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Robotech: Beige Squadron & Gray Company

“It’s like somebody forgot to take us out of the box and paint us up.”

Beige Squadron is a mixed mecha scratch unit distinguished by its sheer undistinguishedness; mediocre performance, lack of any service highlights, and a tendency to be assigned to real backwaters/background billets where they languish in obscurity. Standard issue, mass-produced, straight from central casting, Beige Squadron seems destined to fade into the woodwork, unnoticed.
They’d actually be fairly competent if properly motivated, and some of their actions are actually heroic, but have never been recognized. In the minds of the high command, Beige Squadron can best be regarded as spear-carriers, background dressing, or cannonfodder.
Names on the Beige Squadron duty roster:
Bill Blank
Ed Mook
John Doe and Jane Doe(not related)
Bob Smith
Fred Jones(no relation to any other Jones)
Joe Schmoe
Anon Emas

Their arch-rivals are the Zentraedi of the Gray Company(which is Beige Squadron's name for them; they have only a long and forgettable number designation as part of the Zentraedi war machine), equally unimpressive and indistinguishable amongst a galaxy-spanning army of clones. The Gray Company, like Beige Squadron, goes largely unnoticed by everybody else, and in that they are exceptional; they’ve survived being attached to Khyron the Backstabber’s command largely because every time Khyron wanted somebody to vent his rage on or some bunch of cannonfodder to draw fire, he overlooked and forgot that they even existed. Several times Gray Company could have played a decisive role in battle but for the fact that their superiors forgot they were there. Many a time, Gray Company’s had to watch from the sidelines, hanging in reserve, ignored by everybody else, while awaiting orders to engage, orders which never come.
Gray Company’s personnel are all non-descript cannonfodder-grade clones with single-syllable names:
Grond(Officer)
Spitz(Recon Pod)
Dud
Drek
Maltz
Orf
Grunt
Yutz
Gerk

The fights between Gray Company and Beige Squadron might be epic if anybody ever bothered to notice. As is, what might be bloody hellbent engagements in the shadows might just as likely be the two groups hanging around commiserating with each other.

Beige Squadron consists of:
15 veritechs
2 Tomahawk Destroids
2 Defender Destroids
2 Spartan Destroids
2 Phalanx Destroids

23 effectives all total.

Gray Company consists of:
12 Regults
4 Artillery Pods
1 Glaug
1 Recon Pod
1 Recovery Pod

19 effectives all total, yet despite this, they still manage to hold their own against Beige, largely because of their mobility and Beige’s lack of one effective leader.

*The joke, if it isn’t already evident, is that these are mecha units made up of the bare minimum Robotech RPG Tactics miniatures if one bought...at mostly full price, I’m ashamed to admit,....the basic packages and none of the special offer units. And, to add to their basicness, because the buyer is too inexperienced and lazy to bother painting them up, they’re in the default plastic colors. Now, I give them their backgrounds.
They’re effectively the faceless mooks and zombies of their respective services. The way-back-in-the-background spear-carriers and fill-out space-holders. Unlike mess-up units like Mauve Squadron and Ice Guard, Beige and Grey aren’t incompetent enough to actually catch anybody’s attention, and they aren’t distinguished enough to hold anybody’s attention. Easily overlooked, easily forgotten, they’re the Rosencrantz and Gildenstern of the Robotech epic, only they’re not quite dead. Every time they reach for greatness, they fall just short, and every time they might gain infamy, they just can’t sink low enough. The veterans of Mauve would love to know how these guys maintain such a stable status, if they ever knew of them, but it’s just as likely that even the Mauves would be bored to tears with their lives if they actually WERE like Beige and Grey.

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Ironically, they can well sympathize with the two guys in the WH40K 'Turn Signals On a Land Raider' 'Pointy Sticks' Space Marine Chapter who are the test-paint models....and are buried under so many blurred and bled coats of paint they've lost all identity.

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Every so often Beige Squadron vanishes from their barracks and base completely, will be gone for a few days, and be back as suddenly as they left, with outlandish tales being babbled about Space Samurai, annoying German generals, and fighting a bunch of green birds.

UEDF command can make no heads or tails of these stories, and chalks these events up to combat stress leading to a Mass AWOL event.






edit: this is in refernce ot the fact the UEDF figures are about perfectly scaled to proxy Warhammers, Longbows, Archers, Riflemen, and Phoenix Hawk Land Air Mechs, in battletech. and i know some people who backed RTT purely to get access to said figures for their collections, since the old FASA figures for their original looks are hard to find now, and usually quite wretched due to the lower quality sculpting efforts used in the 80's and 90's)

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The some potential Ice Guard candidate who some how gained info on the Ice Guard decides to have a cross competition between Beige Squad and the Ice Guards.

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Kargan3033 wrote:
The some potential Ice Guard candidate who some how gained info on the Ice Guard decides to have a cross competition between Beige Squad and the Ice Guards.


