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mech798

So a quick questoin--why did the robotech source material make the satellite so small in comparison to Macross? It seems to be a decision with little logic behind it.

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Intro: When the SDF-1 crashed, one thing that became plain was that the mysterious power source, protoculture, that existed on the ship was not infinite, especially since the UEF never found the hidden matrices. As part of this, a long-term project was initiated, project Power-Seed, to find a way to...

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So, I was going through all my old stuff, and I came across robotech material. It's a bit... Saddening. Robotech the RPG, at least the Palladium RPG is rapidly fading into the past. nobody in my area plays it (hell, few know of it). So most of my books are going into storage or possibly, one day, Eb...

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I think that was a big problem, and it of course wasn't Palladium's fault. I think it's pretty clear that between them, UEEG and genesis pits were setting up for some interesting stuff, and a lot of plans got cut completely short by the decision to pull the license.

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Now granted, Shadow Chronicles suffered from A. HG doing very little with it, B. evidently having a lot more editorial control, and C. the license getting pulled. But for all that it gave us such "gems" as Lancer's Rockers, I cannot help but feel that the first edition had a lot more room ...

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The only other useful or relevant organizational divisions of non-canon material are by series or by their origin (author/publisher). Trying to assign non-canon materials to unofficial "universes" is an arbitrary and capricious exercise at best, since the material is so internally contrad...

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the problem is, well, to put it a bit crassly, You have two choices to get the number of young people we see. We don't actually see THAT many young people... you could easily argue that the population is very low and we're seeing a significant cross-section of it. Which is actually really depressin...

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The factory sat, if we go by Macross scales, could comfortably fit every building ever built on erth into it's version of a closet. (There's a reason why Macross is more or less post-scaricity, given how many they have). The only shock is the idea that Scott never experienced weather, because you co...

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The problem is that within the anime itself, there are tremendously contractidoroy bits of evidence for the zentraadi bombardment. On the one hand, we have Rick being amazed at flowers growing outside a reclamation zone. On the other hand, we have Khyron's ship in a jungle. The first problem is that...

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The biggest problem is that in robotech a lot of what drove Casablanca doesn't exist, because 7you can't generally negotiate with the Aliens. The Masters? Wanted you dead. The Haydonites? Ditto. The only power that could be negotiated with was the zentraedi, and with no canon human-ruled nations oth...

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True but they'd also be looking at their market. Some people would buy the books just for the information. Granted, a lot of Robotech fans bought the RPG as a sort of ersatz tech manual and artbook... Though since Big West has announced it plans to release official artbooks in the west, I suspect t...

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I think turning the EBSIS into a stereotypical evil empire was a bad choice, but OTH, at least a lot of the Palladium products between the Macross and Southern Cross eras, did give the players stuff to do that wasn't solely "shoot up renegade zentradi. Shoot up more renegade zentraedi, etc.&qu...

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Plus in Robotech, Earths surviving population wasn't limited to lowrise towns in the Northwest United States. We just don't see it because the characters don't go there. They're a bit more spread out after the Invid invasion, but no... there were only a handful of towns in the entire world after th...

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Evidently there's been a major breakthrough in negotiations between Big West and HG. It's reported that HG will stop opposing worldwide distribution of Macross media and properties, while Big West affirms their right to the Tatsanuko properties they used. in addition, Big West will not oppose distri...

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Studio execs looking at the brand's reception in its native industry are naturally going to have some serious misgivings about investing in Robotech at all when they notice that the overwhelming majority of feedback related to Robotech is negative. Not just from the far more numerous fans of the va...

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If Sony ever get that movie on the rolls, they will probably also have considered the possibility of going for new and expanded universe material. Especially since the brand itself might benefit, from a leap outside of the current debate. But this, in itself, must certainly be a difficult artistic ...

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So you're saying ⋅ HG had no right to the Macross trademarks, ⋅ but was given them anyway, ⋅ but still can't use them in film productions? Do I understand that correctly? I guess that's all possible, but it seems rather complicated. HG wasn't given the MAcross trademar...

