Well, the cat is out of the bag for who is writing the D-Bee book, and now you can probably see why Jason wanted you guys to guess.
From the July 3th Press Release, bolded for emphasis.
Rifts® D-Bees of North America™ A dozen freelancers have chipped in to create a book with 30+ new D-Bees along with updated stats and information on 60+ D-Bees of North America collected from other World Books.
This will be a handy reference for players (especially those looking to play a particular D-Bee) and Game Masters.
* 100 D-Bees; thirty-some new. All native to North America. Completely statted out and updated. * Artwork by Perez and others. * Cover painting by David Martin. * Written by Kevin Siembieda and others. * 192 pages – Cat. No. 871 – $22.95 retail. * Anticipated release date: Fall, 2006, or Early 2007.
What twelve freelancers is it though?...Wait nevermind...there is only like a dozen or so...
hey josh, are you going to go into how many attacks per round a Lynn Syral gets in a round? Or go into more depth on the Ugakwa explorers? I'd love to know why a race with supernatural strength needs mechanical leg braces.
"If a child shows a particular abundance of pity for fools or an overwhelming disdain for jibber jabber he is plucked from his family and raised by monks in the T-emple."
rat_bastard wrote:hey josh, are you going to go into how many attacks per round a Lynn Syral gets in a round? Or go into more depth on the Ugakwa explorers? I'd love to know why a race with supernatural strength needs mechanical leg braces.
The Lynn Syral? Maybe, I'm not incharge of compiling that one.
The Ugakwa? No. It's D-Bees of North America. The Ugakwa are a European D-Bee.
Josh Sinsapaugh wrote:The Ugakwa? No. It's D-Bees of North America. The Ugakwa are a European D-Bee.
~ Josh
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I want the Ugakwa fleshed out dammit! like a page more for gods sakes MOVE THEIR POLIO-RIDDEN ASSES TO NEW JERSEY IF YOU HAVE TO!
"If a child shows a particular abundance of pity for fools or an overwhelming disdain for jibber jabber he is plucked from his family and raised by monks in the T-emple."
* 100 D-Bees; thirty-some new. All native to North America. Completely statted out and updated.
False. By definition, if it's a D-bee, it cannot be native to North America.
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* 100 D-Bees; thirty-some new. All native to North America. Completely statted out and updated.
False. By definition, if it's a D-bee, it cannot be native to North America.
D-Bees born in North America are still considered D-Bees.
Yes. but they are not NATIVE to north america. any more than I am, dispite being of american-born european decent.
Though I do have a couple of great grandmothers on both sides of my family who were Native American.
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You can have something done good, fast and cheap. If you want it done good and fast, it's not going to be cheap. If you want it done fast and cheap it won't be good. If you want something done good and cheap it won't be done fast. ~ Dark Brandon
* 100 D-Bees; thirty-some new. All native to North America. Completely statted out and updated.
False. By definition, if it's a D-bee, it cannot be native to North America.
D-Bees born in North America are still considered D-Bees.
Yes. but they are not NATIVE to north america. any more than I am, dispite being of american-born european decent.
Though I do have a couple of great grandmothers on both sides of my family who were Native American.
COOL!! you can open a casino!!
"If a child shows a particular abundance of pity for fools or an overwhelming disdain for jibber jabber he is plucked from his family and raised by monks in the T-emple."
* 100 D-Bees; thirty-some new. All native to North America. Completely statted out and updated.
False. By definition, if it's a D-bee, it cannot be native to North America.
D-Bees born in North America are still considered D-Bees.
Yes. but they are not NATIVE to north america. any more than I am, dispite being of american-born european decent.
Though I do have a couple of great grandmothers on both sides of my family who were Native American.
COOL!! you can open a casino!!
I could anyway
I look completely European, except for a very slight tint to my skin.
Sometimes, you're like a beacon of light in the darkness, giving me some hope for humankind. ~ Killer Cyborg
You can have something done good, fast and cheap. If you want it done good and fast, it's not going to be cheap. If you want it done fast and cheap it won't be good. If you want something done good and cheap it won't be done fast. ~ Dark Brandon
* 100 D-Bees; thirty-some new. All native to North America. Completely statted out and updated.
