Corsarius wrote:Hey! You keep away from my woman!
*climbs into Soldati mecha ready to do battle*
Oh, and I know JUST the picture Raiden means..... hubba hubba.
*climbs into Excalibur mecha* ok....but it's your funeral pal
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Shin Kenshiro wrote:Corsarius wrote:Hey! You keep away from my woman!
*climbs into Soldati mecha ready to do battle*
Oh, and I know JUST the picture Raiden means..... hubba hubba.
*climbs into Excalibur mecha* ok....but it's your funeral pal
Shin Kenshiro wrote:Corsarius wrote:Hey! You keep away from my woman!
*climbs into Soldati mecha ready to do battle*
Oh, and I know JUST the picture Raiden means..... hubba hubba.
*climbs into Excalibur mecha* ok....but it's your funeral pal
Corsarius wrote:
Shall we fight in, say, a Genesis pit? (warms up fusion reactor and buckles on tele-mental helmet).
Colonel Wolfe wrote:Corsarius wrote:
Shall we fight in, say, a Genesis pit? (warms up fusion reactor and buckles on tele-mental helmet).
Ahh, the gay old Thinking cap Idea fomr the novels... glad that will die with them.
Lt. Holmes wrote:Colonel Wolfe wrote:Corsarius wrote:
Shall we fight in, say, a Genesis pit? (warms up fusion reactor and buckles on tele-mental helmet).
Ahh, the gay old Thinking cap Idea fomr the novels... glad that will die with them.
Actually, the tele-mental helmet is from the RPG, and it helped to explain why the EBSIS mecha could have some of the same agility of RDF mecha, because the EBSIS mecha (usually) isn't PC-powered.
Angryjack wrote:After that, CLaudia grant ( the only surviving member of the SDF Crew besides Hayes)
Corsarius wrote:I don't know why I'm even botherng to respond here, but my preciousssss (ahem) EBSIS has been slighted.
Wolfe, I'm not sure if the novels came before or after the RPG, but my bet where KS and Palladium got the idea for the 'Tele-Mental' helmet (please note, it's not called a thinking cap), would be that it comes from a book called 'Firefox' by Craig Thomas, first printed in 1977 by Michael Joseph Ltd. Please go get yourself a copy. Two points are in this favour:
1) The firefox is Russian, and so is the Soviet mecha
2) The Firefox uses a 'neural' helmet, which sounds similar to the 'tele-mental helmet' of the RPG (and also the neurohelm of Battletech, which likely also sourced it's ideas from Thomas).
Remember also that the EBSIS is a creation of, and exists only in, the RPG and is not a recognised part of the Robotech universe at large, however the man-machine interface between protoculture and machine IS, so by denying it, you are in essence denying you like robotech!
I'd also say that the Tele-mental helmet is probably not gay unless it is painted hot pink and covered in sequins.
Thank you all for listening. We now return you to your regular programming..... and I'll still give my vote to the Regis, because she's still my choice of Robotech Gal.
Colonel Wolfe wrote:Graphic Novel by Comico 1986 predates or Conicides the Robotehc RPG book. The GN is considred Secondary continuity, and will not be used a a primary Source for any further Robotech Cevlopment. The Jack Mckinney Novels use this as a Basis. The Novels follow up with the majority being published in 1987.
Cripes, this 'quote, unquote' is going to be a real problem...
Perhaps they do, but perhaps the original idea came from Firefox, which is the earliest source I can find of such a thing. Certainly it predates all of your sources. My imagination was fired the first time I read it, and I am re-reading my copy of it right now (I dragged it off the bookshelf to get the date of original publication).Man, you must think i'm a Moron
I'm sorry. That's an EBSIS state secret and we cannot respond to this statement.I know the Ebsis was a RPG invention. The Man-Machine link is not a Part of the Robotech Universe, it is part of the Secondary continuity establied by the RPG, Novels and Graphic Novel, All of Which are Secondary Continuity items. But Dont Insult me and make claims that i deny Robotech because i deny a pert of Robotech thats not In the Series Animation and only come from Secondary sources.
