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Unread postPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:17 pm
  

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How do you guys feel about the topic at hand? Can a greater familiar learn to cast spells if the mage is willing to teach it, and it has the capacity to learn spells or it has a few spells already and no mention of if it can learn new spells or not? Before you ask, this is something that I am working on for a Rifter and I would rather not spoil it.


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Unread postPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:52 pm
  

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Sometimes.

Ones I would allow to learn spells (from PFRPG, 2nd edition)

Deevils, Devilkin, Fiends, Imps

All of these have relatively extensive magic abilities, rather than "here is a small selection of spells that are in line with their other abilities."

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as per the spell: no, as per the familiar upgradign rules...not unless the spell casting ability is imbune into the familiar.

other wise.....
the cut offs I would impose on even 'concidering' if a particuler familiar can learn magic are these to things: Does the familiar have human level inteligence or better?, and: does the familiar have the PPE to case spells?

After those two are answered in the positive, then I would evaluate the character and the player's outlook for the char. It would be after this (as a GM) I would decide if I would allow it for that familiar for that game.

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Unread postPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:17 pm
  

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Rifter went on hiatus after 84, so if that's your sticking point feel free to spill. I don't really have a problem with it, or with related tasks like using the PPE of a Talisman to activate a TW device.


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Unread postPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:43 pm
  

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Can your greater familiar who can cast spells get its own familiar?

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Unread postPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:13 pm
  

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dreicunan wrote:
Can your greater familiar who can cast spells get its own familiar?

Yes.


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Unread postPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:39 pm
  

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Curbludgeon wrote:
Rifter went on hiatus after 84, so if that's your sticking point feel free to spill. I don't really have a problem with it, or with related tasks like using the PPE of a Talisman to activate a TW device.

Well, dsmn. That sorta sucks, but okay. I am going to be making a monster familiar spell. Mind you, you need to make a deal with said monster if you have an intelligent monster. If not, you can make a will/ME save.


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Was this covered in a Rifter or the Nightbane books?


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Unread postPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:02 pm
  

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Just have them earn enough XP per the class changing rules to be a 1st level wizard


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