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Just how powerful is Archie ?

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Just how powerful do you guys place Archie considering all his production capabilities (said to be many times higher then the coalition!) and his geo-sat .. and legion's of bots already out in the world .. and his fake company selling his lower production stuff for capital ..

Do you guys think he is one of the richer beings in North America ?

Do you guys think he is capable of taking contol of the entire north american continent ?

What about the WORLD ?

Just where do you guys place Archie ?
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I view ARCHIE as capable of capable of becoming the prominant power of north america if he could get the motivation to do something. The issue at hand though is the fact that he probably wouldn't feel a need to eliminate the coalition and Atlanits would probably put a stop to anyone making such a power grab. Thats just my opinion.
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The Galactus Kid wrote:I view ARCHIE as capable of capable of becoming the prominant power of north america if he could get the motivation to do something. The issue at hand though is the fact that he probably wouldn't feel a need to eliminate the coalition and Atlanits would probably put a stop to anyone making such a power grab. Thats just my opinion.


I'd say that he feels a need to eliminate Atlantis.
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Depends on how the Minion War goes i would say.
If Demons set up a powerful kingdom in North America Archie has compition for dominion of North America.

Come on guys its been 5 years already. Let get the rest of the Minion War already ;)
Cannot believe it was 2007 when the first Minion War book was released, wow.
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Wow on the 2007 thing... Sure doesn't seem that long.
I think Archie could most definitely conquer North America easily enough but I think he would be quite out of luck with the rest of the world.
One thing that would confuse me on the issue is though, I can't imagine why he would want to conquer anything (other than Atlantis, which he is incapable of).
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I believe the reason the minion war is takin so long is due to Palladium's slow gradual death .. the company appear's to be die'ing the slow death .. and as the books come out later an later .. with more an more real life issues coming between the book release dates an what should have been's .. its only a matter of time in my personal opinion. Not that I am rooting for that .. I hope there is some way to not only stall but reverse it, as if Palladium goes .. so too does my last real pleasure of a hobby ..

Back to Archie .. I personally think no power on north america can singularly handle Archie , and I think it would take a mix of three or more of its most powerful powerblocks to stop him, or 1 atlantis .. After everything he has at his disposal , I'm willing to bet Archie has enough U-creds to literally purchase every single merc outfit in N.A. and keep them on retainer for decades if needs be .. thanks to his production needing zero expenses .. his shipments needing zero expenses .. all his sales are plane flat out profit .. heck the guy even has entire legions of bots .. searching an setting up mini bases around new resources for decades into the future when he is himself running low on resources (literally decades from now tho).

All in all I think Archie could literally cause world war 3 up in North America .. simply by using his profit to buy up all merc units .. and unleashing them on his targets .. and no one would even know who sent them or why .. only that they would be an all merc military and some one with deep pocket's would be the one running the show ..
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Thing is Archie doesn't want to "Take out" the humans.

He very much does want to take out Atlantis.

But he's smart, and realizes he needs to get more info, if he moves too soon, the world becomes aware of him and they might unite against him in fear. So he's playing a balancing act right now.

The thing with Atlantis is.... it's there.. but it's nnot all off the forces at that command. They have enough to hold.. what was it 6 more planets? So anyone taking out Atlantis.... well. That's a tricky one. You'd have to some how take out the Head Splooge, with out him just dimensionally teleporting away, AND you'd have to blow up alllll the things that would allow others to teleport IN to help defend atlantis....

Both those things at the same time....

Then you'd have to take out the entire continent. And all the transient population from the megaverse that's there at any point in any given day.

THAT.... with the stats we have..... is pretty impossible. If the splooge takes anything remotely close to the amount of damage needed to kill him. He'll just leave.... and hitting all the other stuff simultaneously... well.. wow.
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Bad Mojo wrote:I really like how archie shadow plays everything. He is probably one of the most powerful power blocks around and nobody even knows he is there! It would be nice to see him (or any other power block) actually DO something with all that power he has at his disposal.


Well, he's getting a start with the Shemarrian Nation.
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Bad Mojo wrote:I really like how archie shadow plays everything. He is probably one of the most powerful power blocks around and nobody even knows he is there! It would be nice to see him (or any other power block) actually DO something with all that power he has at his disposal.