Ironically, the most comprehensive information on Beige/Grey(and from which it can be claimed any hard data posted here was gleaned) was compiled by Lieutenant-Inspector Inne Spector of Ice Guard, who kept finding gaps in archived action and supply reports. He was annoyed by what seemed to be a 'blind spot' in the UEDF organization.
One day he looked away from his computer in frustration....when he turned back, there was a header for Beige Squadron. References to Grey Company came soon after.
Spector(wrongly) believes that the two units are part of some sort of special stealth organization. But he just can't figure out how they fit into the larger scheme of things. And he keeps forgetting to work on digging deeper.
And, of course, this file on B/G is buried up at Ice Guard where it's not as if anybody really looks.....

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Are Beige Squadron & Gray Company really members of The Silence? (Doctor Who reference, 11th Doctor)


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ShadowLogan wrote:
Are Beige Squadron & Gray Company really members of The Silence? (Doctor Who reference, 11th Doctor)



MMMMIIIIIIGGGHHHTTTTbbbbeeeee.....

They HAVE been known to hang with the wh40K 'Pointy Sticks' Space Marine Scouts(the guys who keep getting left at the gaming store play tables because they're so freakin' good at hiding in the game table landscaping).

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Most of the conflicts between Beige and Grey consist of hide-and-seek, cat-and-mouse ops with a lot of running around and chasing and occasional sniping, but not much actually shooting and nothing decisive(it’s telling that the two units have not actually managed to score any casualties on each other), though they have managed to scrape and pockmark each others’ mecha.
One gets the impression that if both units were ever dropped in a box canyon together, they’d probably wind up becoming an internet meme.
But while their few victories have gone unnoticed, so have been their defeats and failures(which have been often ascribed to other causes or units).

Individual Members:
*Anon Emas(Spartan Destroid Pilot) Emas’s brown Spartan looks like it was scrapped badly with with a giant knife and then sandblasted for good measure. Carved-off and shaved-down panels, solder and slag dribblets disfiguring the armor, discolored pits, chipped edges and half-melted angle lines tell of either horrendous combat or equally horrendous maintenance. Still, Emas is considered to be the banner-bearer for Beige Squadron, a role the desert-born(he won’t say what desert, though) Emas carries out with some pride, if not much opportunity.

*Joe Dirt(VF-1J Pilot and Officer)---Clay-complexioned Joe Dirt is often mistaken for a Zentraedi trying to lay low. Actually, the Dirts have been doing that for decades, if not centuries, and the fact that Joe made officer in the UEDF is cause for some pride from some quarters of the family, and grave concern from others. Even though Joe’s a lieutenant in Beige Squadron(a unit so undistinguished that even many of the Dirts forget what its name is), the fact that a -DIRT- is an OFFICER in anything (including the Swampwort Lodge) threatens to draw entirely too much attention to a family that prides itself on surviving by virtue of not drawing ANY attention. Lt. Dirt arguably spends as much time fighting his relatives who want him to quit, as much as he does the Zentraedi. As one of those with any authority in Beige Squadron, Lt. Dirt is often torn between instinctively taking the low road in ducking out of conflict or taking the initiative and aggressively pursuing the squadron’s assigned objectives.

*Harry Mud(VF-1J Pilot and Officer)---He only WISHES he was as roguish and illustrious as his TOS Star Trek namesake. Instead he’s a bookish military academy stampout who barely made the cut for graduating officer school by a microfilm margin(one of his examiners summed him up as ‘barely having enough imagination to breath hard’). Though seemingly lacking in any creative initiative, Lt. Mud’s apparent phlegmatic patience can prove incredibly frustrating to enemies and allies alike who have thought to take advantage of Beige Squadron’s lack of tactics. Lt. Mud once kept his flight sitting on station in the middle of nowhere for WEEKS, apparently not willing to move without explicit orders from higher up, despite the fact that their position was a total backwater of no importance. But when the Zentraedi DID come through what they thought was a totally unprotected flank of the UEDF, they found Beige waiting for them. To this day, Gray Company has NO idea how Beige knew they were coming.

*Spitz(Recon Pod Scout)---Spitz is Grey Company’s overworked scouter. He spends almost all of his time inside his Recon Pod, despite the fact that it’s long overdue for overhaul(or just plain replacement), though Spitz is well aware that replacements are not going to be forthcoming. Piloting the weakest unarmed mecha that is most likely to attract hostile EW and HARM activity, Spitz has gotten VERY good at dodging.

*Grond( Glaug Officer's Pod)---Grond is Grey Company’s commander. Technically, he’s superior to either of Beige Squadron’s two lieutenants, and has a more centralized and tighter command structure, which should prove more decisive in the engagements between the two units, but Grond has to spend most of his time and tactical acumen just trying to keep his people alive in the face of Beige’s superior numbers and mobility. Perhaps over ten years’ experience survivng being attached to Khyron the Backstabber’s command has helped Grond in this. Uncharacteristic of Zentraedi officer-caste clones, Grond is satisfied with just breaking even and keeping his command intact most of the time.

