D-Bees of North America - Questions/Comments..

AzathothXy · Unread post by **AzathothXy** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:04 am

Just watch out for the Lanotaur cyber-knights.

AzathothXy · Unread post by **AzathothXy** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:41 am

Burulovesyou wrote:
AzathothXy wrote:Just watch out for the Lanotaur cyber-knights.

Player asks for that and I get to explain to him the difference between a rcc and a race

The Cyberknight book mentions that there may be one around.

Princedarkstorm · Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:52 pm

CosmoKnight would be cool as well !

Talavar · Unread post by **Talavar** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:16 am

Wasn't the lanotaur hunter cyber-knight basically a fake? (ie., calling itself a cyber-knight, but being evil and not actually having the OCC - I mean, a lanotaur hunter can also get psi-sword, so one could pull off the deception fairly well)

I can't remember for the life of me where I got this though - maybe I made it up.

AzathothXy · Unread post by **AzathothXy** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:56 am

Talavar wrote:Wasn't the lanotaur hunter cyber-knight basically a fake? (ie., calling itself a cyber-knight, but being evil and not actually having the OCC - I mean, a lanotaur hunter can also get psi-sword, so one could pull off the deception fairly well)

I can't remember for the life of me where I got this though - maybe I made it up.

The book says he claims to be a cyberknight, but knows if he is or is a fake.

Princedarkstorm · Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:27 pm

True .

Pepsi Jedi · Unread post by **Pepsi Jedi** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:27 pm

When ever I read those guys I got a distinct "Predator" Theme from them.

Princedarkstorm · Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:34 pm

True .
Same here .

Seneca · Unread post by **Seneca** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 4:47 pm

I just picked this book up and love it, but the Bayou Ursines desciption left me with a few questions.

What in the world is going on in Louisiana and what is a Crull?

The Galactus Kid · Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:17 pm

Seneca wrote:I just picked this book up and love it, but the Bayou Ursines desciption left me with a few questions.

What in the world is going on in Louisiana and what is a Crull?

You are going to have to wait for Rifts: Delta Blues

Seneca · Unread post by **Seneca** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:31 pm

Aww.... Foiled by a teaser paragraph again

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The Galactus Kid · Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:22 pm

PlayerThree wrote:Where can I get some more art on Amana?

If there is one thing I want out of this book, it's more art on them. It's not that the artist did a bad job, in fact it's a fantastic picture, but rather that it doesn't really highlight the look of the Amana, especially the head, as much as I'd like (the sentence structure there was bad, I know.) Not to mention, the description really doesn't detail them as much as I'd like, in terms of physical appearance and features.

Other than that, phenomenal book.

The book really tried to pack as much info in it as possible, so there wasn't really as much room for art as much as we would like. I'm guessing that there might be more art the more the races are used in other books.

Jason Richards · Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:06 pm

PlayerThree wrote:Where can I get some more art on Amana?

If there is one thing I want out of this book, it's more art on them. It's not that the artist did a bad job, in fact it's a fantastic picture, but rather that it doesn't really highlight the look of the Amana, especially the head, as much as I'd like (the sentence structure there was bad, I know.) Not to mention, the description really doesn't detail them as much as I'd like, in terms of physical appearance and features.

Other than that, phenomenal book.

I second the above post, but DO agree that more art would be awesome. It takes everything in me to not run out and commission a bunch of stuff from whatever artists illustrate my work, ESPECIALLY new alien races. The art in D-Bees is really top notch across the board, second only to (perhaps) the new Robotech Books.

The Galactus Kid · Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:14 am

Jason Richards wrote:
PlayerThree wrote:Where can I get some more art on Amana?

If there is one thing I want out of this book, it's more art on them. It's not that the artist did a bad job, in fact it's a fantastic picture, but rather that it doesn't really highlight the look of the Amana, especially the head, as much as I'd like (the sentence structure there was bad, I know.) Not to mention, the description really doesn't detail them as much as I'd like, in terms of physical appearance and features.

Other than that, phenomenal book.

