best robin?

Larsen · Unread post by **Larsen** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:11 am

So who do you think is the best robin of the 3 there have been?

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:18 am

As a longtime Batman follower, I really liked Dick Grayson. My pick however, is Tim Drake. I think Dick really came into his own as the leader of the Teen Titans, and that wasn't dependant on his being either Robin or Nightwing, but more that he was an independant capable character. Tim Drake seems , to me at least, a canny and capable side-kick, able to hold his own, but definitely contributing something to the partnership. It will be interesting to see how the relationship develops as he grows older.
Tim also has the best Robin costume.

Guest · Unread post by **Guest** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:31 pm

The Dark Knight Returns is my favorite batman storyline of all time, so naturally the robin in there is cool

(plus it is fitting for robin to actually be a girl...I mean what kind of pansy ass runs around in tights, was batman trying to get the kid shot? Batman:"Ok, Im going to sneak through the shadows and knock them out" Robin: "K, what do you want me to do?" Batman: "Take your sexy little twink ass out there and draw their fire, I mean, distract them")

but I think I like Witch Hunter Robin more than all of those shmucks...she's anime! with cool hair!

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:51 pm

Okay, the original Robin costume was kinda...something not good.
But cut 'em some slack: It was 1940, and it was supposed to be a circus aerialist costume.

Killer Cyborg · Fri Jan 07, 2005 4:36 pm

The Dork Knight wrote:The Dark Knight Returns is my favorite batman storyline of all time, so naturally the robin in there is cool

(plus it is fitting for robin to actually be a girl...I mean what kind of pansy ass runs around in tights, was batman trying to get the kid shot? Batman:"Ok, Im going to sneak through the shadows and knock them out" Robin: "K, what do you want me to do?" Batman: "Take your sexy little twink ass out there and draw their fire, I mean, distract them")

That's why Batman dressed in dark colors and put Robin in bright, attention-getting colors.

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:56 pm

Robin (Dick Grayson) could have definetly taken some lessons from Bucky, Captain America's sidekick. I just finished reading some reprints of the Golden Age Cap stories, and man, Bucky was nowhere near as lame as some of the boy sidekicks from the same time.
I don't generally like sidekicks, but some are definitely better than others.
Tim Drake, for example.

Marcantony · Unread post by **Marcantony** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 6:27 pm

DarkRaziel2 wrote:and the spoiler (temporarily but may be back)

As a zombie? She was killed during the recent wargames story. Died in Batman's arms and was one of the reasons Tim left Gotham, and Batman's back to operating solo again.

My favourite's Tim, more pratical costume.

You didnt include Burt Ward in the poll. :-P

Killer Cyborg · Fri Jan 07, 2005 7:32 pm

Unkledak wrote:There was a wonderful gag in WB Tiny-toons. They had Plucky-Duck as a Batman like figure, and Hamton-Pig as "Decoy The Boy Target". I about wet myself laughing.

Actually, the Midnight Skulker comic had a parady called "The Duck Knight Returns" where the sidekick (who keeps needing to be replaced after they are killed) is named Decoy (and wears a Donald Duck/Hewey/Dewey/Lewey outfit).

znbrtn · Unread post by **znbrtn** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:25 pm

dick grayson all the way baby!

Snowtiger · Unread post by **Snowtiger** » Sun Jan 09, 2005 9:23 am

Anyone got any pics of Tim Drake's costume, so I could have an inkling on what it looks like. If you cant't post them here, post a link. I've not read his take on Robin.

I really liked Grayson's Nightwing costume...

And by the way, I happen to like the movie version of Robin's costume also.

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Sun Jan 09, 2005 1:46 pm

The Robin costume is one of a VERY few good things about the last two Batman movies.
Actually, it may be the only good thing about that piece of celluloid crap with Mr. Freeze (one of the worst Batman foes ever).
Mmmm, maybe also Uma Thurman slinking around. Yeah, that's all that was good.

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Sun Jan 09, 2005 2:28 pm

I don't know: aside from the stupid name (Captain Cold"?!?), he's a very good villain. Flash even says so.
The latest cross-overs with Identity Crisis show some very good characterization, and while I was saddened by the loss of Sue Dibny, horrified by the actions of Jean Loring, and fear for the Elongated Man's sanity, It was a very good series. Worth every dime.

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:24 am

When Batman gets around to it, I wouldn't want to be Green Arrow. The whole League should be very afraid of the Batman if they start routinely abusing their power.