*Mitz(Recovery Pod Pilot)---It’s odd to find a Female Zentraedi in a Male unit, but Mitz pilots Gray Company’s sole Quel-Gulnau Recovery Pod. Though some may joke about ‘Mitz and Spitz’ as the two wholly unarmed and overworked mecha pilots, their jokes may have a grain of truth; the two may actually share a genetic bloodline and genetic predilection for being VERY fast at dodging and evading. Though pacifistic and shy, Mitz shows considerable courage in using her Recovery Pod to snatch badly injured/damaged Gray Company members out from under the guns of their enemies.

*Slaz(Telnestra Regult Pilot)---- Pilot of Gray Company’s sole fire-support Telnestra Regult. Bloodthirsty and trigger-happy, Slaz is constantly frustrated by the fact that even the slow-moving destroids of Beige Squadron seem to avoid his supposedly accurate fire, usually by ducking behind obstacles(or falling through gaps in the carpenting and pillows). Of course, his over-eagerness may factor into this as well; Slaz often fires before the targeting computers achieve complete lock-on. Slaz is usually the first to volunteer for ANYTHING, so eager is he to get some ACTION, which means he’s usually stuck doing some onerous boring task that he didn’t bother learning about before volunteering.

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Grond: "At last, we've assembled our first Heavy Artillery Pod from spare parts! We have the advantage over-"
Spitz: "Bad news, milord, I have observed the detested Beigers offloading four new destroids, two Spartans and two more Phalanx-types."
Grond: "ARGH! That gives them even more of a numerical advantage and a heavier weight of artillery, even if they lack our mobility!"
Slaz: "If you authorize the final gluing of -my- pod, sir, I can destroy them in their sleep!"
Grond: "NO, Slaz, just no! To take action now with logistics in the fleet disappearing is to risk losing everything! I will not jeopardize this command on a questionable rampage strategy!"
Slaz: "...weeny..."

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Grull: "and you never let me out to help fight."
Grond: "You have our only Nousjadeul-Ger! and doctrine states those must always deploy in multiples of Three! we cannot go against Doctrine!"




(since i suspect a lot of us now have only a single Nousjadeul-Ger thanks to the Grell figure.)

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Grull: "and you never let me out to help fight."
Grond: "You have our only Nousjadeul-Ger! and doctrine states those must always deploy in multiples of Three! we cannot go against Doctrine!"




(since i suspect a lot of us now have only a single Nousjadeul-Ger thanks to the Grell figure.)


Missed out on mine, I'm afraid.
My little army isn't yet complete(IGrond's still awaiting some straggler Regults to come in...hopefully the mail didn't foul up)

But yeah, Grond's by-the-book, so by-the-book he's considered something of a dullard among his fellow Zentraedi, but less so than Harry Mud, who makes Grond look like a micronian-corrupted libertine.

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*Slaz(Telnestra Regult Pilot)---- Pilot of Gray Company’s sole fire-support Telnestra Regult. Bloodthirsty and trigger-happy, Slaz is constantly frustrated by the fact that even the slow-moving destroids of Beige Squadron seem to avoid his supposedly accurate fire, usually by ducking behind obstacles(or falling through gaps in the carpenting and pillows)..


Let me guess you have read some Mini/toyhammer fan fiction at some point in time right?

Hmm a RT verion of a Mini/toyhammer story, how would that work out?

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taalismn wrote:
*Slaz(Telnestra Regult Pilot)---- Pilot of Gray Company’s sole fire-support Telnestra Regult. Bloodthirsty and trigger-happy, Slaz is constantly frustrated by the fact that even the slow-moving destroids of Beige Squadron seem to avoid his supposedly accurate fire, usually by ducking behind obstacles(or falling through gaps in the carpenting and pillows)..


Let me guess you have read some Mini/toyhammer fan fiction at some point in time right?

Hmm a RT verion of a Mini/toyhammer story, how would that work out?


I'll admit to being influenced by Turn Signals on a Land Raider.

And....
The last half-dozen Regults came out of stasis in the cargo container that Grey Company had pulled from the dying hulk of the beached Salan transport. The pilots, all new clones, but somewhat battered by their precipitous arrival, came awake with the enthusiasm of the freshly brain-stamped;
"Hail! We stand ready to fight for the glory of the Empire!" :-D
Grond: "Welcome aboard. Barring some second-hand insurgency, unusually well-connected Malcontent band, or the second coming of Lord Macek, you're the last fresh deployments you'll ever see. Our situation is that we are undecorated, likely to remain that way, ungloried, and outnumbered. But, at least, we have some degree of tactical mobility over our foes...when we can tell them apart. Around here, we generally tell each other apart by the adhesive dribbles on our mecha hulls. So, one of these people behind me will escort you to your billet, show you where you get your rations, and fill you in on the cyclical duty grind. " :|
"...we stand ready to fight for the glory of the Empire...." :-?

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taalismn wrote:
I'll admit to being influenced by Turn Signals on a Land Raider.


I have never read that, is it any good and where is it located at?

