Why do some of you think the RPG says 1 MAsters mothership?

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I agree that there was more than 1 RM Mothership. I think the confusion arises from the fact that the RPG never specifies how many more than one there are was in orbit of Earth. I've always used three, to give a further reinforcement of the Triumvirate, but Rapid and Col. Wolfe have said there's about a dozen (and since they're much bigger SC fans than I, I take them at their word).
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I've always thought that there was more than one in the RPG. Invid Invasion states 'a mother ship crashed in indochina with survivors blah blah', meaning one of many.

I also can't quite believe that people think the RPG states only one.
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Basara_549 wrote:I've seen this in a few posts, and it boggles the mind. The description in the RPG says no such thing.


Yes, it does seem to be a disease of the mind on this board about what the RPG says and doesn't say. Alot of it, of course, is contamination from the novels..... :badbad: :frust: :frust: :frust: :frust: :frust: :frust:
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Yeah, the rpg never actually says there's only one, it just doesn't say how many there are. There are times quite a few can be seen onscreen at the same time in the show. Hell, there were three confirmed kills: Carpenter's ship impales and destroys the first one. Emerson's ship does the same for the second. (which, ship for ship, would probably have been a more cost-effective if cold-blooded battle-tactic than actually trying for capitol ship slugging-matches) Zor Prime gets the lead mothership which housed the actual Masters; number three (that darn number...). So including any survivors drives up the total past three....me personally, i'd say go with multiples of three. This is the Masters we're talking about, after all :-D
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3 times 3 = 9.

or 3 times itself 3 times = 27
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Actually.....the UES Tristar didn't get a kill. It did, however, help to widen a big opening in the Masters' flagship into a massive gaping wound courtesy of ramming. It was the 15th ATAC with the help of Musica (who told them where the shield generators were) and Zor Prime (who kept the Masters simply turning the shields back on) that bagged another of the Masters ships.
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Emerson rammed one in the blockade run to Moon base and then he impaled one just before Marie Crystal and Lt. Black (you know Nova's heart throb) saved his life. So at least 3 ships were destroyed.
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Wildfire wrote:Emerson rammed one in the blockade run to Moon base and then he impaled one just before Marie Crystal and Lt. Black (you know Nova's heart throb) saved his life. So at least 3 ships were destroyed.


Well, first, its Lt. Brown and second, just double checked the scene from The Invid Connection. Again, the UES Tristar does NOT destroy one of the Masters city-ships when her reflex furnaces detonate. Its possible that she simply lacks the mass necessary to initiate such a catastrophic overload. Its probable that her destruction was on the order of some 10MT whereas the UES Hannibal was more like on the order of 40MT or more.

However I will concede that the ship the Tristar rammed into most certainly was crippled from the blast. It ultimately served the purpose of effectively knocking that ship out of the war, possibly for good.
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there are indeed more...the REF field guide mentions 1 as does the The sentinals book...

So I finde it hard to believe the ENTIRE Robotech masters fleet went to earth.

as for the ships the Robotech masters use there are few...the Carrier and Robotech factaries appear to be the main ships they use as they do everything they need.
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Hate to correct you a few other guides mention rogues and they had ships, Also there is an Aliens style/vampire story in The REF field guide.

It would be folly to send the ENTIRE fleet. they probably sent what was need to conquer the place and hold it. the Master would never put all there eggs in one basket...they are/were survivalist and very Machiavellian.

so we're talking about the bulk say 70-80%...
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It's fairly clear in the RPG they would have rogue Masters like 'Zin' Also the Factories still have a supply...

all I'm saying is there a few, not a lot. A dozen or less mother ships are outside of the fleet..in short not enough to be a concern to the fleet with it's troubles at the the time.

those like good ole "Zin" have there own plans...as in they oppse Nimuel and the the three main leaders...at least we're when Zor was around.

The flower also grows on other planets..just not well or as good as they'd like. so I can see a plotter going "Up yours Nimuel and leaving with his little group to a planet the grows the flower..instead heading for earth and dealing with the humans. more viable since the Masters know the the SDF went there the invid would have as well.

Like I said though, this an RPG perspective...but also makes sense.

I'll tell you what I others NEVER assume ANYTHING is entirely correct...even if they say it. If they we're to make another Robotech cartoon you would see the situstion I describe above as part of the plot.
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On an aside, but somewhat related, note...
Wasn't there an even older looking set of Masters than the one's that assualt Glory/Earth in the SC series, that they refer to as "elders"?
What happened to those guys?
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Yes, the Robotech Elders. They were not apparently physically present in Robotech, unless you believe they were Zentraedi. They apparently have their own forces/fleet of ships and mecha. Or at least that is the guess. They were likely off fighting the Disciples of Zor.
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They were likely off fighting the Disciples of Zor.

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From the show, I thought they were referring to humanity as 'the Disciples of Zor'...
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Okay, I'm sort of new to the SC...I read the RPG guide and Sentinals. So I admit I go off what seems logical or likely based releasablity...

The Emulator's in the MAcross II RPG are the triplets with the harp...So who would be Lord Emperor En-goose (Spell as it sounds) be in robotech or was that a an element made the macross II game?
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I guess it makes sense no singal robotech master that powerful could live long...
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ok for one thing..
it's noT ROUGE
ROUGE IS A COLOR, that RESEMBLES RED, Rouge is pronounced Rooj
ROGUE is What a THEIF/rebel is!, Rogue is pronounced R-O-G h (O is as in Toe) , Gh as in (Ghost)

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Furthermore , Emperor Ingus is the RT Equivalent of Dolza, Not the Masters


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Cool, thanks for clearing that up, Gomen.
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Gomen_Nagai wrote:ok for one thing..
it's noT ROUGE
ROUGE IS A COLOR, that RESEMBLES RED, Rouge is pronounced Rooj
ROGUE is What a THEIF/rebel is!, Rogue is pronounced R-O-G h (O is as in Toe) , Gh as in (Ghost)

Phoboskitty, Learn to stop Typing Rouge, this isn't the ol'south!


Furthermore , Emperor Ingus is the RT Equivalent of Dolza, Not the Masters


Macross II Storyline follows the Movies of Robotech, Not the Series.
(robotech: Do you remember love, and Flashback 2012)


Macross II has nothing to do with Robotech but follows the Macross movie which is called Macross: Do You Remember Love.
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