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Unread postPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:29 pm
  

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This is a new year, and we have an unresolved situation. It is time to discuss our plans again. We currently have about 250 pages of material donated to the Rifter 0.1 Project, but we do not have authorization from Palladium to continue.

Sooooooooo, discuss.

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Unread postPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:43 am
  

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Weed out/alter any information from the submitted material that is a direct reprinting of anything "officially" palladium and release it as a fan-made netbook. So no reprinting of rules, no direct alterations of characters or materials from any of the books, and no conversions -- the usual stuff they have issue with. Without those things, then it is just a jumbo collection of fan creations. Also, it would probably have to be released under a different name than "The Rifter". Hold some kind of poll/contest for a new name.

Sadly, these days it seems Kevin only has eyes for his own projects.

Well, this is just one idea, and may be a bit extreme. We all want something officially sanctioned, but this just isn't Kevin's game, its ours too, so I am all about helping make this happen in whatever way.

As an alternative, you could collect up contracts from all the submitters -- having them turn over possession of their creations to you. Then do a bulk submission for the normal Rifter publication, if Kevin would take them like that.

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Unread postPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:23 pm
  

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Thank you for the input. Releasing the materials as a free document in line with the Palladium internet policy has been suggested, and the concensus is leaning in that direction. Each contributor, of course, owns his or her materials until given to Palladium, so a free release would be a up to the individual contributor. With over 250 pages of materials, we should have a nice sized ebook even if only some of the contributors decide to go forward with a free release. I might take you up on that offer. First, however, I want to tell Wayne personally what is happening.

I sent this e-mail to Wayne today...
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Hello Wayne,

It is that time again. It's time to discuss the next Rifter Zero. We had another meeting amongst the contributors, and we have reached a new consensus. Expect a phone call from me later today or this evening.

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Unread postPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:10 pm
  

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I tried yesterday evening and again this afternoon, but I have been unable to get Wayne on the phone yet. I would like to try, a little more foreforcefully, again tomorrow. After that, we'll just have to cut our loses (lost time that is) and cut Wayne out of the decision making process.

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Unread postPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:57 pm
  

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Too bad. I just noticed this. It would have been cool and useful. Maybe it is too much info for them right now.

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Unread postPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:38 pm
  

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Actually, I just minutes ago received an e-mail response from Wayne. He wants me to call him next week.

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Unread postPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:51 pm
  

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Well if you go ahead with the net publication angle and not an officially sanctioned "book"per se (and just to remind people the Rifter material is not actually "official" material for the most part) why not call it The Gifter as someone had suggested before since it is a Rifter but free?

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Unread postPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:29 pm
  

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I would be all for helping out with the net publishing. I totally got some time to help put towards building a website or compiling everything into pdfs should someone need a hand.

I actually wonder, however... if palladium would be opposed to fan-publications? Probably a much bigger task than anyone here is prepared to take, but I am flashing back to those good ol days in gaming stores when you could find those little fan publications for DnD adventures, dungeons, and materials. Bah, I can dream. Those kind of stores are too rare these days.

I think a solidly built website for collecting submissions and publishing them into nice 100ish page pdf netbooks would be a nice way to go (or use this forum - I recommend both). Release a new one every time you get a 100 pages of material or once every quarter, or so, like the real rifter.

As for the name, The Gifter sounds... a little too...not right somehow... Like it is a book about Christmas.
Maybe something like "The dRifter". You could write the editorial blurbs from the point of view of a vagabond called "the drifter" recalling the things he has seen in his travels. I dunno...maybe a poll, contest, or something. heh

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Unread postPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:35 pm
  

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darkanx wrote:
I would be all for helping out with the net publishing. I totally got some time to help put towards building a website or compiling everything into pdfs should someone need a hand.

I actually wonder, however... if palladium would be opposed to fan-publications? Probably a much bigger task than anyone here is prepared to take, but I am flashing back to those good ol days in gaming stores when you could find those little fan publications for DnD adventures, dungeons, and materials. Bah, I can dream. Those kind of stores are too rare these days.

I think a solidly built website for collecting submissions and publishing them into nice 100ish page pdf netbooks would be a nice way to go (or use this forum - I recommend both). Release a new one every time you get a 100 pages of material or once every quarter, or so, like the real rifter.

As for the name, The Gifter sounds... a little too...not right somehow... Like it is a book about Christmas.
Maybe something like "The dRifter". You could write the editorial blurbs from the point of view of a vagabond called "the drifter" recalling the things he has seen in his travels. I dunno...maybe a poll, contest, or something. heh


The dRifter....I liek that. Make him a multidimensional drifter to boot :D

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Unread postPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:50 pm
  

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darkanx wrote:
I actually wonder, however... if palladium would be opposed to fan-publications? Probably a much bigger task than anyone here is prepared to take, but I am flashing back to those good ol days in gaming stores when you could find those little fan publications for DnD adventures, dungeons, and materials. Bah, I can dream. Those kind of stores are too rare these days.


They would not go for that.

darkanx wrote:
I think a solidly built website for collecting submissions and publishing them into nice 100ish page pdf netbooks would be a nice way to go (or use this forum - I recommend both). Release a new one every time you get a 100 pages of material or once every quarter, or so, like the real rifter.


This would work and sounds like a nice idea.

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Unread postPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:50 pm
  

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There is already a fan publication entitled Gifter. I was leaning towards Grifter, but there seems to already be a Canadian publication entitled Grifter Magazine. Drifter appeals to me. I will have to check to see if that name is bbeing used already.

As for a website, we would likely just hand out files by request and give copies to Tenchuu for hosting permannetly at NexusNine.net. He has been very generous about hosting articles like that in the past, most recently my Court of Tarot Errata.

As for the work involved, it would mostly be editing out stuff that would not pass the Palladium Internet Policy. For example, I recycled some artwork from Boxed Nightmares 1 when editing the BN2 sourcebook for Rifter 0.1.
Wayne has expressed opostition in the past to simply giving away the material, but if he flat out doesn't have time to deal with it, we feel right now that giving these materials away beats doing nothing at all.

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Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:38 am
  

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Awesome. Sounds like a plan! I have so much stuff I can tweak/finish to submit for these. I have been remiss to submit my stuff officially, so I have just been sitting on years of ideas. Should you change your mind about the website, or want help with layouts, I am happy to volunteer some time. Palladium has needed an injection of fanbase lately, so happy to do my part to help with this.

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Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:42 pm
  

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I was asked to call back Wednesday morning.

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Unread postPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:33 am
  

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Let us know how that turns out.

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