Quote:
And....
The last half-dozen Regults came out of stasis in the cargo container that Grey Company had pulled from the dying hulk of the beached Salan transport. The pilots, all new clones, but somewhat battered by their precipitous arrival, came awake with the enthusiasm of the freshly brain-stamped;
"Hail! We stand ready to fight for the glory of the Empire!" :-D
Grond: "Welcome aboard. Barring some second-hand insurgency, unusually well-connected Malcontent band, or the second coming of Lord Macek, you're the last fresh deployments you'll ever see. Our situation is that we are undecorated, likely to remain that way, ungloried, and outnumbered. But, at least, we have some degree of tactical mobility over our foes...when we can tell them apart. Around here, we generally tell each other apart by the adhesive dribbles on our mecha hulls. So, one of these people behind me will escort you to your billet, show you where you get your rations, and fill you in on the cyclical duty grind. " :|
"...we stand ready to fight for the glory of the Empire...." :-?


Wow talk about morale building LOL

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Read page 1 here
it stopped updating years ago so don't worry about archive whiplash.. but it is a fairly deep archive. some of the jokes will make more sense if you are a Games Workshop/Warhammer40K player, most will work even if you are just familiar with miniatures games in general.


also i am afraid that the Mithril detachment of both the UEDF and Zentraedi grand fleet, while sizeable*, will be stuck in stassis for awhile.. i gotta build My Brother's army first. he's a great painter, but sadly can't assemble miniatures all that well, and unlike the 40K stuff, the RTT mini's are just too intricate. i recently got his Zents done from his half of the Showdown order we did.. i haven't started the UEDF stuff yet.


*i have basically a Battlecry, plus an extra starter, plus several extra destroid packs, and an extra of each of the VF, pods, artillery pods, and Zent command unit sets.. i also have several extra VF battloid sprues around here somewhere i got in samplers/grabags.. not sure how i'm gonna use those. :)
my final tally, not counting the extra battloid sprues i know i have somewhere, came to;
Zents: 4 Officer's pod, 4 Recovery Pod, 4 Recon pod, 36 Battlepod, 8 Artillery Pod, 1 Male PA
UEDF: 8 Tomahawk, 8 Defender, 8 Spartan, 8 Phalanx, 16 Valkyrie Fighter 16 Valkyrie Guardian, 18 Valkyrie Battloid

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I should have invested in more destroids, but I'm between jobs, so economy must...
and I'm not the best model builder, let alone painter.
Still, I have enough to milk my collection for 'ragtag' humor. :wink:

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i probably should have gotten another box of battlepods instead of the extra zent command pod set.. but i do like the Gluag, and the more chances to pull off new waves of reserves, the better.

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Meanwhile, in Grey Company's assembly area...

"Am I -supposed- to be able to see through the seams in the Regult's hull?!"
"Ah....is the pelvic coupler really shaped like that?"
"-This- part isn't in the service manual!!!"
"Pull it apart and try again!"
"Don't micronians use special tools for this sort of thing?"
"HOLD IT 'TIL IT SETS!!!! UNTIL IT SETS!!! NO, WAIT! GET YOUR HAND OFF THAT!!! HELP! WE NEED HELP UNGLUING BRONT!"
"Is this part of the weapons assembly, or the sprue?"

"How are the troops shaking out?"
"-Shaking- is right. LOOK OUT! WATCH THE BALANCE! BALANCE!!!!!! ...get some help over there and get him upright again!"

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*Tom “Two-Gu’ Lee(Spartan Pilot)----A post-Rain of Death recruit with arguably more enthusiasm than actual skill or commonsense, young Tom Lee wanted to distinguish himself from all the Toms and all the Lees out there by becoming a Destroid ace, and the way to do that was to double up his firepower in spectacular fashion---dual-wielding two GU-11 gunpods in each paw of his Spartan. Already anticipating nicknames like ‘Tommy Gun’, ‘Two-Gun’, and ‘Gunslinger’, Tom Lee went into combat, where he promptly showed that single-handing a fully automatic weapon in each hand requires a lot more skill than enthusiasm. Between randomly spraying the battlefield and knocking himself out of the picture with the combined recoils of his two weapons, Lee neither distinguished nor endeared himself to his colleagues. Tom Lee continues to try to get the bugs out of his ‘system’, using GU-11s and captured Zentraedi rifles, but has failed to achieve the proficiency and fame he thought his schtick would. Many in Beige Squadron blame him, and not the Zentraedi, for the pockmarked appearance of their mecha, as just about everybody claims to have been tagged at least once by a stray shot from ‘Two-Gu’.

*Fred ‘Snoozer’ Jones(Phalanx Pilot) ---Fred Jones(no KNOWN relation to any other Jones in Ice Guard and the Deep Ones) emphasizes that his job and strength is -indirect- fire support, so he will cheerfully stay out of the line of fire tucked behind cover somewhere. Ideally, he will stay out of a fight altogether, especially if it’s against opposition that could engage him directly. Fred has gotten adept at hiding his lumbering destroid and taking naps in his cockpit, snoozing away while everybody else is running around yelling and screaming. This makes the actual appearance of his destroid all the more startling when he -is- discovered and forced to react with hipshot reflex, typically with a full barrage of missiles to the finder’s face. This is more often than not mistaken for tactical genius, and keeps Fred Jones from being courtmartialed. The fact that he’s also reflexively reacted with missile spam to Beige’s own aerial assets finding him and interrupting his naptime means that the majority of Beige’s veritech pilots are frankly terrified and unwilling to go looking for him, for fear of a ‘friendly fire’ incident.

