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ISP and Copies/Multiple form Mutants

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:15 pm
by Rimmerdal
Would ISP be divided up among the duplicates or would they have their own personal supply of ISP?

Re: ISP and Copies/Multiple form Mutants

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:29 pm
by Killer Cyborg
Rimmerdal wrote:Would ISP be divided up among the duplicates or would they have their own personal supply of ISP?


If they had ISP to begin with, I'd assume that they'd each have their own.
Although I think it might be whatever the original had at the time of the duplication, not their max.

Re: ISP and Copies/Multiple form Mutants

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:57 pm
by drewkitty ~..~
This has been discussed before and there was no consensus about how things would work out.
Some were in favor of any mystic energies being divided and other were in favor of them being full up on them.

Re: ISP and Copies/Multiple form Mutants

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:34 am
by The Beast
drewkitty ~..~ wrote:This has been discussed before and there was no consensus about how things would work out.
Some were in favor of any mystic energies being divided and other were in favor of them being full up on them.


Do hit points, SDC, and/or MDC get divided up?

Re: ISP and Copies/Multiple form Mutants

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:01 pm
by drewkitty ~..~
The Beast wrote:
drewkitty ~..~ wrote:This has been discussed before and there was no consensus about how things would work out.
Some were in favor of any mystic energies being divided and other were in favor of them being full up on them.


Do hit points, SDC, and/or MDC get divided up?

I do believe that the clone/other self having their full HP/SDC was not in dispute. Only the mystic power points were being discussed...argued over.

Re: ISP and Copies/Multiple form Mutants

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:31 pm
by The Beast
drewkitty ~..~ wrote:
The Beast wrote:
drewkitty ~..~ wrote:This has been discussed before and there was no consensus about how things would work out.
Some were in favor of any mystic energies being divided and other were in favor of them being full up on them.


Do hit points, SDC, and/or MDC get divided up?

I do believe that the clone/other self having their full HP/SDC was not in dispute. Only the mystic power points were being discussed...argued over.


The reason I'm asking is because if they don't get divided up, then neither should PPE or ISP.

Re: ISP and Copies/Multiple form Mutants

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:41 am
by drewkitty ~..~
The Beast wrote:
drewkitty ~..~ wrote:
The Beast wrote:
drewkitty ~..~ wrote:This has been discussed before and there was no consensus about how things would work out.
Some were in favor of any mystic energies being divided and other were in favor of them being full up on them.


Do hit points, SDC, and/or MDC get divided up?

I do believe that the clone/other self having their full HP/SDC was not in dispute. Only the mystic power points were being discussed...argued over.


The reason I'm asking is because if they don't get divided up, then neither should PPE or ISP.

Then all of the mystical power would stay with the original or all of it would be transfer to the clone.
*shrugs*
There is no Canon Text covering any "Mystical Energies" and whether or not they are divided or otherwise.

On another note.
I don't really care too much, so long as the individual game's GM makes a ruling and is consistent in applying said ruling. Of course I would like to know what said ruling would be before deciding on my char thus not getting stuck with a char who's concept goes against the GM's ruling about said thing.

Re: ISP and Copies/Multiple form Mutants

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 3:36 am
by Tor
I could see them having slightly less ISP if you have the 1perLev option since 1 level lower could mean ~10 less ISP or however much.

Re: ISP and Copies/Multiple form Mutants

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 3:44 pm
by Rimmerdal
Could use your dupes as extra PPE..for those cost heavy spells..Hmmm not a bad thought.

Re: ISP and Copies/Multiple form Mutants

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 3:57 pm
by Nightmask
Rimmerdal wrote:Could use your dupes as extra PPE..for those cost heavy spells..Hmmm not a bad thought.


Instant cult for those ritual spells that require a group of people to cast them. Even better if you've Sorcerous Proficiencies from Nightbane for Group Casting and Ritual Spells.

Re: ISP and Copies/Multiple form Mutants

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:32 pm
by Tor
Luckily the only way to start off with both spells and super-powers is to be a Mystic Bestowed.

There's also that bit in CB1 about super-powered guys having to be Adventurers, and not being Warriors/Mages. Although that could be interpreted as being about starting OCC, and the powers being tied to that, and not forbidding multiple OCCs.

IE you can have energy expulsion light as a vagabond and then learn to be a LLW, but if you're a 10th level LLW and a 2nd level Vagabond, your EE light would only be lvl 2.

