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hey what happened to NMI Black Vault?

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It just disappeared, all of sudden. Anyone know if exist a backup somewhere?
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you could try the wayback machine.

edit: Though I would note that it's likely a hickup. They do happen from time to time.
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You could PM NMI with that question.
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NMI has to pay for the site. He is currently trying to get the money but it is down until he can pay on it.
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Stone Gargoyle wrote:NMI has to pay for the site. He is currently trying to get the money but it is down until he can pay on it.
So let me get this straight: You've been working compiling stuff on the site for ten years and they can take all that work away if he doesn't make his annual payment?
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Gryphon Chick wrote:
Stone Gargoyle wrote:NMI has to pay for the site. He is currently trying to get the money but it is down until he can pay on it.
So let me get this straight: You've been working compiling stuff on the site for ten years and they can take all that work away if he doesn't make his annual payment?

Yup. But it's not like Nimmy has to do it. He's been generous up til now but I can't take that for granted.
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Gryphon Chick wrote:
Stone Gargoyle wrote:NMI has to pay for the site. He is currently trying to get the money but it is down until he can pay on it.
So let me get this straight: You've been working compiling stuff on the site for ten years and they can take all that work away if he doesn't make his annual payment?


And just one more reason I prefer hard copies of materials I use for games over digital versions, but that is my personal preference.
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Stone Gargoyle wrote:NMI has to pay for the site. He is currently trying to get the money but it is down until he can pay on it.
So let me get this straight: You've been working compiling stuff on the site for ten years and they can take all that work away if he doesn't make his annual payment?


And just one more reason I prefer hard copies of materials I use for games over digital versions, but that is my personal preference.
There is a setting here on the forums that will allow you to print posts out so you can have them in hard copy form. All of the materials in the Black Vault Wiki were posted here first, so you could basically get everything that is posted to the Vault if you spent a lot of time. I think once the Vault is back up it is also possible to print out the pages there.
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There also used to be an archived file that you could download. But, yeah, you can print the pages you want once the site is back up and running.
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Gryphon Chick wrote:
Stone Gargoyle wrote:NMI has to pay for the site. He is currently trying to get the money but it is down until he can pay on it.
So let me get this straight: You've been working compiling stuff on the site for ten years and they can take all that work away if he doesn't make his annual payment?

Rent and mortgages and stuff are annoying like that.
On the bright side those people that use the site could probably offer to help kick in the needed money.
Its a chunk of change for one person, but its a lot less if you have 10 or 20 or 500 people spreading the costs around.

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It's not really that much, only $150, but Nimmy has had a lot of difficulties this past year.
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Stone Gargoyle wrote:It's not really that much, only $150, but Nimmy has had a lot of difficulties this past year.

When stuff happens, yeah $150 can be a bridge to far. Been there, done that I know it all to well unfortunately.
But my point remains...
...so far he has done this for a rather long time out of the goodness of his heart, at his own expense.
It sort of frustrates me to see people get upset when a free (to them) service that someone else is paying for gets interrupted.
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eliakon wrote:
Stone Gargoyle wrote:It's not really that much, only $150, but Nimmy has had a lot of difficulties this past year.

When stuff happens, yeah $150 can be a bridge to far. Been there, done that I know it all to well unfortunately.
But my point remains...
...so far he has done this for a rather long time out of the goodness of his heart, at his own expense.
It sort of frustrates me to see people get upset when a free (to them) service that someone else is paying for gets interrupted.
I am not upset, personally. Yes, it has been a lot of work to put it all up, but the information is not lost. It is still on the forums for the most part. And as far as I know, Nimmy is going to get the money. He just needs some time to do so.
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Stone Gargoyle wrote:
eliakon wrote:
Stone Gargoyle wrote:It's not really that much, only $150, but Nimmy has had a lot of difficulties this past year.