False. By definition, if it's a D-bee, it cannot be native to North America.
D-Bees born in North America are still considered D-Bees.
Yes. but they are not NATIVE to north america. any more than I am, dispite being of american-born european decent.
Though I do have a couple of great grandmothers on both sides of my family who were Native American.
Via your definition then a "Native American" isn't a native to North America because they were originally migrants from Eurasia.
~ Josh
Quite true. Of course, it still dosn't make my point wrong.
Sometimes, you're like a beacon of light in the darkness, giving me some hope for humankind. ~ Killer Cyborg
You can have something done good, fast and cheap. If you want it done good and fast, it's not going to be cheap. If you want it done fast and cheap it won't be good. If you want something done good and cheap it won't be done fast. ~ Dark Brandon
Actually, by my opinion only of course, I believe I am 100% American do the fact that I cannot possibly track down all the different countries my ancestors came from. I know of 3 for sure, but that doesn't mean I can say I'm native to one of those three...
Besides, how many beings are classified as D-Bee's just because they do not look 100% human? Could they be a race of mutated humans that have been around since the coming of the rifts?
Though I do agree that the book couldn't possibly be full of those type. Therefore, they should change the description to say: All Found in North America.
Nekira Sudacne wrote:Quite true. Of course, it still dosn't make my point wrong.
It does show how your point is just semantics though.
"Please get on the plane, sir."
"I'll get in the plane, but not on it. If I get on the plane I may die."
"You know what I mean, sir."
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I never claimed for it to be anything but
Sometimes, you're like a beacon of light in the darkness, giving me some hope for humankind. ~ Killer Cyborg
You can have something done good, fast and cheap. If you want it done good and fast, it's not going to be cheap. If you want it done fast and cheap it won't be good. If you want something done good and cheap it won't be done fast. ~ Dark Brandon
Nekira Sudacne wrote:Quite true. Of course, it still dosn't make my point wrong.
It does show how your point is just semantics though.
"Please get on the plane, sir."
"I'll get in the plane, but not on it. If I get on the plane I may die."
"You know what I mean, sir."
~ Josh
I never claimed for it to be anything but
Nekira, did you ever attend law school?
No, but I played D&D with a DM who didn't belive in houserules. That's about the same.
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Marrowlite wrote:Rat-bastard makes a good point, why not include all dee-bees under one book? And the Ugakwa Explorer should be fleshed out a little more.
Yeah marrowlite, good point I agree totally.
"If a child shows a particular abundance of pity for fools or an overwhelming disdain for jibber jabber he is plucked from his family and raised by monks in the T-emple."
Comment: Listen very carefully, human...the fact that I even allow you to speak directly to me is a gift I bestow upon you. You do not order me. You beg for my appreciation and then wait to see if I choose to bestow it upon you.
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Marrowlite wrote:Rat-bastard makes a good point, why not include all dee-bees under one book? And the Ugakwa Explorer should be fleshed out a little more.
Yeah marrowlite, good point I agree totally.
Really, who is this Marrowlite person?
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Marrowlite wrote:Rat-bastard makes a good point, why not include all dee-bees under one book? And the Ugakwa Explorer should be fleshed out a little more.
Yeah marrowlite, good point I agree totally.
I have Rat-bastard agreeing with me, I am in bliss I can die happy now!
woah, cool your jets marrow, no need to get excited
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"If a child shows a particular abundance of pity for fools or an overwhelming disdain for jibber jabber he is plucked from his family and raised by monks in the T-emple."
* 100 D-Bees; thirty-some new. All native to North America. Completely statted out and updated. * Artwork by Perez and others. * Cover painting by David Martin. * Written by Kevin Siembieda and others. * 192 pages – Cat. No. 871 – $22.95 retail. * Anticipated release date: Fall, 2006, or Early 2007.