Thats the reason I see him very highly hire'ing all the merc's .. from his Titan outfites .. and using them in any military campaign rather then using his actual own resources until absolutely needed and or warrented .. unless he can make a super fast lightning quick military tactical strike using very limited archie bots ..
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He's not powerful in the brute force kind of sense. Rather, he's kind of like a robot Moriarty with a crap ton of minions running all over the place. I'm surprised Archie hasn't developed small robotic spider pods armed with exploding poison blow darts and have them run around in the burbs and the Chi Town Air Ducts. I mean, think of the possibilities! :shock:
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According to AFTERMATH (I think its in) A3 is the world's leading expert on CS tactics because he sees them as his largest obstacle. If A3 can replace Prosek with a replica then he safely start replacing the cabinet and key military generals and could utilize the Coalition in a way that that no one thought possible. If he is able to do that then it is only a hop skip and a jump before Proseks revolutionary turn around in policy and generosity wins him back Free Qubec and maybe a couple of other world powers to form a new allied nation that focused on their common history rather than their differences. Once this has been achieved and the human livestock are secured its only a matter of time before he has to hoax or provoke a 911 style attack from Atlantis so the humans think they want the war.

Then its just a matter of showing that writhing cyclops Splynncryth who is the really the most intelligent being on Rifts Earth!

Then with the Atlantean economy under A3's control... nothing could stop him!


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Killer Cyborg wrote:
The Galactus Kid wrote:I view ARCHIE as capable of capable of becoming the prominant power of north america if he could get the motivation to do something. The issue at hand though is the fact that he probably wouldn't feel a need to eliminate the coalition and Atlanits would probably put a stop to anyone making such a power grab. Thats just my opinion.


I'd say that he feels a need to eliminate Atlantis.

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I love you Akashic Soldier. As a stupid little project I've been trying to give everything in Rifts a theme song and it's never even occurred to me to use that one. Archie gets FIF :)

More on topic though, I'd say that Archie could take out any single power on Rifts Earth with the exception of Atlantis or anything overseas. The reason I say overseas is due to the difficulty of waging a war without any sort of base of operation and considering as the seas are a problem to cross especially in large numbers.

If they were all just next door though... everything but Atlantis.
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SkyeFyre wrote:I love you Akashic Soldier. As a stupid little project I've been trying to give everything in Rifts a theme song and it's never even occurred to me to use that one. Archie gets FIF :)

More on topic though, I'd say that Archie could take out any single power on Rifts Earth with the exception of Atlantis or anything overseas. The reason I say overseas is due to the difficulty of waging a war without any sort of base of operation and considering as the seas are a problem to cross especially in large numbers.

If they were all just next door though... everything but Atlantis.


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Akashic Soldier wrote:
SkyeFyre wrote:I love you Akashic Soldier. As a stupid little project I've been trying to give everything in Rifts a theme song and it's never even occurred to me to use that one. Archie gets FIF :)

More on topic though, I'd say that Archie could take out any single power on Rifts Earth with the exception of Atlantis or anything overseas. The reason I say overseas is due to the difficulty of waging a war without any sort of base of operation and considering as the seas are a problem to cross especially in large numbers.

If they were all just next door though... everything but Atlantis.


The fact you even know who Five Iron Frenzy are means you are added to my list of awesome people too brotha! :)

Keep on rockin'


Do I get extra awesome points if I say I'm also a fan of Brave Saint Saturn? :P
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Isn't the main rival of ARCHIE 3 the Post Rift Republicans (on Rifts Earth).????
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Kovoston wrote:Isn't the main rival of ARCHIE 3 the Post Rift Republicans (on Rifts Earth).????

Yeah, which to be honest, isn't that much of a rival.
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SkyeFyre wrote:
Kovoston wrote:Isn't the main rival of ARCHIE 3 the Post Rift Republicans (on Rifts Earth).????

Yeah, which to be honest, isn't that much of a rival.


But more of a rival than the Post Rift Democrats :x

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while Archie is powerful, he is limited by his "idea man" aka Hagan
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Mech-Viper Prime wrote:while Archie is powerful, he is limited by his "idea man" aka Hagan

Hagan is his in game limit ..

Outside of that .. Archie has no limit .. and is clearly stated out in his books among other's as being one of thee most powerful in north america ..
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