*Nogh Won(VF-1A Pilot)----Nogh Won might be up there with Max Sterling, Rick Hunter, and Roy Fokker as an ace among aces...except that nobody’s ever seen him score any kills. His combat recorder’s either malfunctioned, his gun camera’s been obscured, witness testimony has been spotty or lacking entirely, or, when officers have asked who’s claimed a kill, the answer is ‘Nogh Won’, and that’s closed the case. Subsequently, Won’s been transferred to Beige Squadron, where his frustrated failure to score a decisive hit on jackrabbiting Greys has caused his already flagging morale to nosedive and his performance to degrade. Bets are cynically being taken on whether he’ll take up drinking or narcotics as a habit.

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Read page 1 here
it stopped updating years ago so don't worry about archive whiplash.. but it is a fairly deep archive. some of the jokes will make more sense if you are a Games Workshop/Warhammer40K player, most will work even if you are just familiar with miniatures games in general.


also i am afraid that the Mithril detachment of both the UEDF and Zentraedi grand fleet, while sizeable*, will be stuck in stassis for awhile.. i gotta build My Brother's army first. he's a great painter, but sadly can't assemble miniatures all that well, and unlike the 40K stuff, the RTT mini's are just too intricate. i recently got his Zents done from his half of the Showdown order we did.. i haven't started the UEDF stuff yet.


*i have basically a Battlecry, plus an extra starter, plus several extra destroid packs, and an extra of each of the VF, pods, artillery pods, and Zent command unit sets.. i also have several extra VF battloid sprues around here somewhere i got in samplers/grabags.. not sure how i'm gonna use those. :)
my final tally, not counting the extra battloid sprues i know i have somewhere, came to;
Zents: 4 Officer's pod, 4 Recovery Pod, 4 Recon pod, 36 Battlepod, 8 Artillery Pod, 1 Male PA
UEDF: 8 Tomahawk, 8 Defender, 8 Spartan, 8 Phalanx, 16 Valkyrie Fighter 16 Valkyrie Guardian, 18 Valkyrie Battloid


Sounds nice and thanks for the link, I have the starter set of RTT but I have not opened it yet given that it seems that RTT is no longer going to be made so I'm keep it as a collector's item for some time down the line, might get other sets off of E-bay to paint up the way I want them.

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Sounds nice and thanks for the link, I have the starter set of RTT but I have not opened it yet given that it seems that RTT is no longer going to be made so I'm keep it as a collector's item for some time down the line, might get other sets off of E-bay to paint up the way I want them.



Likewise....I'm keeping my boxed set unopened until I REALLY need a whiff of childhood happiness.

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*Zzod ---Zzod pilots Gray Company’s sole Heavy Artillery Pod. Given the rarity of the type and its limited ammunition supply, Zzod’s typically kept in reserve by Grond and in the thick of an escort of standard Regults. This suits Zzod just fine, as it allows him to do a minimum of work effectively. He just waits, bides his time, fires his missiles when told to, then tries to pull back(Zzod HATES it when he’s ordered to join the main line and contribute his Pod’s PBC fire to the fray; he’s a SPECIALIST, not some mass-produced grunt). Thing is, he’s not THAT far removed from the rank and file he disparages, so his efforts to step aside and watch from the sidelines constantly get foiled by the other troopers around him.

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(only 1 heavy pod?)

does Zzod insist people kneel before him? :)

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does Zzod insist people kneel before him? :)


I got only one Artillery Pod pack, one of which is being formatted as the heavy PBC carrier and two as Light Artillery Pods, leaving one to be the Heavy.

And yeah, that would be the logical gag, but his name 'Zzod' also suggests his habit of snoozing and snoring while awaiting the order to launch his LRMs.
I thought about giving him a Regult-piloting sidekick named 'Non', but I figure I'll save that for one of Beige's pilots 'Non Entetti', maybe.

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Sounds nice and thanks for the link, I have the starter set of RTT but I have not opened it yet given that it seems that RTT is no longer going to be made so I'm keep it as a collector's item for some time down the line, might get other sets off of E-bay to paint up the way I want them.



Likewise....I'm keeping my boxed set unopened until I REALLY need a whiff of childhood happiness.


I hear what you are saying, who knows how much and unopened starter set will be worth a few years down the road, but still I'm tempted to open it up and go to town with the painting and what not.

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[quote="taalismn']'Non Entetti', maybe.[/quote]

A ghost in the ranks eh, maybe a deep cover agent for the UEDF intel division.

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[quote="taalismn']'Non Entetti', maybe.[/quote]

A ghost in the ranks eh, maybe a deep cover agent for the UEDF intel division.[/quote]


Yeah, and they forgot he or she was placed there. Powers of blending proving TOO effective.

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have you picked a setting yet? how about a box canyon in the middle of nowhere* on opposite sides? :)

*(aka, the living room)

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have you picked a setting yet? how about a box canyon in the middle of nowhere* on opposite sides? :)

*(aka, the living room)



Yeah, given that my house has the decades-collected detritus of a family of book-lovers, odds-and-ends collectors, and packrats, it's some of the most fantastic terrain imaginable...towers of books, trays of sea shells and polished rocks, models my father assembled(including a miniature treehouse, a pagoda, several model ships, several dozen yards of wooden chains, and a castle which is currently hiding a Spartan and two Battlepods), and several stuffed animals. :D

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have you picked a setting yet? how about a box canyon in the middle of nowhere* on opposite sides? :)

*(aka, the living room)



Yeah, given that my house has the decades-collected detritus of a family of book-lovers, odds-and-ends collectors, and packrats, it's some of the most fantastic terrain imaginable...towers of books, trays of sea shells and polished rocks, models my father assembled(including a miniature treehouse, a pagoda, several model ships, several dozen yards of wooden chains, and a castle which is currently hiding a Spartan and two Battlepods), and several stuffed animals. :D


Gods this is just begging for the mni/toyhammer treatment. :lol:

I can just imagen the mini zents reactions to suddenly coming face to face with a giant stuffed animal.

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Gods this is just begging for the mni/toyhammer treatment. :lol:

I can just imagen the mini zents reactions to suddenly coming face to face with a giant stuffed animal.



My thoughts exactly. My older brother's friend sent him a snow leopard plushy from Scotland that arrived today...he set it next to the castle model that had several completed RRPGT models manning the battelements...it was like Robotech Meets Fuzzy Godzilla....

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oohhf.. Mine are gonna be super confused then, when the 9 inch tall Matchbox Tomahawk and the 7 inch super-poseable Shadow alpha show up..

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oohhf.. Mine are gonna be super confused then, when the 9 inch tall Matchbox Tomahawk and the 7 inch super-poseable Shadow alpha show up..



I have a Matchbox Phalanx/Spartan....mini-Spartan is parked next to it. It's like a mecha scaled for King Kong(Japanese version).

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(With regards to the whole 'toyhammer' deal)

Thing is, with regards to ‘we’re essentially toys in a game’, Beige Squadron is mostly in denial, and will talk circles(”Nope, nope, nope, not hearing you! La-la-la-la!”) around the subject whenever it comes up, and hiding in the box.
Being vat-grown cammonfodder clones, however, Grey Company is more accepting of their state, so they arguably have an advantage over Beige when it comes to handling reality. Enough that they often know enough to hide the glue from their loyal opposition. They’ve also on occasion managed to metagame them, such as contriving to slip Beige the wrong force cards, making some of their destroid pilots think that they’re really attached to a Malcontent force. Actually, Grey Company may be SMARTER than Beige Squadron for all their retreatingTACTICAL REPOSITIONING that they’re constantly doing to avoid Beige’s air advantage and artillery reach.

Also Grey Company sometimes hangs around WH40K models, where they(in their mecha) often pass themselves off as surviving Squats in heavy mechanized exosuits. Their skills at being inconspicious allows them to drink at the same watering holes with Imperial Guardsmen, while remaining below the radar of Commissars and abhuman-hating Inquisitors.

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Gods this is just begging for the mni/toyhammer treatment. :lol:

I can just imagen the mini zents reactions to suddenly coming face to face with a giant stuffed animal.



My thoughts exactly. My older brother's friend sent him a snow leopard plushy from Scotland that arrived today...he set it next to the castle model that had several completed RRPGT models manning the battelements...it was like Robotech Meets Fuzzy Godzilla....


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(With regards to the whole 'toyhammer' deal)

Thing is, with regards to ‘we’re essentially toys in a game’, Beige Squadron is mostly in denial, and will talk circles(”Nope, nope, nope, not hearing you! La-la-la-la!”) around the subject whenever it comes up, and hiding in the box.
Being vat-grown cammonfodder clones, however, Grey Company is more accepting of their state, so they arguably have an advantage over Beige when it comes to handling reality. Enough that they often know enough to hide the glue from their loyal opposition. They’ve also on occasion managed to metagame them, such as contriving to slip Beige the wrong force cards, making some of their destroid pilots think that they’re really attached to a Malcontent force. Actually, Grey Company may be SMARTER than Beige Squadron for all their retreatingTACTICAL REPOSITIONING that they’re constantly doing to avoid Beige’s air advantage and artillery reach.

Also Grey Company sometimes hangs around WH40K models, where they(in their mecha) often pass themselves off as surviving Squats in heavy mechanized exosuits. Their skills at being inconspicious allows them to drink at the same watering holes with Imperial Guardsmen, while remaining below the radar of Commissars and abhuman-hating Inquisitors.



