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Unread postPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:30 pm
  

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(ideas that came up in another topic)

I can see the use of ivory sourced from different animals might have different magic effects, from the ones listed in the TW List. I would expect the eco-mage ( the biological TW in one of the Dino swamp book) would be able to draw these alternate powers/magic out in their magic items better then the tech oriented TWs.

BStorming: Walrus: swim like a fish. Saber tooth cat: extra blood loss damage, cleanse. Narwal: swim (superior) or *shrugs*. Unicorn: purge: self/other, purification, PPE battery/self PPE regen. Pachyderm: same as TW list. warthog/while pigs: ???? Hippopotamus: weight of duty/SH endurance/
Maybe with each: summon&control <animal type>

pearls: Offhand I can't think of any alt nat. pearl types but they are mentioned in the TW list. Maybe it could be a terroir difference that makes them .....*shrugs*
Dragon pearls(MC): adds Chi damage to the magic item.

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 Post subject: Re: Ivory and pearls
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Well materially at least the ivory is identical regardless of animal, though from a magic perspective the animal itself might have an impact on the spells itself. Though the gem list doesn't seem to consider other types of Ivory sources, so RAW would seem to dispute this idea. Not that it isn't bad for a house rule as it requires the TW/EW/Stone Master to do some research on just what type of Ivory they have actually found.

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would expect the eco-mage ( the biological TW in one of the Dino swamp book

FYI World Book 26: Dinosaur Swamp (Eco-Wizard OCC)


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 Post subject: Re: Ivory and pearls
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I was thinking more for Eco-Wizard.

TWs would just use their list, cause they are tech oriented in their magic item building.
Stone Masters and Crystal Mages would not have access to them because they are 'not rocks' and 'not crystals'.. Well...maybe fossils would work for their powers but that would take a big GM ruling for that to take place.

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 Post subject: Re: Ivory and pearls
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In the same vein, you may have to consider, rightfully or wrongfully, bezoars(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bezoar).
Not as glamorous as ivory or pearls, they nevertheless commanded great value amongst early alchemists and holistic physicians, who ascribed many healing properties to them, especially curative properties against poisons.
Now, I'd dismiss such things as porcupine and beaver bezoars, but a maxpary , moloch, or.....great galloping gastrointestinal gastroliths!...dragon...bezoars would have some small power and no inconsiderable value

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 Post subject: Re: Ivory and pearls
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drewkitty ~..~ wrote:
pearls: Offhand I can't think of any alt nat. pearl types but they are mentioned in the TW list. Maybe it could be a terroir difference that makes them .....*shrugs*
Dragon pearls(MC): adds Chi damage to the magic item.


freshwater vs salt water, colors, shape..
https://cpaa.org/pages/types-of-pearls
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl

in terms of color, you have in rough order of rarity, White, Black, Pink, Blue, champagne, green, black and even purple.
you also have Baroque Pearls which are not spherical.

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 Post subject: Re: Ivory and pearls
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I agree that the most likely magical properties for pearls would be Negate Poisons/Toxins, related to them being made of calcium carbonate. The rest(color, shape, origin) would be mere windowdressing/salesmanship in driving up the price.

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 Post subject: Re: Ivory and pearls
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taalismn wrote:
I agree that the most likely magical properties for pearls would be Negate Poisons/Toxins, related to them being made of calcium carbonate. The rest(color, shape, origin) would be mere windowdressing/salesmanship in driving up the price.

What about 'mother of pearl'?
Same as pearls…or something different?

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 Post subject: Re: Ivory and pearls
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drewkitty ~..~ wrote:
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Stone Masters and Crystal Mages would not have access to them because they are 'not rocks' and 'not crystals'.. Well...maybe fossils would work for their powers but that would take a big GM ruling for that to take place.


How about coplites? :P

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