybe 36 or 37). In other news, I'm up to page 102 on the Triax 2 Manuscript with no signs of stopping yet. It should be a pretty sizable book.

Reddenedone · Unread post by **Reddenedone** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:17 pm

The Galactus Kid wrote:I finally got mine today. um...wow. I can only say that I was more than a little excited to hold my first book. Taylor White and I will be at GenCon on Saturday to sign autographs and stuff and generally hang out. It should be a blast. SOme of the stuff that was cut out should also be apearing in a rifter here soon. (maybe 36 or 37). In other news, I'm up to page 102 on the Triax 2 Manuscript with no signs of stopping yet. It should be a pretty sizable book.

We shall keep our fingers crossed then. Now, I believe I should be the first to say, "BACK TO WORK!" :thwak:

Unread post by **NMI** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:12 am

Stormseed wrote:I'm waiting for Gen Con to buy my copy. Now I want August to get here even more.

I will see you at gencon and purchasing a copy as well.

Mech-Viper Prime · Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:29 pm

well i finally got my copy of madhaven today

atleast the occ and rcc have a point in this book and not a new version of some old occ retooled under a different name

The Mightly Lady , is a wonderful twist

overall i find the book a nicely done (maybe a new thread should be which weapons are better mutants or dino bone weapons :lol:

)

Mister Aten and Mister White, you did a good job and how does it feel to be the writers of the smallest world book

Josh Sinsapaugh · Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:40 pm

Mech-Viper wrote:well i finally got my copy of madhaven today

atleast the occ and rcc have a point in this book and not a new version of some old occ retooled under a different name

The Mightly Lady , is a wonderful twist

overall i find the book a nicely done (maybe a new thread should be which weapons are better mutants or dino bone weapons )

Mister Aten and Mister White, you did a good job and how does it feel to be the writers of the smallest world book

Don't forget Kevin, his contribution to the book is nothing to sneeze at.

~ Josh

rat_bastard · Unread post by **rat_bastard** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:29 pm

just got my copy yesterday and it is very very interesting.

The mutants made my skin crawl, especially the metal morph, that thing creeped me out. the Great lady is a incredible cultural/plot point excellent idea, its good to see more religion being put into rifts earth.

two things irked me though...

one on the mutant bone weapons, did the idea of arrows never occur to them? Or are the mutants really stuck on the idea of a rumble in the urban jungle?

the other thing was the lack of a market cost for the incredible mystic knight armor, look even if a peice of equipment is completely exclusive to one group/area, there should be a listed market cost, if only for comparison.

Mech-Viper Prime · Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:31 am

Josh Sinsapaugh wrote:
Mech-Viper wrote:well i finally got my copy of madhaven today

atleast the occ and rcc have a point in this book and not a new version of some old occ retooled under a different name

The Mightly Lady , is a wonderful twist

overall i find the book a nicely done (maybe a new thread should be which weapons are better mutants or dino bone weapons )

Mister Aten and Mister White, you did a good job and how does it feel to be the writers of the smallest world book

Don't forget Kevin, his contribution to the book is nothing to sneeze at.

~ Josh

Kevsim doesnt count unless his name is on the front of the book

Carl Gleba · Unread post by **Carl Gleba** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:12 pm

Well got mine saturday and I've been reading a little each day. It only gets better the farther I get into it. Guys, I really like the Isis connection, plus how you did the Mystic Knights of the White Rose and Central Park is really cool. Great job Brandon and Taylor. I look forward to more of your books.

Carl

Warwolf · Unread post by **Warwolf** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:34 pm

Carl Gleba wrote:Well got mine saturday and I've been reading a little each day. It only gets better the farther I get into it. Guys, I really like the Isis connection, plus how you did the Mystic Knights of the White Rose and Central Park is really cool. Great job Brandon and Taylor. I look forward to more of your books.

Yeah, the Isis connection was the "sneak peek" I got of the book. I can't wait to pick up my copy so I can read about it in-depth. :-D

BookWyrm · Unread post by **BookWyrm** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:57 pm

I called The Compleat Strategist in NYC today & they said it's in, and they're hoping the Rifter #35 will be in tomorrow (7/28), which makes my trip into Manhattan even better.

Josh Sinsapaugh · Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:00 pm

argos wrote:The best thing about madhaven for me is that, unlike every other place in Rifts, Madhaven is the real manhatten. Chi Town isnt really, chicago.

To reinforce your point, and for clarity's sake, Chi-Town is not even built on the site of pre-Rifts Chicago, it is several miles away.

~ Josh

Reagren Wright · Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:38 pm

I love the new entities. These are the kinds of entities I've been waiting
for. The White Rose and their Knights is cool too. I always thought the
Mystic Knights would make great good guys, glad to see someone
take that opportuntiy. Mixed feelings about the Mutants.

I'm also curious to know if the effects of Madhaven are unique to it.
Wouldn't someone of the other major cities have a similar fate? Then again,
Madhaven and Chi-Town are among the few cities not to have
some super bad guy hanging around.