I second the above post, but DO agree that more art would be awesome. It takes everything in me to not run out and commission a bunch of stuff from whatever artists illustrate my work, ESPECIALLY new alien races. The art in D-Bees is really top notch across the board, second only to (perhaps) the new Robotech Books.

I would have to agree with this. I think the art is fantastic. Of all of my races, I think I like the Slurmph the best, but everything else is awesome too.

Jason Richards · Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:17 pm

the art for my Dramin and Roane couldn't have been more perfect. The Iktek was also sweet but I wish could have been bigger to display its scale.

love that book. why haven't we done another one again? I forget.

The Galactus Kid · Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:17 am

Jason Richards wrote:the art for my Dramin and Roane couldn't have been more perfect. The Iktek was also sweet but I wish could have been bigger to display its scale.

love that book. why haven't we done another one again? I forget.

I know, right? alas...

Library Ogre · Unread post by **Library Ogre** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:05 pm

The Galactus Kid wrote:
Jason Richards wrote:the art for my Dramin and Roane couldn't have been more perfect. The Iktek was also sweet but I wish could have been bigger to display its scale.

love that book. why haven't we done another one again? I forget.

I know, right? alas...

I blame Sinsapaugh.

Levi · Unread post by **Levi** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:28 am

Funny, I was thinking the same thing over the last few days. It was 3 years ago at the POH we purposed D-Bees. It was published two years ago at the last POH. And despite a lot of talk about doing another freelancer project we never made a plan.

Fear not, I have ideas to share again. And a new project or two could be born...

Reguoc · Unread post by **Reguoc** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:41 pm

QUick Question on Nuhr Dwarves. On Pg 150 it states that the Nuhr Dwarf Mystic Smith is roughly the equivalent of the Mystic Kuznya from Mystic Russia. I have a gamer that is argueing the "roughly equivalent" portion to justify major revisions to the abilities of the Nuhr version. Per the write up is there supposed to be any actual variation from the Kuznya (other than the nuhr black powder gear)? Or can the Nuhr craft all of the same gear and do they have the same class abilities?

Carl Gleba · Unread post by **Carl Gleba** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:42 pm

Reguoc wrote:QUick Question on Nuhr Dwarves. On Pg 150 it states that the Nuhr Dwarf Mystic Smith is roughly the equivalent of the Mystic Kuznya from Mystic Russia. I have a gamer that is argueing the "roughly equivalent" portion to justify major revisions to the abilities of the Nuhr version. Per the write up is there supposed to be any actual variation from the Kuznya (other than the nuhr black powder gear)? Or can the Nuhr craft all of the same gear and do they have the same class abilities?

Well basically it is a Nuhr Dwarf Mystic Kuznya. If it were a human they would get all the MK abilities, so with a Nuhr Dwarf, your going to have a very powerful character who can make some powerful items. Now just because they can make all these items doesn't mean they have the time to make them or even have all the materials.

As for the class abilities you as the GM are going to have to wing it. Do what is balanced for your game. I've always been of the opinion that its the GM's game and the GM has the final say. This includes gear as well. Heck if the player wanted to play this combo so bad i would make part of the adventure them getting the gear especially the smithing equipment.

Good luck :ok:

Carl

Balabanto · Unread post by **Balabanto** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:30 pm

The only time I used a Lanotaur, it was an NPC. I expected him to live, but no, he got critted by multiple zombies, and DIED.

When the battle was done, the PC's SOLD his lesser rune weapon, becoming FAR wealthier than 2nd level characters should ever become. Serves me right.

GT · Unread post by GT » Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:05 am

The Lost Ones should be put back in the reprintings.

Just Cuz!

Dunia · Unread post by **Dunia** » Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:31 am

I great book, though some of the aliens will never see the light of day in my campaigns, others will be an reoccuring cool thing. 3.5/5 overall.

The only thing I really lack and that should had been put into the book is a experience chart for those races that are R.C.Cs

DtMK · Unread post by **DtMK** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:33 pm

GT wrote:The Lost Ones should be put back in the reprintings.

Just Cuz!