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I don't know which "recent legal proceedings" you mean, but even if true, would "mak[ing] the differences even greater than normal" really make the project undoable? Yes. The World Intellectual Proprietary Organization shows just how many nations recognize Big West--and most rec...

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The movie is still "in discussion", but we can only guess what the effect of the whole hollywood schedule, being ported "one year later", has done financially to the project. As a rule, purely fictive developments tend not to be affected by real world scheduling circumstances. N...

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I don't play as much any more, so i don't stick my head in very often, but is anyone doing anything with Robotech? There was, I think one book published for SW after Palladium lost the license, and that was it. The comics came and went, and really weren't liked that much, and I haven't heard anythin...

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It also further reduces the chance of any kind of movie--because HG now cannot give Sony the rights they want--those are bound up in Big West, and again, if the movie is different enough to not trigger potential suits, it's likely so generic that having the "robotech" name to attach to it ...

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Why would Sony do that? Sony isn't interested because Robotech is a dead IP that has been mishandled to the point wheret he major fans probably wouldn't even be able to fill a mid-sized auditorium. Sony's IP's include (not exhaustive, at all): The Karate Kid, Ghostbusters, Spider-Man, Jumanji, Stuar...

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EDIT : Ok... Coming back from the AX2019 video, referenced in another topic here, while I was correcting this previous post. I thus have, on the other hand, that HG is announcing that they are "moving forward", still "planning the movie", are encouraged to "resume animation...

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Teh biggest problem is that such a strategy is in the "must spend money to make money" category. Right now, the only current property that is known widely at all is the new Robotech rpg. But you need more--books, comics, either traditional or webcomic, stuff to get the name out there, stuf...

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considering that RT3000 and Academy can be summed up as "bad robotech fanfic", i don't think that using them as a guide as to what HG can do is good idea. especially since the kickstarter for academy wasn't to produce the show, but to develop it , which is something that few fans will wan...

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A franchise will not die... yet. (They didn't dare announce for how long it was this time.) It's still pretty much dead... HG still has no plans to continue the story of the Robotech animated series, and as HG claimed this is an extension of their existing agreement the live action movie is almost ...

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Yeah, well, this is a forum that, while technically covering both properties (because of the Macross II RPG) has historically been a center for discussion by Robotech fans. Between that and the fact that the actual end is still roughly two years away, my problem was with the celebratory note being ...

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The question of what system to use comes up, and should depend on what you want-I'd use M&M's mecha and manga, if you want a fast moving system that prizes speed more than tactical "Accuracy" while Mekton Z would be good for the more simulationist players.

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Guys, I wouldn't hold my breath for anyone else to get the license--because as of 2021, HG will likely lose any rights to well, anything other than the name robotech and the associated story. So any theoretical game, wouldn't be able to use anything from the series. No VFs, zentraedi, anything like ...

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I heard that all the Robotech stock will have to be liquidated. I expect there will be a sale soon on the web site, but after that is done do you think the remaining unsold stock will be auctioned off or just sent to a landfill? After the rights expire, it would have be a landfill, so I wouldn't wa...

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So this will leave us with the not-so-great comic and... what?

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And more importantly, when we talk about the IP that HG can actually use without fear, how many movies/series, etc, have been done for Southern Cross and New Generation? The Japanese source series were largely failures.

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i have generally figured that the refits would be solely internal.. plumbing and wiring modified to let human scale stuff interface in, human scale doorways added to the hatches.. then walkways, platforms, and prefab buildings used to build up living spaces and the like in rooms and hallways. some ...

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Also, note that the masters, and even the fleet commanders, aren't micromanaging things. My bet is that zentraedi "Ship culture" varies wildly. Breetai's crew is going to be lot different then Khyron's crew.

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Got my Japanese fan book about zentradi ships and they had this little gem in it: It's here since the forum won't let us use image tags. Quite a nice little designa nd something that, especially given the UEEG's relative lack of resources compared to Macross settings, might have been a good idea. Gr...

