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 Post subject: Humans from Wormwood
Unread postPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 5:51 pm
  

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3 quick questions. Humans from Wormwood are minor m.d.c. beings. Do they also regenerate faster than a normal human? Second, do they have supernatural strength? And third, do they have supernatural endurance? Thanks for your responses.


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 Post subject: Re: Humans from Wormwood
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grimmhold wrote:
3 quick questions. Humans from Wormwood are minor m.d.c. beings. Do they also regenerate faster than a normal human? Second, do they have supernatural strength? And third, do they have supernatural endurance? Thanks for your responses.


Natives of Wormwood are mega-damage creatures, but human in every other way.

Page 45 Wormwood.

So no, no, and no.

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 Post subject: Re: Humans from Wormwood
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Amusingly enough, Wormwood human fist fights are basically tapping each other.


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 Post subject: Re: Humans from Wormwood
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The default rate of healing for MDC creatures was 2D6 MDC per day, so yes they do heal faster. That's an average of 4. Even with proper medical care I think humans only heal 2 HP / 4 SDC per day, unless you're playing N&SS/TMNT where you heal SDC every hour.


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 Post subject: Re: Humans from Wormwood
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Cranus wrote:
Amusingly enough, Wormwood human fist fights are basically tapping each other.

Actually...

http://palladiumbooks.com/background-and-settings

"10 In Wormwood since everyone is a Mega-damage being does that mean physical attacks cause no damage, ie. a punch or normal sword. This seems to imply that people of wormwood can beat each other up till the cows come home and only suffer fatigue from failing away at each other
Answer: Wormwoodians are mega-damage beings in reference to SDC objects from other dimensions. Swords and fists will inflict standard damage within their own dimension."


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 Post subject: Re: Humans from Wormwood
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So based on that a Wormwood human can beat a Wormwood human to death with an MDC Ironwood stick, but couldn't scratch a Vanguard Brawler with the same stick? For that matter, an Earth human could beat a Wormwood human to death with the same stick?

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 Post subject: Re: Humans from Wormwood
Unread postPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:48 am
  

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I take it to mean SDC creatures do SDC damage, forex 1d4 for a punch. When wielding an SDC object they do SDC damage. When wielding an MDC object, they do not do MDC damage. ETA: Weapons explicitly doing MDC damage ate an exception,forex vibroblades or rune weapons.

MDC creatures do MDC damage, 1d4 MDC for a punch. No bonus damage, no supernatural PS.When wielding an MDC object, they do MDC damage. When wielding an SDC object, they do SDC damage.


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 Post subject: Re: Humans from Wormwood
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Just run the whole setting in SDC. It works far better.

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 Post subject: Re: Humans from Wormwood
Unread postPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:02 am
  

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Thorr-kan, the problem, at least for me is MDC guy does MDC damage and SDC guy does SDC damage takes SNPS/strength level out of the equation. What happens when your MDC Wormwood guy (remember, Woodwood guy has regular PS) punches an SDC guy? What happens when Wormwood guy punches MDC armor?

My earlier example with the Ironwood enchanted stick is a MDC item that does SDC with normal PS. You normally need higher level PS to do MDC with with an Ironwood item.

Thanks Braden, you have a point.

I remember years back we had a Woodwood character pop up and did something weird in our group using AR. As I recall we gave the WW guy super high levels of SDC(100 SDC for each of his MDC points), and a high AR(maybe 18?). That way two WW guys could kill each other, but it will take a LOOOOONG time.

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 Post subject: Re: Humans from Wormwood
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RockJock wrote:
Thorr-kan, the problem, at least for me is MDC guy does MDC damage and SDC guy does SDC damage takes SNPS/strength level out of the equation. What happens when your MDC Wormwood guy (remember, Woodwood guy has regular PS) punches an SDC guy? What happens when Wormwood guy punches MDC armor?

My earlier example with the Ironwood enchanted stick is a MDC item that does SDC with normal PS. You normally need higher level PS to do MDC with with an Ironwood item.

Thanks Braden, you have a point.

I remember years back we had a Woodwood character pop up and did something weird in our group using AR. As I recall we gave the WW guy super high levels of SDC(100 SDC for each of his MDC points), and a high AR(maybe 18?). That way two WW guys could kill each other, but it will take a LOOOOONG time.

That solution (just make all the mdc super high sdc with a high natural AR to beat) seems like a decent solution to all MDC. You could set a damage number (say 80) that bypasses the AR automatically.

I also have often thought that a damage threshold would have been a better solution for mdc.


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 Post subject: Re: Humans from Wormwood
Unread postPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:58 am
  

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RockJock wrote:
What happens when your MDC Wormwood guy (remember, Woodwood guy has regular PS) punches an SDC guy?

He does 1d4 MD. No strength bonus to damage.

RockJock wrote:
What happens when Wormwood guy punches MDC armor?

He does 1d4 MD. No strength bonus to damage.


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 Post subject: Re: Humans from Wormwood
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MDC damage without enhanced strength just doesn't jive for me. If it works that way then a SDC human should be able to pick up and MDC stick and do MDC damage.

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 Post subject: Re: Humans from Wormwood
Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:04 am
  

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RockJock wrote:
MDC damage without enhanced strength just doesn't jive for me. If it works that way then a SDC human should be able to pick up and MDC stick and do MDC damage.
Perhaps it would make more sense if you think of the wormwood humans as having been warped by the planet to be able to do mdc damage to mdc things. In other words, it works because magic.


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 Post subject: Re: Humans from Wormwood
Unread postPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:05 am
  

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Like I said, we did it with the SDC/AR trick in my group. You can easily go with WW people doing MDC to everything magically, though I would just go ahead and give them some kind of enhanced PS/SNPS if I was going that route. That way WW people fit in with the rest of the Megaverse. You can just as easily go with the original, as written that WW humans can't really hurt each other via fistacuffs. You can still kill hurt somebody unarmed, but not as easily (sleeper hold for example). Or you can go with the Q&A answer.

I get that the Q&A says a punch from a WW guy or SDC sword does MDC damage in their dimension. It also opens up about as many problems as it solves because it only talking about the WW dimension. Will an SDC sword or punch damage a WW human on Rifts earth? Will a SDC M2 .50 Cal now do gigantic MDC in WW? To muddy things even more the book talks about the Apok doing MDC damage to supernatural baddies with SDC weapons, AND doing only SDC punch damage to mortals, which to me would include WW humans.

As long as your group plays Wormwoodians with some internal consistency it doesn't really matter which version you use. That's one of the advantages in PB games.

I have not gone back and reread Wordwood in ages, so I might be wrong, but I don't think there is any mention of SDC guns, but they do have magic TW flintlocks.

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