Hear hear! I LOVE the Lost Ones, try giving them HP/SDC stats for SDC worlds too, given that the Dreamer was first sighted on the BtS world, it would be perfect.

Danger · Unread post by **Danger** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:52 am

Mark Hall wrote:
The Galactus Kid wrote:
Jason Richards wrote:the art for my Dramin and Roane couldn't have been more perfect. The Iktek was also sweet but I wish could have been bigger to display its scale.

love that book. why haven't we done another one again? I forget.

I know, right? alas...

I blame Sinsapaugh.

For world hunger, inflation, and the Black Death.

The Galactus Kid · Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:28 pm

Danger wrote:
Mark Hall wrote:
The Galactus Kid wrote:
Jason Richards wrote:the art for my Dramin and Roane couldn't have been more perfect. The Iktek was also sweet but I wish could have been bigger to display its scale.

love that book. why haven't we done another one again? I forget.

I know, right? alas...

I blame Sinsapaugh.

For world hunger, inflation, and the Black Death.

D. All of the above.

Daniel Stoker · Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:54 pm

You forgot furries... he's to blame for that too.

Daniel Stoker

The Galactus Kid · Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:41 pm

Daniel Stoker wrote:You forgot furries... he's to blame for that too.

Daniel Stoker

OMFG!!! TRUTH!!! lol

DtMK · Unread post by **DtMK** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:37 pm

I was wondering about a strange S.D.C./M.D.C. change in the books. One of the things I found interesting about the Lyvorrk is that in Vampire Kingdoms, they were minor M.D.C. equivalents with their S.D.C. being 6D6X100. Now, they are minor Mega-Damage creatures. This changed along with the Giant races in the revised Rifts Conversion Book, so it wasn't too out of place. I chalked up the converting to M.D.C. as a result of the increased magics when Tolkeen and Freehold fell.

On the other hand, the Yeno in Rifts Canada were originally M.D.C. beings, even with N.P.C.'s being listed as Mega-Damage. But now in D-Bees of North America, they're S.D.C. beings, and their force fields are stronger than before? I'm just trying to wrap my head around that one. I like the races and the art in the books, it was a well done job. I'm just trying to make sense of the little things.

Jason Richards · Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:40 am

DtMK wrote:I was wondering about a strange S.D.C./M.D.C. change in the books. One of the things I found interesting about the Lyvorrk is that in Vampire Kingdoms, they were minor M.D.C. equivalents with their S.D.C. being 6D6X100. Now, they are minor Mega-Damage creatures. This changed along with the Giant races in the revised Rifts Conversion Book, so it wasn't too out of place. I chalked up the converting to M.D.C. as a result of the increased magics when Tolkeen and Freehold fell.

On the other hand, the Yeno in Rifts Canada were originally M.D.C. beings, even with N.P.C.'s being listed as Mega-Damage. But now in D-Bees of North America, they're S.D.C. beings, and their force fields are stronger than before? I'm just trying to wrap my head around that one. I like the races and the art in the books, it was a well done job. I'm just trying to make sense of the little things.

The changes aren't the result of anything in the world. They're just editorial adjustments.

DtMK · Unread post by **DtMK** » Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:16 pm

Maybe it's because of the holiday season and they remind me of reindeer, here's a question about the Feni Nomad. It says when they go into their berzerker rage, they temporarily gain an extra 1D6X100 S.D.C. per level for the fight. Now, is this rolled once every level? If they roll once at level one, is that initial roll what they gain every level? Do they roll for it randomly every time they go into berzerker rage? How do they determine it?

The Galactus Kid · Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:12 pm

DtMK wrote:Maybe it's because of the holiday season and they remind me of reindeer, here's a question about the Feni Nomad. It says when they go into their berzerker rage, they temporarily gain an extra 1D6X100 S.D.C. per level for the fight. Now, is this rolled once every level? If they roll once at level one, is that initial roll what they gain every level? Do they roll for it randomly every time they go into berzerker rage? How do they determine it?

I would Roll randomly everytime they go into battle.