Re: ISP and Copies/Multiple form Mutants

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:40 pm
by drewkitty ~..~
Rimmerdal wrote:Could use your dupes as extra PPE..for those cost heavy spells..Hmmm not a bad thought.

In Naruto Shippudden, after he has learned how to be a 'Sage' he uses his his shadow clones to store and hold "sage energy" (it's been a while so take it with a grain of salt and fuzz over the bumps), so while he is fighting he can recharge himself with 'sage energy' when he recalls on of the shadow clones.
The why he does this is that the only way to charge up with 'sage energy is to be still-unmoving. Not something you can do in the middle of a fight.

Re: ISP and Copies/Multiple form Mutants

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:37 pm
by Lenwen
The Beast wrote:
drewkitty ~..~ wrote:
The Beast wrote:
drewkitty ~..~ wrote:This has been discussed before and there was no consensus about how things would work out.
Some were in favor of any mystic energies being divided and other were in favor of them being full up on them.


Do hit points, SDC, and/or MDC get divided up?

I do believe that the clone/other self having their full HP/SDC was not in dispute. Only the mystic power points were being discussed...argued over.


The reason I'm asking is because if they don't get divided up, then neither should PPE or ISP.

No the hp's / sdc's / mdc is not split up between the Multiple selves Power. Each has according to the full topped off hero/villain.

And after just now reading it, while responding to this post, I'm inclined to say that the dup's (as the book calls them) have their own ISP, which is 1 lvl amount lower, then the Original's.

Re: ISP and Copies/Multiple form Mutants

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:05 pm
by The Beast
drewkitty ~..~ wrote:
Rimmerdal wrote:Could use your dupes as extra PPE..for those cost heavy spells..Hmmm not a bad thought.

In Naruto Shippudden, after he has learned how to be a 'Sage' he uses his his shadow clones to store and hold "sage energy" (it's been a while so take it with a grain of salt and fuzz over the bumps), so while he is fighting he can recharge himself with 'sage energy' when he recalls on of the shadow clones.
The why he does this is that the only way to charge up with 'sage energy is to be still-unmoving. Not something you can do in the middle of a fight.


Hey hey hey hey hey. Spoilers there guy. Cartoon Network has finally picked up Disney XD's slack and started airing that anime again. Now I just gotta wait another year or so before they catch up to where I left off at. :badbad:

Re: ISP and Copies/Multiple form Mutants

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:15 pm
by drewkitty ~..~
The Beast wrote:
drewkitty ~..~ wrote:
Rimmerdal wrote:Could use your dupes as extra PPE..for those cost heavy spells..Hmmm not a bad thought.

In Naruto Shippudden, after he has learned how to be a 'Sage' he uses his his shadow clones to store and hold "sage energy" (it's been a while so take it with a grain of salt and fuzz over the bumps), so while he is fighting he can recharge himself with 'sage energy' when he recalls on of the shadow clones.
The why he does this is that the only way to charge up with 'sage energy is to be still-unmoving. Not something you can do in the middle of a fight.


Hey hey hey hey hey. Spoilers there guy. Cartoon Network has finally picked up Disney XD's slack and started airing that anime again. Now I just gotta wait another year or so before they catch up to where I left off at. :badbad:

Its on Hulu.
I'm only a week behind, because you have to have Hulu+ to get the very new'est ep.
Cours I'd rather watch it w/o the english dubs.

Re: ISP and Copies/Multiple form Mutants

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:26 pm
by Tor
drewkitty ~..~ wrote:In Naruto Shippudden, after he has learned...

Dude, edit in some spoiler tags around that stuff plox, some of us are on hiatus around the Orochimaru crystal witch filler saga ~ep 90 in Ship. Even the jutsu you mention is a pleasant surprise to whoever watches him learn it in the 1st ep of first series.

drewkitty ~..~ wrote:Its on Hulu. I'm only a week behind, because you have to have Hulu+ to get the very new'est ep. Cours I'd rather watch it w/o the english dubs.
Even if something has aired for free, people may not be up to date so it's still a spoiler :(

On a related note, everyone should stop mentioning what happens to Tolkeen, it's a surprise =)

Re: ISP and Copies/Multiple form Mutants

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:03 pm
by The Beast
drewkitty ~..~ wrote:Its on Hulu.


Yeah, I don't use Hulu...