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Questions Regarding Phoenixi

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Greetings,

I have several questions:

1/ Are Phoenixi lesser supernatural creatures? (I am tempted to say yes since creatures such as Lanotaur are confirmed to be lesser supernatural creatures)
2/ How often can the ability burst into flames be used since there seems to be no limit written?

For those who need to look them up Phoenixi can be found in Rifts Africa page 61

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Maybe include what book they are in and the page.
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In that Phoenixi are Creatures of Magic I'd say they're not subject to things like the Summon Lesser Being ritual, but could be targeted by a Summoner's Summon Pawn circle. The Burst into Flame ability can be turned on and off as needed, is selective in what is set alight, and frankly if I were a Phoenixi would only turn it off when there was a need for darkness. I could see using some sort of limit on the MDC/SDC it provides (if in Rifts or Fantasy, repectively), just to prevent it being renewed continuously.

I didn't know of Lanotaur being confirmed as lesser supernatural creatures. I'd love to read it if a source is handy.
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drewkitty ~..~ wrote:Maybe include what book they are in and the page.


Nuristas wrote:Greetings,

I have several questions:

1/ Are Phoenixi lesser supernatural creatures? (I am tempted to say yes since creatures such as Lanotaur are confirmed to be lesser supernatural creatures)
2/ How often can the ability burst into flames be used since there seems to be no limit written?

For those who need to look them up Phoenixi can be found in Rifts Africa page 61

Thank you for your feedback.
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sorry. I usually put that 1st
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drewkitty ~..~ wrote:sorry. I usually put that 1st


not an issue.
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Curbludgeon wrote:In that Phoenixi are Creatures of Magic I'd say they're not subject to things like the Summon Lesser Being ritual, but could be targeted by a Summoner's Summon Pawn circle. The Burst into Flame ability can be turned on and off as needed, is selective in what is set alight, and frankly if I were a Phoenixi would only turn it off when there was a need for darkness. I could see using some sort of limit on the MDC/SDC it provides (if in Rifts or Fantasy, repectively), just to prevent it being renewed continuously.

I didn't know of Lanotaur being confirmed as lesser supernatural creatures. I'd love to read it if a source is handy.


Rifter 15 has the spell soul leech where you drain the power from a lesser supernatural creature.
In the example of the evil rifter (castellan) it is mentioned it is draining the power from a lanotaur with Soul Leech.

Hence why I deduced that a Lanotaur is a lesser supernatural creature.

Would be great to have a list of them cause atm, it seems like so much... ask your GM how he sees a specific creature if it's not specified.
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I had never really looked much at that article. It's fun! It does have the same problem found with the Tolkeen Artifact Hunter in DB7, where Shifter variants have much lower starting PPE than the RUE Shifter, but edition tweaks are to be expected. I would note, though, that the Specialized Shifters article is listed as optional, and some people get really particular about that. Additionally, the description of Lanotaur in WB30 explicitly says they're not supernatural.
WB30 pg. 115 wrote:For a long time, many people believed the Lanotaur were, themselves, supernatural beings, but furher observations and study reveal otherwise. Truth is, Lanotaur are flesh and blood D-Bees
As for a definitive list of beings, supernatural or otherwise, I agree that it would be nice. I've off-and-on been compiling multiple lists for things like all the various insect-themed species/demons/spells, and it's easy to lose motivation just from all the flipping between sources and inconsistent descriptions.
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Curbludgeon wrote:I had never really looked much at that article. It's fun! It does have the same problem found with the Tolkeen Artifact Hunter in DB7, where Shifter variants have much lower starting PPE than the RUE Shifter, but edition tweaks are to be expected. I would note, though, that the Specialized Shifters article is listed as optional, and some people get really particular about that. Additionally, the description of Lanotaur in WB30 explicitly says they're not supernatural.
WB30 pg. 115 wrote:For a long time, many people believed the Lanotaur were, themselves, supernatural beings, but furher observations and study reveal otherwise. Truth is, Lanotaur are flesh and blood D-Bees
As for a definitive list of beings, supernatural or otherwise, I agree that it would be nice. I've off-and-on been compiling multiple lists for things like all the various insect-themed species/demons/spells, and it's easy to lose motivation just from all the flipping between sources and inconsistent descriptions.


Thanks for the information. I don't own that book (yet). I'll put it on the list of purchases at the store next time I'm ordering.
I'm just looking for a a lesser supernatural being to drain for MDC for a player in the group. She needs more MDC at this point in time so looking into that.
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It looks to me based on the discriptions that Pheonixi are more likely creatures of magic than supernatural beings.
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