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Shadow wrote:If a muatant had the power of animial metamorphisis (from heros unlimited) would he be able to transform into monsters in that time as long as they are not creatures of magic or supernatural creatures?


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So you're asking if, say, a cat mutant can turn into a wolf, then yes.

Turn into a monster? No...it is the power of ANIMAL metamorphosis. You can turn into animals only. So, a wolf is ok, a loup-garou(sp) is not. (Ok, that's going a little overboard since you did specifically exclude "supernatual" and creatures of magic," but still... :D )
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Borast wrote:So you're asking if, say, a cat mutant can turn into a wolf, then yes.

Turn into a monster? No...it is the power of ANIMAL metamorphosis. You can turn into animals only. So, a wolf is ok, a loup-garou(sp) is not. (Ok, that's going a little overboard since you did specifically exclude "supernatual" and creatures of magic," but still... :D )


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Nekira Sudacne wrote:
Borast wrote:So you're asking if, say, a cat mutant can turn into a wolf, then yes.

Turn into a monster? No...it is the power of ANIMAL metamorphosis. You can turn into animals only. So, a wolf is ok, a loup-garou(sp) is not. (Ok, that's going a little overboard since you did specifically exclude "supernatual" and creatures of magic," but still... :D )


A monster is nothing more than a dangoerous animal


No, in Palladium rules a monster is an intelligent (even if that intelligence is primitive and animalistic) and unnatural creature that merely has animal-like qualities. The HU power of Animal Metamorphosis only applies to normal natural animals, not monsters.
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Tinker Dragoon wrote:
Nekira Sudacne wrote:
Borast wrote:So you're asking if, say, a cat mutant can turn into a wolf, then yes.

Turn into a monster? No...it is the power of ANIMAL metamorphosis. You can turn into animals only. So, a wolf is ok, a loup-garou(sp) is not. (Ok, that's going a little overboard since you did specifically exclude "supernatual" and creatures of magic," but still... :D )


A monster is nothing more than a dangoerous animal


No, in Palladium rules a monster is an intelligent (even if that intelligence is primitive and animalistic) and unnatural creature that merely has animal-like qualities. The HU power of Animal Metamorphosis only applies to normal natural animals, not monsters.


dinos are called mosnters even though they're 100% natural and take and do MD
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Nekira Sudacne wrote:dinos are called mosnters even though they're 100% natural and take and do MD

if they were 100% natural then they wouldn't be mega-damage creatures.
they're obviously supernatural.....for some reason....
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Smiling_Bandit wrote:Example. The T-Rex in New West. It is the same darn critter running around all those millions of years ago. Then it is a completely natural animal native to earth. Folks call it a "monster" cause it eats people/cattle/small furry things that say "kupo". One could aruge that the mass difference would pose a problem though.

It cant be a "completely natural animal" because it's a mega-damage creature. On Rifts Earth, only supernatural beings are MD creatures. Pigs, cows, dogs, cats, and humans did not turn MD when the Rifts came. They are natural animals. Dinosaurs are not.
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Shadow wrote:And what about humans from wormwood, they are natural and they are MDC?

they are not natural. they are humans who've evolved from living on Wormwood for thousands of years.
just how psi-stalkers evolved from normal humans who adapted to Rifts Earth, the people of Wormwood have adapted to the harsh magic-rich environment of the Living Planet.
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I guess the key here is for the GM to keep a quart of common sense with him/her as a player character tries to copy animal forms. My rule of thumb is that as long as the animal/monster isn't supernatural in origin (such as a dragon) then it's all good.

However, one little wrinkle we're forgetting is that no matter what form the character takes, he/she still retains his/her S.D.C. and Hit Points... so you can look like a Spiny Ravager, sound like a Spiny Ravager, possibly even rip through things like a Spiny Ravager -- but unless you've got another power that gives you some MDC, you can't take hits like a Spiny Ravager. :demon:
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