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Which book has this mecha in it?

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http://misfits.wdfiles.com/local--files/mecha/ZSB.jpg

Its a REF(?) style Female Zentraedi Power Armor.

I don't remember seeing it in any of the main books. Was it from a Rifter?
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Return of the Masters, Expanded Edition(first ed. rules)

It's part of a shipment of abandoned experimental RDF designs that the PCs can find during the Invid Invasion arc.
Other gems include a Super-Alpha, Advanced Recon Battloid, and a pimped-up Super-Logan.
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taalismn wrote:Return of the Masters, Expanded Edition(first ed. rules)

It's part of a shipment of abandoned experimental RDF designs that the PCs can find during the Invid Invasion arc.
Other gems include a Super-Alpha, Advanced Recon Battloid, and a pimped-up Super-Logan.

I loved that Super-Logan more than I should. I was so disappointed that I didn't get to use them when I was running Robotech that I used them in Rifts. They died so spectacularly.
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Re: Which book has this mecha in it?

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It is only in the Extended Edition, page 110.

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Warshield73 wrote:[
I loved that Super-Logan more than I should. I was so disappointed that I didn't get to use them when I was running Robotech that I used them in Rifts. They died so spectacularly.


One of my long-ago Rifts exercises was to create human-sized AI-drone miniatures of the Robotech mecha using roughly corresponding hums-scale weapons systems(mini-missiles or rocket-propelled grenades filling in for missile systems, submachine guns for heavy machine guns, light rail guns for gun pods, re-tasked cyborg systems for a lot of other systems, etc.). It was part of a marketing ploy by an interdimensional arms company; imagine having a house guard of human-sized destroids protecting your property, or a fully flight-capable miniature Valkyrie as your personal courier 'bot.

The person-scaled Logan replibot was going to be fast, light, and perfect for urban dogfighting and courier duties. :D
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Re: Which book has this mecha in it?

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Thanks guys.

I’ve only ever owned the standard edition so that’s why this is new to me.
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taalismn wrote:
Warshield73 wrote:I loved that Super-Logan more than I should. I was so disappointed that I didn't get to use them when I was running Robotech that I used them in Rifts. They died so spectacularly.


One of my long-ago Rifts exercises was to create human-sized AI-drone miniatures of the Robotech mecha using roughly corresponding hums-scale weapons systems(mini-missiles or rocket-propelled grenades filling in for missile systems, submachine guns for heavy machine guns, light rail guns for gun pods, re-tasked cyborg systems for a lot of other systems, etc.). It was part of a marketing ploy by an interdimensional arms company; imagine having a house guard of human-sized destroids protecting your property, or a fully flight-capable miniature Valkyrie as your personal courier 'bot.

The person-scaled Logan replibot was going to be fast, light, and perfect for urban dogfighting and courier duties. :D

I mainly used Robotech mechs in Rifts just in the first 4 or 5 years, really until Mercenaries came out in '94, as additional mechs and aliens for Rifts. There weren't a lot of RIfts resources back then.
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taalismn wrote: It was part of a marketing ploy by an interdimensional arms company; imagine having a house guard of human-sized destroids protecting your property, or a fully flight-capable miniature Valkyrie as your personal courier 'bot.

human-sized destroids, while likely an animation error something along those lines can be seen/interpreted from the animation (See Episode "Broken Heart" IIRC, its the air base scene before Rick departs for Operation Star Saver).
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ShadowLogan wrote:
taalismn wrote: It was part of a marketing ploy by an interdimensional arms company; imagine having a house guard of human-sized destroids protecting your property, or a fully flight-capable miniature Valkyrie as your personal courier 'bot.

human-sized destroids, while likely an animation error something along those lines can be seen/interpreted from the animation (See Episode "Broken Heart" IIRC, its the air base scene before Rick departs for Operation Star Saver).


Probably leading to some perspective-based errors during field exercises....
"Blue-force destroid unit, got'em on visual...I make'em to be 3 klicks away...Come on, let's get going while they're still aways off-WHATHEHELL?!"
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Warshield73 wrote:
taalismn wrote:
Warshield73 wrote:I loved that Super-Logan more than I should. I was so disappointed that I didn't get to use them when I was running Robotech that I used them in Rifts. They died so spectacularly.


One of my long-ago Rifts exercises was to create human-sized AI-drone miniatures of the Robotech mecha using roughly corresponding hums-scale weapons systems(mini-missiles or rocket-propelled grenades filling in for missile systems, submachine guns for heavy machine guns, light rail guns for gun pods, re-tasked cyborg systems for a lot of other systems, etc.). It was part of a marketing ploy by an interdimensional arms company; imagine having a house guard of human-sized destroids protecting your property, or a fully flight-capable miniature Valkyrie as your personal courier 'bot.

The person-scaled Logan replibot was going to be fast, light, and perfect for urban dogfighting and courier duties. :D

I mainly used Robotech mechs in Rifts just in the first 4 or 5 years, really until Mercenaries came out in '94, as additional mechs and aliens for Rifts. There weren't a lot of RIfts resources back then.