"If a child shows a particular abundance of pity for fools or an overwhelming disdain for jibber jabber he is plucked from his family and raised by monks in the T-emple."
Marrowlite wrote:Rat-bastard makes a good point, why not include all dee-bees under one book? And the Ugakwa Explorer should be fleshed out a little more.
Yeah marrowlite, good point I agree totally.
Really, who is this Marrowlite person?
It's Marrow-lite, with 1/2 the calories of the original.
Marrowlite wrote:Rat-bastard makes a good point, why not include all dee-bees under one book? And the Ugakwa Explorer should be fleshed out a little more.
Yeah marrowlite, good point I agree totally.
Because, if you did that then D-Bees from Europe, China, India, Australia, Russia, Africa and everywhere else would be left severely, severely lacking.
Hopefully, there will be other "D-Bees of X" books.
Comment: Listen very carefully, human...the fact that I even allow you to speak directly to me is a gift I bestow upon you. You do not order me. You beg for my appreciation and then wait to see if I choose to bestow it upon you.
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Marrowlight wrote:Since rat's been so nice to speak for me, I think I'll speak for myself now.
Good idea, I hope it goes better than ICE's races and creatures line (where they got the first book out and then the company fizzled like whoa)
aHEM, I was agreeing with marrow-LITE, not some cheap knock off!
"If a child shows a particular abundance of pity for fools or an overwhelming disdain for jibber jabber he is plucked from his family and raised by monks in the T-emple."
Josh Sinsapaugh wrote:Well, the cat is out of the bag for who is writing the D-Bee book, and now you can probably see why Jason wanted you guys to guess.
From the July 3th Press Release, bolded for emphasis.
Rifts® D-Bees of North America™ A dozen freelancers have chipped in to create a book with 30+ new D-Bees along with updated stats and information on 60+ D-Bees of North America collected from other World Books.
This will be a handy reference for players (especially those looking to play a particular D-Bee) and Game Masters.
* 100 D-Bees; thirty-some new. All native to North America. Completely statted out and updated. * Artwork by Perez and others. * Cover painting by David Martin. * Written by Kevin Siembieda and others. * 192 pages – Cat. No. 871 – $22.95 retail. * Anticipated release date: Fall, 2006, or Early 2007.
What twelve freelancers is it though?...Wait nevermind...there is only like a dozen or so...
~ Josh
So basically besides the new 30+ DB's this book is going to be a huge copy paste project with some new artwork.
Josh Sinsapaugh wrote:Well, the cat is out of the bag for who is writing the D-Bee book, and now you can probably see why Jason wanted you guys to guess.
From the July 3th Press Release, bolded for emphasis.
Rifts® D-Bees of North America™ A dozen freelancers have chipped in to create a book with 30+ new D-Bees along with updated stats and information on 60+ D-Bees of North America collected from other World Books.
This will be a handy reference for players (especially those looking to play a particular D-Bee) and Game Masters.
* 100 D-Bees; thirty-some new. All native to North America. Completely statted out and updated. * Artwork by Perez and others. * Cover painting by David Martin. * Written by Kevin Siembieda and others. * 192 pages – Cat. No. 871 – $22.95 retail. * Anticipated release date: Fall, 2006, or Early 2007.
What twelve freelancers is it though?...Wait nevermind...there is only like a dozen or so...
~ Josh
So basically besides the new 30+ DB's this book is going to be a huge copy paste project with some new artwork.
It would be a book in the same token as the Book of Magic, a handy sourcebook.
Comment: Listen very carefully, human...the fact that I even allow you to speak directly to me is a gift I bestow upon you. You do not order me. You beg for my appreciation and then wait to see if I choose to bestow it upon you.
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Marrowlight wrote:We're going to blink one day and be hip deep in a RUE'ized Rifts, I swear.
Marrowlight, Rifts is RUEized.
Unless you mean that every world book and sourcebook will have an RUE edition, and that's a no. New printings might get tweaked slightly (perception bonues and skill selection etc.), but no there won't be RUE editions of everything.