Nice! :twisted:

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*Yutz(Regult Pilot)---Yutz pilots an ‘armor-enhanced Regult’; due to a botched assembly job, the main body of the Battle Pod is deformed by excessive adhesive resin. The extra layering of dried synthetic goop makes the Regult look even more organic, and has the net effect of acting like spray-on appliqué armor netting. It also makes his ‘pod feel rather tacky to the touch, so the mecha has to be frequently ‘shaved’ to remove collected lint, dust, and grit. Yutz feels particularly lucky to have the extra protection(it once stopped several GU-11 rounds cold from penetrating), so he doesn’t let ANYBODY else pilot his machine.

*Gerth(Regult Pilot)---Gerth is arguably the one Grey Company trooper that is most corrupted by micronian culture. With a build that can be charitably described as ‘stout’ or ‘well-filled out’, the perphaps very appropriately named Gerth has a taste for Terran foods, to the point that Grond worries that the trooper would defect to Beige Squadron in a heartbeat if they offered cookies. Gerth has frequently made daring forays into the Food Zone(the Kitchen) on late night munchy raids, returning with his Battle Pod stuffed with snacks like a hamster(Grond admits that Gerth is extremely courageous when Spicy Corn Puffs are involved). His Regult often seems to be on the verge of bursting at the seams, though its performance hasn’t been hindered to any great degree by the extra stuffing.

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*Joe “G.I.”/”Slow” Schmoe(Phalanx Pilot)----Schmoe’s clearly been in the thick of action; his Phalanx shows signs of being repeatedly slagged by intense heat, suggesting capital-class nukes and beam weapons. His destroid’s cockpit hatch has been bubbled and blown out on one side and never properly repaired, parts are skewed and thermal-welded in place, and his leg actuators melted and almost fused, making the Phalanx slower than normal, as well as slightly off-balance. Schmoe thus has to spend more time than usual just trying to stay upright. That may actually have saved his life on several occasions, as he’s fallen flat just as a beam carved overhead through what should have been his hull, or he’s fallen behind cover as the shockwave hit. It hasn’t helped his combat effectiveness, however, as he often is able to bring his launchers up only after his targets have nimbly skipped back out of sight in the time it takes his melted actuators to grind around to bear.

*M.T. Pace(Phalanx Pilot)---Mary Thomas Pace is one of Beige’s Phalanx Destroid pilots, and favors the more accurate and powerful Scorpio missile launchers. She is arguably the most bloodthirsty of the Phalanx pilots, and she aggressively stalks the battlefield looking for appropriate targets to spend her limited number of shots on, arguably making her the Squadron’s sniper-in-residence. The problem is, the Phalanx is hardly a stealthy or fast mecha(and Pace not exactly the most adroit of pilots), so her opponents have a very good chance of spotting her coming, and thus of avoiding her fire. Even the hyper-accurate Scorpio seems to miss the wily and dodge-experienced Grey Company mecha, though only -just-, much to Pace’s frustration, leading to some spectacular rants and tantrums.

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*Yutz(Regult Pilot)---Yutz pilots an ‘armor-enhanced Regult’; due to a botched assembly job, the main body of the Battle Pod is deformed by excessive adhesive resin. The extra layering of dried synthetic goop makes the Regult look even more organic, and has the net effect of acting like spray-on appliqué armor netting. It also makes his ‘pod feel rather tacky to the touch, so the mecha has to be frequently ‘shaved’ to remove collected lint, dust, and grit. Yutz feels particularly lucky to have the extra protection(it once stopped several GU-11 rounds cold from penetrating), so he doesn’t let ANYBODY else pilot his machine.

*Gerth(Regult Pilot)---Gerth is arguably the one Grey Company trooper that is most corrupted by micronian culture. With a build that can be charitably described as ‘stout’ or ‘well-filled out’, the perphaps very appropriately named Gerth has a taste for Terran foods, to the point that Grond worries that the trooper would defect to Beige Squadron in a heartbeat if they offered cookies. Gerth has frequently made daring forays into the Food Zone(the Kitchen) on late night munchy raids, returning with his Battle Pod stuffed with snacks like a hamster(Grond admits that Gerth is extremely courageous when Spicy Corn Puffs are involved). His Regult often seems to be on the verge of bursting at the seams, though its performance hasn’t been hindered to any great degree by the extra stuffing.


Sweet!, I can just see Gerth taking to mind to *hunt* up some cola :twisted:

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*Joe “G.I.”/”Slow” Schmoe(Phalanx Pilot)----Schmoe’s clearly been in the thick of action; his Phalanx shows signs of being repeatedly slagged by intense heat, suggesting capital-class nukes and beam weapons. His destroid’s cockpit hatch has been bubbled and blown out on one side and never properly repaired, parts are skewed and thermal-welded in place, and his leg actuators melted and almost fused, making the Phalanx slower than normal, as well as slightly off-balance. Schmoe thus has to spend more time than usual just trying to stay upright. That may actually have saved his life on several occasions, as he’s fallen flat just as a beam carved overhead through what should have been his hull, or he’s fallen behind cover as the shockwave hit. It hasn’t helped his combat effectiveness, however, as he often is able to bring his launchers up only after his targets have nimbly skipped back out of sight in the time it takes his melted actuators to grind around to bear.