All in all, a great book. Looking forward to having the authors sign their
names to it. :ok:

BookWyrm · Unread post by **BookWyrm** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:44 am

argos wrote:I got my copy from the one on east 33.

The best thing about madhaven for me is that, unlike every other place in Rifts, Madhaven is the real manhatten. Chi Town isnt really, chicago. But with madhaven, i can read the book in the exact place its describing. Its surreal. I look around and picture what it would look like how crazy it would be. Picturing the buildings torn and crumbling. Imagining it is scary, especially if your go to one of the uncrowded streets at night when no one is there. Its freaky. That adds so much to the ambience of the book for me.

Exactly! When I get mine I can hardly wait to make the comparissons.

rat_bastard · Unread post by **rat_bastard** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:17 am

so umn... Why is Madhaven not under water?... the rest of the east coast is....

RoadWarriorFWaNK · Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:56 am

ummmm...because that would be lame.

Carl Gleba · Unread post by **Carl Gleba** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:03 am

rat_bastard wrote:so umn... Why is Madhaven not under water?... the rest of the east coast is....

The authors do a fine job at explaining that. Guess you'll have to buy the book, or three

Carl

The Galactus Kid · Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:03 am

LOL. Yeah rat bastard. In the history of Madhaven it details what happened. Look for "The Collapse"

Kevin did revise a bit of the book and added ALOT of info on the mutants. He created a bunch of the new races since originally we only had one. Some material that we thought was critical was cut out in the process, but as I said earlier it should be finding its way into a Rifter article as official material (much like the holy house article for Arzno in Rifter #34) sometime soon.

BookWyrm · Unread post by **BookWyrm** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:19 am

Yes, I would like to see the "cut out" Madhaven material in a immediate future Rifter.

Josh Sinsapaugh · Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:11 pm

rat_bastard wrote:so umn... Why is Madhaven not under water?... the rest of the east coast is....

Wow...

Mahaven has been above water since the original Rifts Main Book, and even then they tell you why.

In Madhaven look under the section called "The Collapse."

~ Josh

shadrak · Unread post by **shadrak** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:37 pm

You know what coulda been cool (although I like madhaven the way it is) is to flood madhaven like venice.

I guess if you really want to play that way, you can use some of the underground tunnels.

rat_bastard · Unread post by **rat_bastard** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:44 pm

well, bite my taint.... :shock:

I was wondering why madhaven was so close to philly.

so far its been a great read, is anyone going to have a stickied topic on madhaven like we did for that over hyped rifter compilation WB 28?

dark brandon · Unread post by **dark brandon** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:49 pm

Lord_Coake wrote:I am loving the Mystic Knights of the White Rose. Specifically the Keepers.
A hard-hitting, mystical Hospitlar Knight. Just what Rifts has needed. Move over, Cyber-Knights, your competition has arrived.

Fun fact, in my game, another new player has made a Keeper of the Garden and is integrating himself into the party quite well. The teamup between him and the two Cyber-Knights is a nasty, nasty combo for supernatural enemies to deal with.

Keeper is rad. It's unfortunate you didn't get to see the Redeamer (though it will probably make it in the rifter). It was an awesome OCC and my personal favorites of most things in there.

dark brandon · Unread post by **dark brandon** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:02 pm

rat_bastard wrote:so umn... Why is Madhaven not under water?... the rest of the east coast is....

Because the yankees won the world series that year and got a "get out of being under the ocean" free card. That and because ghosts can't swim.

BookWyrm · Unread post by **BookWyrm** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 1:58 pm

LOL, argos!

I got my copy of Madhaven yesterday at Strat. Gotta look through it more today, maybe tomorrow.

Josh Sinsapaugh · Sat Jul 29, 2006 2:03 pm

argos wrote:
dark brandon wrote:
rat_bastard wrote:so umn... Why is Madhaven not under water?... the rest of the east coast is....

Because the yankees won the world series that year and got a "get out of being under the ocean" free card. That and because ghosts can't swim.

I think you mean the Mets, you know, the real NY team

Notice how Shea Stadium didn't survive the Great Cataclysm? Yankee Stadium did (but which Yankee Stadium?).

Ultimate proof that fate, God and Rifts favors the Yankees, over the Mets.

~ Josh

Josh Sinsapaugh · Sat Jul 29, 2006 2:21 pm

argos wrote:
Josh Sinsapaugh wrote:
Notice how Shea Stadium didn't survive the Great Cataclysm? Yankee Stadium did (but which Yankee Stadium?).

Thats cuz all the survivors wanted to pick at the remnants as soueneirs. They left Yankee stadium cuz there was nothing there they wanted.

Nah, It's because God made sure he washed Shea Stadium off the face of the Earth.

What little pieces that were left have been chucked into the East River by Haven Mutants... even they know how anything Mets related brings you bad luck... save for odd flukes once every 20 years.

~ Josh

Mech-Viper Prime · Sat Jul 29, 2006 3:05 pm

i think we should give them both a "bronx cheer" :lol: