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Unread postPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:31 pm
  

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Defender - Raidar X in old RPG, Rifleman in Battletech
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Spartan - Gladiator in old RPG, Archer in Battletech
Phalanx - Spartan in old RPG, Longbow in Battletech
Monster - Mac II in old RPG, Behemoth in Batteldroids (precursor to Battletech)
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Armoured Valkyrie - Crusader in Battletech (Battloid Mode)
Regult Tactical Battle Pod - Used as a pseudo basis for the Ostscout, Ostroc and Ostol
Glaug Officer Battlepod- Marauder and Maruader II in Battletech

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Unread postPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:36 pm
  

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So... for the vaguely curious who never bothered to look it up due to tremendous apathy on the subject, why exactly did the Macross mecha end up with incorrect names in 1e? Most of the art books Palladium would've had access to print the names in English...

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Unread postPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:59 pm
  

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I don't really care about that. I'd actually like this to get Stickied so people that aren't used to the change can use it for easy reference.

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Unread postPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:10 pm
  

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http://www.palladium-megaverse.com/foru ... view=print

The answer?


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Unread postPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 4:27 pm
  

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wow, a blast from the past...

the 1st ed names came from early robotech toy sales.. when matchbox started making toys, they were never given the macross names for the units, so they just made up their own. later those names found their way into most of the merchandising, mostly by dint of brand recognition.

other than the addition of the "-X" in the Raider-X, the names aren't bad. personally i'd use them with 1st ed's "REF destroids" if they were ever brought into 2nd ed. i'd just drop the "X" from the Raider, and change the missile mecha over to "Shark" due to the overlap.

i do like the Macross names for the canon destroids though.

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glitterboy2098 wrote:
wow, a blast from the past...

the 1st ed names came from early robotech toy sales.. when matchbox started making toys, they were never given the macross names for the units, so they just made up their own. later those names found their way into most of the merchandising, mostly by dint of brand recognition.

other than the addition of the "-X" in the Raider-X, the names aren't bad. personally i'd use them with 1st ed's "REF destroids" if they were ever brought into 2nd ed. i'd just drop the "X" from the Raider, and change the missile mecha over to "Shark" due to the overlap.

i do like the Macross names for the canon destroids though.


Still remember looking for those original Matchbox models when they first came out...first they were sold out in my area, then later I lost an entire order when the college mailroom got vandalized and, when ordering replacements, my original picks(the Excaliber/Tomahawk and the Gladiator/Spartan) were no longer available...had to settle for the Spartan/Phalanx and Invid Gurab(yes, the wimpiest of the entire line).

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Unread postPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 6:05 pm
  

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they crop up on ebay frequetly. i got a Tomahawk that way. been meaning to find some of the others at some point.

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Unread postPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:38 pm
  

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Do you think Palladium books would do a better job with Battletech?


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Unread postPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:19 pm
  

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gaby wrote:
Do you think Palladium books would do a better job with Battletech?

hell no.. i don;t think Palladium's approach to doing things would mesh well with the battletech setting.

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Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:23 am
  

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Jorel wrote:
Defender - Raidar X in old RPG, Rifleman in Battletech
Tomahawk - Excalibur in old RPG, Warhammer or Warhammer IIC in Battletech
Spartan - Gladiator in old RPG, Archer in Battletech
Phalanx - Spartan in old RPG, Longbow in Battletech
Monster - Mac II in old RPG, Behemoth in Batteldroids (precursor to Battletech)
VF-1A Valkyrie - Stinger in Battletech (Battloid Mode)
VF-1S Valkyrie - Wasp in Battletech (Battloid Mode)
VF-1A Valkyrie - Stinger LAM in Battletech (All three modes)
VF-1S Valkyrie - Wasp LAM in Battletech (All three modes)
Super VF-1S Valkyrie - Phoenix Hawk in Battletech (Battloid Mode)
Super VF-1S Valkyrie - Phoenix Hawk LAM in Battletech (All three modes)
Armoured Valkyrie - Crusader in Battletech (Battloid Mode)
Regult Tactical Battle Pod - Used as a pseudo basis for the Ostscout, Ostroc and Ostol
Glaug Officer Battlepod- Marauder and Maruader II in Battletech

Compiled by Jaymz


I like to think of the 1st ed names as the pilot and work crew nicknames for these machines.

You might want to know theve added more RT / Macross Mecha too BT. Operation rebirth gave us newer versions of the classics like the "Marauder IIC 2" its armed with two Heavy Large LASERs, two medium er pulse LASERs, and a Clan ER Large LASER." Theirs other loadouts as well. My Steel Viper pilot uses a Marauder IIC 2 armed with 7 Heavy Large LASERs and some LASER heatsinks. I call it "Purple Death."


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Unread postPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:31 pm
  

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You forgot the Ostscout, Ostroc and the Ostsol from Battletech; they were based of the of the Zentraedi Battle-Pods.

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actually the IIC's are totally new artwork, much like the reseen's introduced in Project Pheonix.

though later the original IIC's were given new reseen artwork as well, for an unrelated reaso. (the original artwork had been farmed out to an art studio, and when the rights went from FASAto catalyst games, there was some question as to whether the rights to those images came with the overall battletech rights, or not. the contracts involved were vague on the issue, so catalyst decided to err on the side of caution.)

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Unread postPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 9:08 pm
  

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glitterboy2098 wrote:
actually the IIC's are totally new artwork, much like the reseen's introduced in Project Pheonix.

though later the original IIC's were given new reseen artwork as well, for an unrelated reaso. (the original artwork had been farmed out to an art studio, and when the rights went from FASAto catalyst games, there was some question as to whether the rights to those images came with the overall battletech rights, or not. the contracts involved were vague on the issue, so catalyst decided to err on the side of caution.)



Project Phoenix art...*shudder*. The art belongs to the minimalist school of 'Okay, it's got the right number of arms and guns and it's easy to cast, so why wait any longer?'.

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Unread postPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 9:22 pm
  

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well, they had to make sure the macross related designs looked enough different.. while legally i think it's been said 80% the same is fine.. with art that % is even more subjective than normal so they went for as different as they could while still being visually related.

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Unread postPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:37 pm
  

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I've still got my Officer's Battle Pod, the only thing in the model/ toy series I ever bought.
I have a few metal minis for the BattleTech game, though, and always played a Marauder pilot.

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