I know your attitude towards the forums here, but please respect that there are those here who just enjoy the TV show and the RPG. I source all my materials from just those two, and no others. I am not a member of robotech.com or any other robotech related site. I'm here because I love the game, and I love chatting with others who likewise are 'protoculture addicts' who enjoy the RPG.Are you sure the Regis is even Female? she appears as a blob on energy for 1/2 the show.. He' mostlikely a Trans-Dimnesional Cross-Dresser.
Corsarius wrote:Come to think of it though, would you class any protoplasmic blob as female or male? It could be either, it could be both. I'm here to tell you, though, that the Regis is all woman.
Raiden wrote:I'd have to say Lisa Hayse. Check out the cover of issue 4 or 5 of the "Robotech: Invasion" comic. (You'll know which one I mean when you see the cover
Lt. Holmes wrote:Yeah... all 10 feet of her. Not to mention the lack of legs. I'd strongly advise you NOT **** her off, since you're liable to find youself in a Genisis Pit experiment...
Now then, enough of all this idle chatter. I want my Soldati vs Ecal match, dammit!
Corsarius wrote:Lt. Holmes wrote:Yeah... all 10 feet of her. Not to mention the lack of legs. I'd strongly advise you NOT **** her off, since you're liable to find youself in a Genisis Pit experiment...
Now then, enough of all this idle chatter. I want my Soldati vs Ecal match, dammit!
Let's try 6 feet, shall we (check her stats in the Invid Invasion book)? And she has some damn fine legs under those heavy robes. In fact, some days that's all she wears to work, you know.
and its a bad angle, but she is WAY taller then Team Bernard: http://www.robotech.com/images/content/EPS_97_6_4623.jpg
Corsarius wrote:[quote="Colonel Wolfe']
Hey, you ever seen a bad hair day when she don't have any hair? That's what you get.
Otherwise..... What Zerebus said..
Besides, I happen to know what's under those robes, so you just go on thinking what you want, but it's one less in the way of competition for me...and its a bad angle, but she is WAY taller then Team Bernard: http://www.robotech.com/images/content/EPS_97_6_4623.jpg
well, going from this picture there is one of two options:
1) She is using Levitation in the same manner as the Robotech Masters: For no real reason at all apart from looking cool (she does that some nights, too)
2) She is standing on a raised plinth, as befits a god-like being when addressing mortals.
Dude, the stats say 6 feet and female, and even your precious RT.com states she is all woman. Get over it.
Corsarius wrote:Hecklers please feel free to engage in constructive criticism. I'm no Taffy, but I have worked with him on TASW, especially some aspects of the EBSIS mecha (for those that remember my short series of complementary lectures in the various TASW threads) and tactics.
but honour insists that I must do this (after all, being aberrant, the Regis admires honour and courage). We'll start this in a Genesis pit. Lots of jungle environment to negate those fancy sensors of yours
your lack of gripping appendages will hinder you
To summ up, you are well-armed and armoured, but slow and unmanoeverable.
Besides, it's not possible.
She'd never leave Fred, and we know it.
Corsarius wrote:Suits me, I guess (gulp). I have a total and complete idea of my chances against an excal, btw, but honour insists that I must do this (after all, being aberrant, the Regis admires honour and courage). We'll start this in a Genesis pit. Lots of jungle environment to negate those fancy sensors of yours (see ROTM for details), your lack of gripping appendages will hinder you, and your large size telegraphs your movement. Your medium-range missiles are pretty much negated in this kind of combat arena, although your short-range capacity remains fearsome. To summ up, you are well-armed and armoured, but slow and unmanoeverable. The Soldati is faster and jump-capable, and can also utilise underwater combat to it's advantage. It is also much smaller than the Excal. Having said that, engagements with a single soldati would be 'death of a thousand cuts', as the lower armour would negate a frontal assault. My tactics will be to set up a blind of some sort and engage from another direction, targeting sensors and weapons first with one or two shots, then retreating quickly back into the jungle or underwater, where missiles and beam weapons are less effective (I am aware of the TZ-IV clusters, though, and those have to go!).
Hecklers please feel free to engage in constructive criticism. I'm no Taffy, but I have worked with him on TASW, especially some aspects of the EBSIS mecha (for those that remember my short series of complementary lectures in the various TASW threads) and tactics.
Corsarius wrote:Cool pics to back your argument, though.
Let's just say that she can go up and down in size at will, or she's standing on stilts like those people in parades, or something, okay? You like one set of stats, I like another.
Angryjack wrote:the Regis is a shape shifter and can change her size at will.
Zerebus wrote:Colonel Wolfe wrote:Angryjack wrote:the Regis is a shape shifter and can change her size at will.
yes, but not by the RPG, it Lists her Height at 6ft, and never mentions any ability to Shape Change.
It also says a volley of four or more missiles will always hit their mark. So what.
Angryjack wrote:Colonel Wolfe wrote:Angryjack wrote:the Regis is a shape shifter and can change her size at will.
yes, but not by the RPG, it Lists her Height at 6ft, and never mentions any ability to Shape Change.
They don't mention it in Invid Invasion ( oversight by KS )
THEY DO mention it in the REF Field Guide.
Heck you love harping on the RPG but apparently you never read all the RPG material ...
RDF Manual, RDF Accelerated Training Program, Zentraedi Break out, Strike Force, that book on Africa... etc etc etc...
Zerebus wrote:"it" = her shapeshifting ability, from the context of Angryjack's post.
Zerebus wrote:Colonel Wolfe wrote:Zerebus wrote:"it" = her shapeshifting ability, from the context of Angryjack's post.
Still not a Listed power for her in Invid Invasion.
Which is what he said. Which is what I was indirectly pointing out. Your reply to him was somewhat comical in that light. That's all.
Zerebus wrote:Yes, and the Rifts Dimension Books aren't supposed to be connected to Rifts Earth, nor Ninjas and Superspies to Heroes Unlimited...
The point being that they are anyway.
CJH wrote:and as for her splitting herself? ewwwwww.... she did that once before and produced the regent. Who the heck is going to date him? Keep out of my fantasy you pansexual pervert! (lol)
I meant INTENTIONALLY splitting herself...and into identical versons of herself...
YOU were the one who thought of the Regent....
I have led my people in fight from the dark tide of shadow that engulfed our forefathers, that threatens to engulf us even now"
We called together all our people scattered through galaxies to begin life anew on this planet. We rebuilt a world that had nearly been destroyed by evil, and we constructed the Genesis Pit in order to pursue the path of enlightened evolution…but it was not enough. The Earth is reviving and will eventually regain its proper balance in accordance with the laws of nature. However, the humans have been too strongly influenced by the malignant shadow of the Robotech Masters and are only intent upon the destruction of their race. We, the Invid, will continue our evolutionary development elsewhere."
Veknironth wrote:Well, no one has mentioned this yet and I'm not quite sure you'll count it but I'd take ANY of the Praxian hotties.
-Vek
"One of the shorter ones, prefferably."
Shin Kenshiro wrote:I'd have no qualms with such action in a Genesis pit. Honour does NOT mean stupidity. To have us fight in a big wide open clearing isn't honour....it's suicide. I'd wipe my butt with his Soldati and then where's the fun? A weekend fling with the Regis? It's an empty victory.
So no, the Genesis Pit "Rumble In The Jungle" sounds like a very viable idea.
Aaaand in the red corner: Shin Kenshiro piloting a classic Excalibur from the Late, Great, RDF!!!! Give him a big hand!!!!! *Crowd goes wild. RDF uniforms abound. Bras are thrown. Minmei rushes towards the genesis pit to give Shin a big kiss*
Aaaand in the Other red corner (this being a Genesis pit and all): Corsarius piloting an unmodified EBSIS Soldati battloid!!!! *Crowd on other side goes crazy. Chants of E-B-S-I-S drowns out all the cheers. Coarse grey EBSIS uniforms abound. Rather larger bras are thrown. A woman with classical neaderth.... uh... Soviet looks comes rushing down towards the genesis pit to give Corsarius a big kiss. Fortunately for all she is intercepted by two Enforcers and led away to the Genesis Hive for further adjustment*However, remember that unlike the VT pilots, ground warfare is what Destroid pilots excel at, and we know many dirty tricks. Case in point...remember that as my Excal is indeed slower, my heavy armor also might want to make you rethink your idea of grappling with me.
I don't want to grapple with you. You're twice my size for goodness sakes!What makes you think that if it's only the two of us fighting that I won't just unload all my short range missiles into you point blank while you hold my PBC's?
And what makes you think that if we are in a grappling situation that I won't slip between your weapons (there are none centrally mounted), hold on to your TZ-IVs with each hand and blast plasma from my head gun directly into your crew compartment. At last check you have a fairly dinky machine gun for close-in defence there... But otherwise, you are right. Your missiles are justly feared, as they are by all non-missile-armed mecha.Not enough clearing for me to keep a good shot on you? I have two clusters of jungle-clearing goodness, and my Mdm missiles are a great way to ensure I have a decent line of sight to many things around me.
But you telegraph your location VERY loudly with something like that. Remember, that the jungle environment scrambles your sensors and mine, so other sensors rule here. Actually, a Recon Destroyer would be well-suited for this scenario, and probably less likely to be toastRemember that a Soldati isn't what we'd call tiny either.
Half your size, sonny. About 9 metres. You're weighing in at about 14. (guesstimates as I don't have my books on me).In this kind of situation I'd have to go into sniper mentality.
We are both agreed on this, although being smaller and more manoeverable I would have an advantage in this. I think that Alphas, Master mecha, and Betas get a bonus in the jungle. Battloids, SC mecha, and Zentraedi get no bonus, and Destroids get a negative.Water would be my friend and any lake is a good place to hide as I'm not going to be worrying to much about oxygen constraints at first.
Maybe, but it limits your main weapons systems and puts me at an advantage, as with thrusters I can move in 3 dimensions, whereas you are reduced to trudging along the bottom, unless you have that funky-groovy-channel 27-Excal which was in the Accellerated training manual.
Hide there and shut down a majority of my systems and the water creates a perfect heat sink to fool any short range sensors you've got,
It's not that 'combattlemecha' came that we play on hex boards in the officer's mess. We are in mecha, we don't have heat problems.as well as making an excellent sound dampener, so many of my movements would go unheard.
If I was in a Recon Destroyer, I'd say 'maybe not', but this would go for both of us.One other thing to remember is that a PBC isn't really bothered by trees...so if I think you might be somewhere, I've got a stream of particles that goes and finds out.........I can pretty much negate cover at will.
Yes, at the ranges those things operate, you can really reach out and touch someone quite easily. Of course, they have a relatively slow rate of fire, and you'd have to come looking to see if I was really dead or just faking it eventually..In the sniper mentality I could just go down to a crouch which should drop height to around 25-30 ft. Good height to be just above the average tree line and get to see just how many trees are falling as my Soldati opponent plays hide and seek.
Zerebus wrote:Pink is nice so long as I'm not the one wearing it.
Terry57x wrote:If you could Date anyone of the woman from Robotech who would you date?
Shin Kenshiro wrote:More so than giant robots, big eyes, small mouths, and swords that move faster than reality...I think pink hair is the single most recognizable feature of anime.
It's baaaaad. Though I imagine it could be quite the psychological weapon...facing a Pink Veritech or waking up one morning to find that someone has painted your Cyclone PINK!!
Janus wrote:Is that Dana Sterling Svartalf?
Svartalf wrote:Janus wrote:Is that Dana Sterling Svartalf?
Yes... Just that I prefer to use the Original Japanese names for ASC characters, because RT is soo FUBAR that I can't accept any continuity between ASC and the other 2 pieces of the series.