When stuff happens, yeah $150 can be a bridge to far. Been there, done that I know it all to well unfortunately.
But my point remains...
...so far he has done this for a rather long time out of the goodness of his heart, at his own expense.
It sort of frustrates me to see people get upset when a free (to them) service that someone else is paying for gets interrupted.
I am not upset, personally. Yes, it has been a lot of work to put it all up, but the information is not lost. It is still on the forums for the most part. And as far as I know, Nimmy is going to get the money. He just needs some time to do so.


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CMDrunk wrote:http://webpagetopdf.com
Thanks. This might come in handy once the site is actually accessible again.
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Has anyone suggested to NIMI that he do a Patreon for this? If even 10 of us did $1 a month it would cover the cost of the site. I have used it enough that I would.
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Warshield73 wrote:Has anyone suggested to NIMI that he do a Patreon for this? If even 10 of us did $1 a month it would cover the cost of the site. I have used it enough that I would.
Not that I am aware of. You could try sending him a private message to that effect.
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I am not a huge user of the Vault, but I would be happy to contribute to the bucket.
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RockJock wrote:I am not a huge user of the Vault, but I would be happy to contribute to the bucket.
You might want to let Nimmy know.
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I'm going to reveal my ignorance (again)... what's the black vault?
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Jack Burton wrote:I'm going to reveal me ignorance (again)... what's the black vault?
The Black Vault Wiki is a site where thousands of homebrew powers created by various individuals were collected, mainly by yours truly, from the forums and indexed and edited for easy reference. The site also has other materials, but it was started to colect the powers posted in the New Powers thread in this forum. All of the materials posted to the wiki were posted here first, so they can be found, just not as easily.
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I'm not sure it was thousands, but it was a few hundred at least.
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Pepsi Jedi wrote:I'm not sure it was thousands, but it was a few hundred at least.
Iczer alone has over a thousand powers in there. I have over 800 powers. And in addition to that, there were the pages contributed by other people and the other materials I wrote, such as the creatures. It is thousands. But all that work I put in collecting it all to the Wiki will have been wasted if Nimmy doesn't pay to get the site back up.
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Stone Gargoyle wrote:
Pepsi Jedi wrote:I'm not sure it was thousands, but it was a few hundred at least.
Iczer alone has over a thousand powers in there. I have over 800 powers. And in addition to that, there were the pages contributed by other people and the other materials I wrote, such as the creatures. It is thousands. But all that work I put in collecting it all to the Wiki will have been wasted if Nimmy doesn't pay to get the site back up.

Anybody know how much he needs to get it up?
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Jack Burton wrote:
Stone Gargoyle wrote:
Pepsi Jedi wrote:I'm not sure it was thousands, but it was a few hundred at least.
Iczer alone has over a thousand powers in there. I have over 800 powers. And in addition to that, there were the pages contributed by other people and the other materials I wrote, such as the creatures. It is thousands. But all that work I put in collecting it all to the Wiki will have been wasted if Nimmy doesn't pay to get the site back up.

Anybody know how much he needs to get it up?
Nimmy said it is $150 yearly.
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Stone Gargoyle wrote:
Pepsi Jedi wrote:I'm not sure it was thousands, but it was a few hundred at least.
Iczer alone has over a thousand powers in there. I have over 800 powers. And in addition to that, there were the pages contributed by other people and the other materials I wrote, such as the creatures. It is thousands. But all that work I put in collecting it all to the Wiki will have been wasted if Nimmy doesn't pay to get the site back up.


Eeeehhhh. I used to go there pretty regular. I never saw 1000s, unless they were some how hidden in a fashion I couldn't access them. There just wern't that many links to click.
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Pepsi Jedi wrote:I'm not sure it was thousands, but it was a few hundred at least.
Iczer alone has over a thousand powers in there. I have over 800 powers. And in addition to that, there were the pages contributed by other people and the other materials I wrote, such as the creatures. It is thousands. But all that work I put in collecting it all to the Wiki will have been wasted if Nimmy doesn't pay to get the site back up.