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Well, I'll be picking the zentradi warship book up. I was in Vegas over the weekend and had some good luck with the slots, converting five bucks to 60 bucks. (tip for everyone-- how do you win at Vegas? The moment you get ahead, you walk away. That's how you win in Vegas. All of my friends ended up ...

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And I can't get it. A doujin (clean!) group called Fanky put out a series of fleet books for MAcross, from zentraedi to earth forces. They were, as with most doujin very small runs, and the cheapest I could find them for was 40 dollars, which is a bit much. But they had lots of stuff on how the UEG ...

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I am going to go with the gravity/atmosphere issues. Yeah, thinking about it, I know that even helicopters have evidently had problems in Afghanistan due to the altitude of some areas. Noiw, granted, witht he kind of power you get out of protoculture, a direct flying aerodyhne shouldn't be too diff...

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The Southern Cross Era. The Southern Cross era was both a golden time and a time of shrinking authority for the Association. On the one hand, unlike the UEG under the leadership of Gloval and the Hunters, the Southern Cross and new UEG was content to accept the Association as a legitimate “non-geogr...

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Because obviously hover is a mature technology, with the hovertanks. Now, I know the real answer-- because new generatoin was a different anime and we want to make the Silverback look like it came from the same design genesis as the cyclone. But what in setting reason could justify this, especially ...

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Which is singularly unfortunate, given how much of the proposed campaigns for the UEEF book, you know, are sort of a robotech version of island hopping with veritechs, in space. But right now, we've got one cruiser class (tristar), one zentraedi destroyer and flagship designs-- and for the REF, two ...

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To some extent, though I don't hae any of the original material for it. (Where was its write up put?). But the main difference is I wanted to aovid the "This is team evil." Parts of the Association sell mecha to enemies of the UEG--who may or may not be bad guys, but other parts of it sell...

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Normally, organizations are either allies or enemies to the good guys— not both. I decided to try my hand at making a third party that could be both. Introduction: The Merchants Association was formed in the immediate aftermath of the Rain of Death—while most of humanity died, more than a few wealth...

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The best tactic for the UEEF would be to use the carrot, not the stick-- lots of people have mecha-- how many have functioning hospitals? Power plants? roads? The image of a bunch of alpha's using mecha sized shovels to lay a new roadbed sounds funny, but if it gets people thinking "hey this UE...

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Okay, the UEEF has a problem. 1. A lot of their firepower is concentrated in cyclones, especially in the later years. 2. But a lot of their space lift ranges from Horizon-Ts which are large and unarmed, to the really big lifters, which are best suited for landing large formations--not an organic squ...

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A big questoin is how many people are in the UEEF offworld. the number of colonies is left very limited, and so earth might still have the larger populatin, especially since the Invid didn't seem much into actively chasing people down and I expect after the SC debacle, a lot of people took off from ...

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The Post Rain era: The period between the Rain of Death and the Rise of the Southern Cross was considered the “Wild West” era for prospectors. Many ships were exposed, few governments had any real authority beyond their cities and many settlements desperately needed resources. While money was short,...

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I'll be getting into this a bit moe, but I used this to justify some groups for my invid invasion and beyond period. Intro: Tens of thousands, perhaps more, zentraedi ships crashed into the earth after the fall of the Grand Fleet. Thankfully, most of them fell in a more or less controlled manner (ho...

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Arnie100 wrote:Would a shadow-equipped variant for special ops be feasible?

You run into the problem of the downwash of hte hover jets, which are incredibly visible. OTH, this doesn't seem to be an issue with veritechs, so we might just fluff it as one of those facts that robotech physical laws politely ignore.

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So, one of hte best vehicles in the UEEF book is the Archon-- mainly because, well, it answers the question of "What is keeping up with all your cyclones, that is also touch enough that it can't be vaproized by a harsh glance." But, that being said, what varients do you think there are? Re...

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