Comment: Listen very carefully, human...the fact that I even allow you to speak directly to me is a gift I bestow upon you. You do not order me. You beg for my appreciation and then wait to see if I choose to bestow it upon you.
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Marrowlight wrote:We're going to blink one day and be hip deep in a RUE'ized Rifts, I swear.
Marrowlight, Rifts is RUEized.
Unless you mean that every world book and sourcebook will have an RUE edition, and that's a no. New printings might get tweaked slightly (perception bonues and skill selection etc.), but no there won't be RUE editions of everything.
~ Josh
Every worldbook and sourcebook, maybe not. But this is going to cut a serious chunk of the necessary updated material just with this book alone.
What does it matter if New West hasn't been released as RUE if all the stuff in it that needed to be updated has been done in compilation books? But the pill of updating is lessened by adding "new content" along with the updating.
Don't get me wrong, I'll probably get the book - I like the concept of New D-Bees and your Rifter artcile had some fun ones....it just triggers some creepy senses in the retail/marketing side of my brain.
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argos wrote:Updated versions of D-Bees could mean anything. The Cyber Knights got updated and look at them now.
yeah I gotta say the psi-pom poms are a bit much but I love those short skirts!
"If a child shows a particular abundance of pity for fools or an overwhelming disdain for jibber jabber he is plucked from his family and raised by monks in the T-emple."
LDMcFear™ wrote:So basically besides the new 30+ DB's this book is going to be a huge copy paste project with some new artwork.
Dude. It's a Palladium project. I'm almost willing to swear that KS invented the time machine just so he could copy & paste into the first book he ever published.
So wait... are people complaining that we're writing a book that updates and standardizes playable character races, and that only 60-75 printed pages or are brand-spanking new?
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Jason Richards wrote:So wait... are people complaining that we're writing a book that updates and standardizes playable character races, and that only 60-75 printed pages or are brand-spanking new?
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Andor wrote:For anyone else not to have their fans abandon them wholesale the only time the are allowed to repint material as a majority of a new product is when a whole new edition comes out as a major update of the system.
You mean like that lil "Rifts: Ultimate Edition" that came out a while ago?
Shock and amaze!
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Sir Ysbadden wrote: So what is wrong with compileing and updating all the D-Bee's in North America?
Despite the grief I gave Jason earlier, nothing really. There are few things I hate as much in the world of gaming as having to bring one more book because it has a single race in it and nothing else I use.
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Sir Ysbadden wrote: So what is wrong with compileing and updating all the D-Bee's in North America?
Despite the grief I gave Jason earlier, nothing really. There are few things I hate as much in the world of gaming as having to bring one more book because it has a single race in it and nothing else I use.
But this will have 30+ so it is good and it updates
Right...let me restate.
Say I've got a player who's playing a race from Rifts Canada, and only from Rifts Canada, that got sent to phase world. I now have to bring Rifts Canada if I want to look up anything on that player's race -- even if I have no other need for it.
Have four or five players all doing that, and that's a lot of extra books just for a page of material.
Having it all in one book is cool, makes life a lot easier.
Soon I Shall Bring Forth A New Beginning, And All Shall Be Made Mighty At The Touch Of My Hand
Petty tyrants thrive when they have authority backed by vague regulations.
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Sir Ysbadden wrote: So what is wrong with compileing and updating all the D-Bee's in North America?
Despite the grief I gave Jason earlier, nothing really. There are few things I hate as much in the world of gaming as having to bring one more book because it has a single race in it and nothing else I use.
But this will have 30+ so it is good and it updates
Right...let me restate.
Say I've got a player who's playing a race from Rifts Canada, and only from Rifts Canada, that got sent to phase world. I now have to bring Rifts Canada if I want to look up anything on that player's race -- even if I have no other need for it.
Have four or five players all doing that, and that's a lot of extra books just for a page of material.
Having it all in one book is cool, makes life a lot easier.
So were all on the same page after all.
Yup, not my fault you didn't realize that in the first place.
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Petty tyrants thrive when they have authority backed by vague regulations.
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