:lol: :lol:
I remember those days!
And man, in the early days those RoboTech mecha blew the hell out of anything from the Rifts game!
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Fenris2020 wrote:
Warshield73 wrote:
taalismn wrote:
Warshield73 wrote:I loved that Super-Logan more than I should. I was so disappointed that I didn't get to use them when I was running Robotech that I used them in Rifts. They died so spectacularly.


One of my long-ago Rifts exercises was to create human-sized AI-drone miniatures of the Robotech mecha using roughly corresponding hums-scale weapons systems(mini-missiles or rocket-propelled grenades filling in for missile systems, submachine guns for heavy machine guns, light rail guns for gun pods, re-tasked cyborg systems for a lot of other systems, etc.). It was part of a marketing ploy by an interdimensional arms company; imagine having a house guard of human-sized destroids protecting your property, or a fully flight-capable miniature Valkyrie as your personal courier 'bot.

The person-scaled Logan replibot was going to be fast, light, and perfect for urban dogfighting and courier duties. :D

I mainly used Robotech mechs in Rifts just in the first 4 or 5 years, really until Mercenaries came out in '94, as additional mechs and aliens for Rifts. There weren't a lot of RIfts resources back then.



:lol: :lol:
I remember those days!
And man, in the early days those RoboTech mecha blew the hell out of anything from the Rifts game!

You're not kidding. For awhile 2 of my characters used 1st ed. Excalibur's / Tomahawks, 2 (the wilderness scout and city rat) used saber cyclones, and the hatchling dragon had a Biroid hover platform. This is actually what they used when they went to Africa to take on the four horsemen.
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Warshield73 wrote:
Fenris2020 wrote:
Warshield73 wrote:
taalismn wrote:
Warshield73 wrote:I loved that Super-Logan more than I should. I was so disappointed that I didn't get to use them when I was running Robotech that I used them in Rifts. They died so spectacularly.


One of my long-ago Rifts exercises was to create human-sized AI-drone miniatures of the Robotech mecha using roughly corresponding hums-scale weapons systems(mini-missiles or rocket-propelled grenades filling in for missile systems, submachine guns for heavy machine guns, light rail guns for gun pods, re-tasked cyborg systems for a lot of other systems, etc.). It was part of a marketing ploy by an interdimensional arms company; imagine having a house guard of human-sized destroids protecting your property, or a fully flight-capable miniature Valkyrie as your personal courier 'bot.

The person-scaled Logan replibot was going to be fast, light, and perfect for urban dogfighting and courier duties. :D

I mainly used Robotech mechs in Rifts just in the first 4 or 5 years, really until Mercenaries came out in '94, as additional mechs and aliens for Rifts. There weren't a lot of RIfts resources back then.


:lol: :lol:
I remember those days!
And man, in the early days those RoboTech mecha blew the hell out of anything from the Rifts game!

You're not kidding. For awhile 2 of my characters used 1st ed. Excalibur's / Tomahawks, 2 (the wilderness scout and city rat) used saber cyclones, and the hatchling dragon had a Biroid hover platform. This is actually what they used when they went to Africa to take on the four horsemen.



My went to Africa with Macross mecha of various sorts. Our GM decided that the Flower of Life grew in a remote place in southern Africa, as well as somewhere in California that we never found.
Out of my group of 7 at the time, only one was native of Rifts Earth (and that was a Great Horned hatchling).
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Fenris2020 wrote:
Warshield73 wrote:You're not kidding. For awhile 2 of my characters used 1st ed. Excalibur's / Tomahawks, 2 (the wilderness scout and city rat) used saber cyclones, and the hatchling dragon had a Biroid hover platform. This is actually what they used when they went to Africa to take on the four horsemen.



My went to Africa with Macross mecha of various sorts. Our GM decided that the Flower of Life grew in a remote place in southern Africa, as well as somewhere in California that we never found.
Out of my group of 7 at the time, only one was native of Rifts Earth (and that was a Great Horned hatchling).

Ours were all native to Rifts Earth they had simply "acquired" the mecha through various means.Most eventually traded in the RDF mechs for Triax stuff but the dragon loved that hover platform.
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Warshield73 wrote:
Fenris2020 wrote:
Warshield73 wrote:You're not kidding. For awhile 2 of my characters used 1st ed. Excalibur's / Tomahawks, 2 (the wilderness scout and city rat) used saber cyclones, and the hatchling dragon had a Biroid hover platform. This is actually what they used when they went to Africa to take on the four horsemen.



My went to Africa with Macross mecha of various sorts. Our GM decided that the Flower of Life grew in a remote place in southern Africa, as well as somewhere in California that we never found.
Out of my group of 7 at the time, only one was native of Rifts Earth (and that was a Great Horned hatchling).

Ours were all native to Rifts Earth they had simply "acquired" the mecha through various means.Most eventually traded in the RDF mechs for Triax stuff but the dragon loved that hover platform.



The funniest thing was, we ran into War first, and we really weren't used to the differences in Macross and RoboTech from Rifts. So I empty a missile payload into War, and charged up in my Super-Valkyrie and hit him with my blade a few times. Instead of the massive damage we all expected, I did... very little.
THAT'S when we knew we were in trouble...
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