The Galactus Kid · Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:14 pm

Sidewinder wrote:I love the Auto-G race but just wanted to clarify a few things.

When they copy a Psychic Race, say a Psi-Stalker, at what level do they gain the psychic abilities? Their level?

Their limitation on using magic. It says they cannot cast spells, draw upon magic or learn magic under Vulnerabilities/Limitations. Ok, clear enough BUT what if they consume the DNA of a D-bee that has natural magic powers (who is not a Supernatural being, Creature of Magic, etc.) A couple of examples are the Zenith Moon Warper or the Lanotaur Hunter. The Moon Warper has abilities like a Mystic, whereas the Lanotaur Hunter has set spells (with a couple more at higher levels). Can they use those spells or is it just something they do not get access to?

Thanks!

Thats tough. I would have to go back and read the auto-g again, but I would personally not give them access to any psionic or magic. If the book says they can copy the psionic powers, then I would have it be at their level. They would have no access to magic.

dark brandon · Unread post by **dark brandon** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:00 pm

The Galactus Kid wrote:
Sidewinder wrote:I love the Auto-G race but just wanted to clarify a few things.

When they copy a Psychic Race, say a Psi-Stalker, at what level do they gain the psychic abilities? Their level?

Their limitation on using magic. It says they cannot cast spells, draw upon magic or learn magic under Vulnerabilities/Limitations. Ok, clear enough BUT what if they consume the DNA of a D-bee that has natural magic powers (who is not a Supernatural being, Creature of Magic, etc.) A couple of examples are the Zenith Moon Warper or the Lanotaur Hunter. The Moon Warper has abilities like a Mystic, whereas the Lanotaur Hunter has set spells (with a couple more at higher levels). Can they use those spells or is it just something they do not get access to?

Thanks!

Thats tough. I would have to go back and read the auto-g again, but I would personally not give them access to any psionic or magic. If the book says they can copy the psionic powers, then I would have it be at their level. They would have no access to magic.

I do believe they would gain the psychic abilities, but like you GK, i'd have to reread it. I think they copy a race right to it's very genetics, and would gain the psychic abilities of that race as long as it's a characteristic of that race. IE: the powers of the psi-hound/psi-stalker are ingrained in every race. But not in humans (even though they have a chance at having powers).

gaby · Unread post by **gaby** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:54 pm

What D-Bees can't take a OCC?

The Galactus Kid · Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:56 pm

Any D-bee can take one if it has them in its stat block. Some also have an R.C.C. that they take IF they don't choose an O.C.C. (the default skills for the race), and some are ONLY R.C.C's with no option for an O.C.C.

Jason Richards · Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:28 pm

gaby wrote:What D-Bees can't take a OCC?

GK hit it pretty much on the head. We tried to give lots of races that COULD take O.C.C.s, and to make it clear in the writeups, at least in the new classes. I think it's safe to say that, while there may be restrictions, pretty much any mortal, S.D.C. race can take an O.C.C.

The Galactus Kid · Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:53 am

Perez's zenith Moon Warper image is just hard to top.

gaby · Unread post by **gaby** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:24 pm

what are your top 10 New D-Bees?

What D-Bees do you think it was missing?

Do you use any them for Phase world,s games?

Daniel Stoker · Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:40 am

If I'm thinking of the right picture, that's a Larmac found on page 118 of the D-Bee book.

Daniel Stoker

The Galactus Kid · Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:43 pm

Daniel Stoker wrote:If I'm thinking of the right picture, that's a Larmac found on page 118 of the D-Bee book.

Daniel Stoker

you are correct.

random_username · Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:57 pm

Interesting book. The illustrations and/or descriptions are enough to make several of the species interesting to play regardless of their actual abilities. Alternatively some species are mainly interesting for their enhanced attributes and abilities. Having limitations on some of the species make them seem more balanced. Example: Lanotaur Hunter's Combat Awareness defeated by common minor psi-power or the super psi-power version.