*M.T. Pace(Phalanx Pilot)---Mary Thomas Pace is one of Beige’s Phalanx Destroid pilots, and favors the more accurate and powerful Scorpio missile launchers. She is arguably the most bloodthirsty of the Phalanx pilots, and she aggressively stalks the battlefield looking for appropriate targets to spend her limited number of shots on, arguably making her the Squadron’s sniper-in-residence. The problem is, the Phalanx is hardly a stealthy or fast mecha(and Pace not exactly the most adroit of pilots), so her opponents have a very good chance of spotting her coming, and thus of avoiding her fire. Even the hyper-accurate Scorpio seems to miss the wily and dodge-experienced Grey Company mecha, though only -just-, much to Pace’s frustration, leading to some spectacular rants and tantrums.


Nice real nice, I guess given how *temperamental* Miss.Pace is you could say she on a perma rag.

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No, she just likes the thought of MASSIVE DESTRUCTION THAT YOU CAN'T AVOID!!!
HAMMER OF GOD TIME, ####ERS!

Of course, when she fails to SMITE, she goes up a certain river.
Wonders if somebody is loading her racks with WW2-vintage American torpedoes.

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No, she just likes the thought of MASSIVE DESTRUCTION THAT YOU CAN'T AVOID!!!
HAMMER OF GOD TIME, ####ERS!

Of course, when she fails to SMITE, she goes up a certain river.
Wonders if somebody is loading her racks with WW2-vintage American torpedoes.



Well with what I said in my last post it might explain why she is so*cranky and death and destruction loving* mech pilot.

Well at lest no one is loading her mech with WWII era V-1s

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Beige and Grey, of all the misfit units presented in these threads, probably live the most surreal existences, because they have a MATERIAL presence beyond the 4th Wall in the Real World, and they commute back and fourth between the world(s) of Robotech and the equally alien realm that is the House(where they bunk in the Big Box and the Small Boxes, and look out across such things as the Food Zone, Resource Room, the Great Chamber, and the Lesser Chambers. populated with strange and great creatures like the Mothfolk and the Plushy Ones). They're arguably more messed-up than any of the other groups on the forums.

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taalismn wrote:
Beige and Grey, of all the misfit units presented in these threads, probably live the most surreal existences, because they have a MATERIAL presence beyond the 4th Wall in the Real World, and they commute back and fourth between the world(s) of Robotech and the equally alien realm that is the House(where they bunk in the Big Box and the Small Boxes, and look out across such things as the Food Zone, Resource Room, the Great Chamber, and the Lesser Chambers. populated with strange and great creatures like the Mothfolk and the Plushy Ones). They're arguably more messed-up than any of the other groups on the forums.


Sounds like an RT rehash of the movie Jacob's Ladder, a pretty good Cronaenberg flick if I remember rightly who made it.

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Well, there's no evidence that drugs are involved in the two groups...in fact, the Zentraedi may be well aware of the REALITY.

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Well, there's no evidence that drugs are involved in the two groups...in fact, the Zentraedi may be well aware of the REALITY.


Well considering that according to game cannon that the Master dope up the zents it's hard for them to tell what is Real Real and Drug Real.

Which leads to some how shall we say *entertaining* moments when one of the Zents freaks out at the controls of his mech which leads to ten digit range property damage values.

But at lest the general public is saving massive amounts of money on urban renewal costs even if say *urban renewal* is largely unplanned and semi controlled.

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taalismn wrote:
Well, there's no evidence that drugs are involved in the two groups...in fact, the Zentraedi may be well aware of the REALITY.


Well considering that according to game cannon that the Master dope up the zents it's hard for them to tell what is Real Real and Drug Real.

Which leads to some how shall we say *entertaining* moments when one of the Zents freaks out at the controls of his mech which leads to ten digit range property damage values.

But at lest the general public is saving massive amounts of money on urban renewal costs even if say *urban renewal* is largely unplanned and semi controlled.


So far all my mine have done is trip over the pencils and dice on my dining room table.

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where does the canon say they dope up the zents though? i mean, yes the masters used music, brainwashing, and probably a fair amount of subliminals to make their civilian population aboard their city-ships docile, and when in a tight spot they used drugs to turn their civilians and foot soldiers into aggressive berserker zombies, but i don't remember anything about the masters drugging (or any other method) the zents.

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where does the canon say they dope up the zents though? i mean, yes the masters used music, brainwashing, and probably a fair amount of subliminals to make their civilian population aboard their city-ships docile, and when in a tight spot they used drugs to turn their civilians and foot soldiers into aggressive berserker zombies, but i don't remember anything about the masters drugging (or any other method) the zents.



In GAME cannon, The Macross Saga 2 Edtion page 224 under Zenttraedi Warrior Infantry RCC listing, there is a penalty called Chemical Dependency for that RCC.

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