Guest · Unread post by **Guest** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:52 pm

I went with Hate, because of what the guy before said, that is what batman would vote for.

Cranus · Unread post by **Cranus** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 9:29 pm

Tough call. I'm tied between Dick and Tim. I really like how Tim became Robin and how he operates. On the other hand, I like Dick out of "nostalgia".

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:47 pm

Tim is a great Robin. Dick grew up beyond Robin, and became even better. As Batman's partner/side kick, Dick was good. As Robin, leader of teh Titans, Excellent. As Nightwing...Bingo.
Tim might never be as good overall as Dick Grayson. But as Robin, the Boy Wonder...Tim gets my vote.

Kalinda · Unread post by **Kalinda** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 1:14 am

Dang you guys to heck. :wink:

all this talk about recent goings on in the batman comics makes me want to star collecting again. :lol:

my vote is for tim drake, for pretty much the same reasons as sentinel. dick was good, but tim fits as a sidekick much better.

of jason todd, we shall not speak. :badbad:

Zenvis · Unread post by **Zenvis** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 2:27 am

I liked the girl. It sucked that they offed her.

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:33 am

Zenvis wrote:I liked the girl. It sucked that they offed her.

I liked the girl okay. I just wish more effort was given to developing the female characters they already have, rather than overpopulating the DC Universe with new characters, who aren't much different form the existing staple.

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:17 pm

So, now that we've debated who was the best Robin, who do you think is/was the best sidekick of all time?

Overlord Rikonius · Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:20 pm

Sentinel wrote:So, now that we've debated who was the best Robin, who do you think is/was the best sidekick of all time?

Kurt Russell?

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 2:59 pm

Tango & Cash, perhaps?

My vote goes to either Kato (Green Hornet) Toro, sidekick to the original Human Torch in the '40s, or Robin.
Honorable mention goes to Bucky Barnes, who in the actual Golden Age comics is nowhere near as annoying as 'flashback' presentations of him, Kid Flash, Speedy (Green Arrow's sidekick), and Kid Miracleman, who grew up to be evil, and kicked the living crap out of his former mentor.

Overlord Rikonius · Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:05 pm

on further consideration, the best sidekick ever is Rick Jones.

Overlord Rikonius · Fri Jan 14, 2005 11:59 am

GREATMask wrote:Best sidekick is Jonathan Brandis

who?

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 12:10 pm

Lord High RICO Statute wrote:
GREATMask wrote:Best sidekick is Jonathan Brandis
who?

The blonde kid from "Seaquest:DSV". Also the kid from the movie "Sidekicks" w/Chuck Norris.

Overlord Rikonius · Fri Jan 14, 2005 12:41 pm

Sentinel wrote:
Lord High RICO Statute wrote:
GREATMask wrote:Best sidekick is Jonathan Brandis
who?

The blonde kid from "Seaquest:DSV". Also the kid from the movie "Sidekicks" w/Chuck Norris.

ah, that was was his name. He was the one who got Chuck Norris to beat up Joe Piscapo, right?

Marcantony · Unread post by **Marcantony** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 5:26 am

Sentinel wrote:
Lord High RICO Statute wrote:
GREATMask wrote:Best sidekick is Jonathan Brandis
who?

The blonde kid from "Seaquest:DSV". Also the kid from the movie "Sidekicks" w/Chuck Norris.

That's for making me remember that crap arse series.

dragon_blaze_99 · Sun Jan 16, 2005 1:50 pm

Best side kick Jubilee because we all know Wolverine did not ask for one. :lol:

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:38 am

dragon_blaze_99 wrote:Best side kick Jubilee because we all know Wolverine did not ask for one.

I just thought it was funny that Tim Drake beat Jubilee in the DC Vs. Marvel series.
I remember Jubilees' first appearance: I hated her the same way I hated Tabitha "Boom-Boom" from X-force. Both characters came a long way from their first appearances though, and I came to like them as time went on.

But speaking of sidekicks, I recently saw several old cartoons featuring the Teen Titans. Talk about painful.
All the "hip slang", calling Wonder Girl "Wonder Doll", and Kid Flash "Twinkle-Toes", and beginning or ending every sentence with "willd!" or "Crazy!", even Aqualad saying things like "Dig that ..."
>ugh<

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:55 pm

Actually, I wouldn't .
My father was a Marine from 18. My mother was a very conservative Southerner. I've seen the pictures. They ain't given me nothing to work with.

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:50 am

Trust me, they left me plenty of names to call them...

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