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Any bored GMs looking to mess with their players (or simply create a funky story moment) should have a Power Leech (D-Bees page 162) lie down on a ley line in a large open area surrounded by hills or even mountains. For fun make sure there is a small CS outpost, interesting small town, etc or a Godzilla-sized dinosaur nearby or just the players. Have the Power Leech lay there for 40-47 hours then go 'play' in the town. Should be the equivalent of drawing power from a city sized constant power source only in PPE. Make the calculations and have fun.

Then go punt a giant dinosaur like a football.

Or... do the same process with several dozen of them at the same time...

Jason Richards · Sun May 02, 2010 1:42 pm

Bonezy2226 wrote:The biggest complaint I have about this book is the same I've had before. That is that you never include enough storyline behind many of your races. I'm looking at the book right now and the first entry, the Aarden-Tek. There's just not enough to the entry. You talk about how they're wide-eyed dimensional travellers, and even hint at possible campaign arcs, but you don't list hardly anything about other personallity traits. You extensivly list stats, but leave it up to the GM to develope a whole culture for these creatures. OH, except that they're explorers and like magic. You did get that. This has happened time and time again in the books, and I'm just saying that a little more depth to your culture descriptions would be great.

It can be an issue for a lot of existing races, I think, but in my opinion the new races don't suffer from that nearly as much. Plus, even some of the existing races got a nice flavor text facelift, like the Kremin.

Pepsi Jedi · Unread post by **Pepsi Jedi** » Sun May 09, 2010 4:08 am

Chill Zone wrote:Here's one thing bugging me and my group. Flipping through the books and looking at all the art work (Great jobs guys BTW) there is a dee bee race that pops up in alot of the art work but we have never found an entry for them. It's the one drinking the Psy-cola in the Psyscape book. What are they?

There's actually about 3 different writeups for that race in varying Rifts books. They're one of my faves.

They remind me a bit of me. lol

keldon_uk · Unread post by **keldon_uk** » Sat May 29, 2010 6:50 pm

Fantastic Book, One of my "core" books

I really really like the slurmph, just wrote up a merc soldier slurmph and I just get the image of him trying to hide from a CS squad in his armour and spilling out of any gaps

Really like the Malvoren too, very cool combat race

The Galactus Kid · Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:58 am

keldon_uk wrote:Fantastic Book, One of my "core" books

I really really like the slurmph, just wrote up a merc soldier slurmph and I just get the image of him trying to hide from a CS squad in his armour and spilling out of any gaps

Really like the Malvoren too, very cool combat race

I'm glad you like the slurmph. I had a bunch of fun with those guys.

Ale Golem · Unread post by **Ale Golem** » Sat Jun 05, 2010 4:02 pm

keldon_uk wrote:Fantastic Book, One of my "core" books

Seconded, although I am sad that both the Bayou Ursine and the Idie Swamp Men were chosen for the book while leaving the Two-Horned Techno-Men out.

Daniel Stoker · Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:54 pm

Wait the what now?

Daniel Stoker

Ale Golem · Unread post by **Ale Golem** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:53 pm

Daniel Stoker wrote:Wait the what now?

They're from the same Rifter that the aforementioned D-Bees originally came from. They were basically three foot tall, three eyed fury D-Bees that ride around in custom built power armor, they actually get negatives to save vs. horror factor when not in their power armor because they know how squishy they are. They get mechanical based psionics and are generally nifty.

Josh Sinsapaugh · Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:48 pm

Ale Golem wrote:
keldon_uk wrote:Fantastic Book, One of my "core" books

Seconded, although I am sad that both the Bayou Ursine and the Idie Swamp Men were chosen for the book while leaving the Two-Horned Techno-Men out.

I didn't submit them for D-Bees of North America at the time because I felt they were incomplete to be official material. I'm not sure why I decided that at the time, or even if it was the right decision to make. Do I regret that decision - maybe, I certainly like the race. Glad to hear you like them too.

I guess, in a way, it's kinda like how Bob Dylan left "Blind Willie McTell" off Infidels or "Red River Shore" off Time Out of Mind, instead of including them on either album. The main difference here is that I have no place comparing myself to someone like Bob Dylan...

~ Josh