Eeeehhhh. I used to go there pretty regular. I never saw 1000s, unless they were some how hidden in a fashion I couldn't access them. There just wern't that many links to click.
The powers are sorted by type, so that breaks up how many links have to be sorted through to find the power you are looking for. If you go to the individual author pages you get a more realistic idea of how many were posted by individual contributors. Most authors did not have that many, but as I said, Iczer and I both have around a thousand pages just in powers. I have been posting there regularly for ten years, so it adds up.
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Hopefully it'll come back up. I had a few too, but never saw 1000s.

100s, sure but it takes alot to get to 1000s.

Hopefully we'll be able to see at some point.
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Pepsi Jedi wrote:Hopefully we'll be able to see at some point.
I'm hoping so. I put a lot of work into compiling everything.
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I's been seven weeks, so I don't know if it will ever return. I don't know how long they will keep his account active. I personally cannot help, which is a shame, as i really would like to not have it disappear.
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If someone is willing to do the work in getting everything from here and putting it in at least a text file of some kind, I will happily put it up on my personal wiki for everyone to access.
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Stone Gargoyle....and Iczer or anyone else...if you still have your originals I will gladly put them up on my personal wiki as well.
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jaymz wrote:If someone is willing to do the work in getting everything from here and putting it in at least a text file of some kind, I will happily put it up on my personal wiki for everyone to access.
I already collected them once. I'm not wanting to do the work to collect them all again.
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I am currently copying all the stuff I've written to Word documents. You know, just in case.
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*thumbs up*
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NMI will accept donations towards restoring the site. You can reach out to him on Facebook.
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Glistam wrote:NMI will accept donations towards restoring the site. You can reach out to him on Facebook.
Yes, his real name is Jeff Ruiz and his profile picture has him holding a Stitch plushie.
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I PMed, and that worked as well.
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The wiki will be back up in a few days. Thank you to everyone who donated money to make it possible. It is paid up for three years now, apparently.
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Re: hey what happened to NMI Black Vault?

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Looking forward to it's return.

I'm very curious to see the 'thousands' of powers and such.
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Re: hey what happened to NMI Black Vault?

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It's back up. Here is a link to my page if you care to count my contributions:
http://wiki.thedeificnmi.com/index.php? ... e_Gargoyle
Here is a link to Iczer's page:
http://wiki.thedeificnmi.com/index.php? ... s_By_Iczer
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Re: hey what happened to NMI Black Vault?

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Stone Gargoyle wrote:It's back up.
Yay!
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U-raahhhhh!!!! 8) 8) 8)
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Re: hey what happened to NMI Black Vault?

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Thank you everyone for for concerns, thoughts, opinions and overall desire to see The Black Vault Wiki return. Thanks to a few people, I was able to resurrect the site (as well as my various other related sites and email accounts.

The site is going to be up for at least the next 3 years.

I like the idea of a patreon or maybe a GoFundMe to help pay for maintenance costs, upgrades, etc.

The one thing I know that I don't want to do is have any sort of ads or popups.

There used to be someone who ran a script from his computer that would download and compile the site into a simple to use document, but here's no longer around. I believe that person was Gadrin???
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I've written a script that will run once a week and download the site to my Dropbox account. The site will not lose any data as far as I'm concerned.
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Re: hey what happened to NMI Black Vault?

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NMI wrote:I've written a script that will run once a week and download the site to my Dropbox account. The site will not lose any data as far as I'm concerned.

Thank you for your hard work. That goes for everyone else who was involved. This information is awesome to have access to!
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Glad to see the Vault back up and running. Thanks to everyone who donated, or spread the word.
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Re: hey what happened to NMI Black Vault?

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NMI wrote:I've written a script that will run once a week and download the site to my Dropbox account. The site will not lose any data as far as I'm concerned.
Thanks Nimmy.
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Re: hey what happened to NMI Black Vault?

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Should I still archive things as well as a back-up?
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Re: hey what happened to NMI Black Vault?

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The power and apprehsion of Palladium fans is an awesome thing to see.
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