I wonder if a Sea Inquisitor launched the SDC nerve gas if that would change its damage to MD against Xiticix... seems to hinge on whether they're technically evil or supernatural.
eliakon wrote: I am sorry IQ stat times ten is NOT your IQ score. Since otherwise pretty much the majority of NPCs are "smarter than Einstein" and crap
Its a strawman of the worst order.
If that's what the book says then we have to go with it. We have to keep in mind that Rifts Earth is actually not our Earth. For all we know the Einstein of Rifts Earth had a higher IQ than in ours (perhaps 30/300) or he wasn't as intelligent in RE history as he was in our reality.
RE canonically has normal dolphins being super-smart and able to fire kinetic blasts from their mouth... as in EVERY dolphin... as in they could ALWAYS do this. This just isn't our Earth so we shouldn't get upset when things don't make sense in respect to what we know of our reality.
Another possibility, in regard to numbers on the Intelligence Quotient scale, is this could simply be explained by them using a different scale than us. Maybe humans are just as intelligent in Rifts as they are IRL in our world, but one historical difference is their numbers scale differently to reflect different intelligence extremes.
eliakon wrote:And the farcical claim that some how it is smarter than any human that has ever lived is a joke demonstrating that you are making up stuff to support your imagined narrative since in Palladium humans routinely get that smart.
Assuming that the 3D6 reflects the random chance of stats in all humans, then ignoring stuff like brain injuries or IQ bonuses from some classes, 1 in 7776 (6^5) or 0.0128600823045% of the population will have an IQ stat of 30. In a world population of 7 billion (which we have surpassed currently) this would mean over 900 000 people.
I don't know what stats we use for IQ, but a lot of people never get tested, and may apply their intelligence to menial labour instead of scientific breakthroughs, so we may never know just how many geniuses are really out there.
eliakon wrote: It appears that the Karl Prosek has an IQ of 190
Joseph Prosek is 170
General Cabot is 190
Colonel Lyboc is 180
Doctor Bradford is 270 Dang I guess that's impossible though right? I mean no human has ever been that smart so it can't be right?
Oh and the Angel of Death is 210
I think we can safely say that the idea that "IQ stat of 21 is smarter than any human that has ever lived" is BS
No, we can't safely say that, as it conflicts with canon. No game in Palladium books is set in our reality. Normal humans can be smarter in the Megaverse than in our reality.
Given that it's always been 3D6, it's always been that way. About the only change is the second bonus die in later games which changed the cap from 24 to 30.
You could also take the angle, if you wanted, that maybe humans were not always that way on Rifts Earth. Maybe they never used to get bonus dice and that's a recent thing that happened after the Coming of the Rifts.
"No human has ever been that smart" should never limit our imagination for how smart humans could become. With all the radiation and natural selection going on, is the smartest human ever existing in 2400 such an impossibility? Bradford has done more with DNA than we ever dreamed of so I have no problem thinking he's smarter than anyone who has ever lived by our time.
Killer Cyborg wrote:The real-world World Record for Deadlift was set this year, at 1,102 lbs. That guy would have a Palladium PS of 27.5.
Let's say 28 and assume he had a bit left in the hole
Although... top-tier powerlifters might be considered in the 'Physical Training' category of Heroes Unlimited and get the Superhuman PS super-ability... but I think HU is still a decade or two in our future.
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And common sense. All it really means is that 10 is average, like with every other attribute. If you played I.Q. 7 x 10, you're playing a clinically retarded character while RUE says you're kinda an underachiever.
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[quote="eliakon wrote:And I will still say that the claim that some how we should just pretend that anything with an IQ stat of 21 is smarter than any human that ever lived... even though there are multiple humans in the game with that stat or better is BS.
It can be "how the system is" but it just means that you will have to move the definitions of what an IQ 100 and IQ 50 and IQ 200 etc are.
Ever lived.... in OUR reality. Humans in games who get a second bonus die get up to IQ 300, up to 240 in the old ones without a second bonus die.
Heck, with a Natural/Genius in Beyond the Supernatural you can build up into the 40s... there's a mutant human NPC in Transdimensional TMNT with an IQ stat of 87/870 (even though it should only be Hominids who can buy it multiple times, I figure it is via the 'buy attributes directly' thing from Adventures)
We just have to write off that Palladium games are not meant to represent the lesser potential of humans/dolphins, both have higher potentials in these games than IRL.
It also means that yeah, either lots of NPCs are smarter than Einstein, or Einsten could have a higher Intelligence Quotient in Rifts Earth's history compared to our history, which also lacked Chaing-Ku dragons and Nunnehi.
Pepsi Jedi wrote:Sourcebook one Revised, Page 13: "Robotic Artificial Intelligence (A.I.) is found in sophisticated and advanced robots a bit beyond the current capibilities of the CS, Traix (Who are what 10-20 years ahead of the CS in tech?) and the rest of rifts earth"
CS Skelebots are listed a step down. "Robot drones or simple intelligences"
I'm not going to type out the entire entry, it's on the same page but they make a distinct point that the CS don't possess AI and it's robots are not AI.
This seems to be a bit of a semantic screw-up by Palladium though. "Simple Intelligence" is still intelligence...
So skelebots have a drone/simple intelligence... which is artificial, so it should still be classified as an AI.
We should probably use phrases like "Sentient AI" to describe things like ARCHIE and whatever other higher-than-Triax forces they're talking about.
Technically, saying Robotic AI is found in supra-Triax communities isn't the same as saying that Skele/Dyna bots are not AI, it's not an outright denial, more like an implication of denial, so let's use that to ignore that weird distinction and introduce sense-making language.
Pepsi Jedi wrote:We don't have a quarter of the population as psionic either.
We can't say that for sure. There are a lot of powers which people could have and not be aware of. Maybe every single human on our world has 'See the Invisible' but there's nothing invisible around so we never notice this. Or maybe we all have 'Mind Block' but nothing ever assaults our minds so its potential use is utterly irrelevant.
Killer Cyborg wrote:While looking for more examples of poisons, btw, I just found this:
RGMG 110
The weapons and equipment from strange or isolated cultures like the Arkhons or distant lands like Japan, China, Russia, Africa, Australia, and even South America are all going to be super-rare and may NEVER be available to North America, and Europe. NEVER!
Reading this I imagine 'never' being shouted ominously like Pinkie does 'forever' in "Green Isn't Your Color"
eliakon wrote:Cool, so you don't have flamethrowers in your North America? (After all that is an Australian piece of equipment)
Oh, and we cant have boats, since the stats for those are found in south America...
I thought Juicer Uprising had flamethrowers and Underseas also had stats for boats.
"All going to be super-rare" applies to stuff ONLY printed in these other books, not stuff ALSO printed in them.
It's also not a guarantee they can't be found, it does say 'may' never.
Pepsi Jedi wrote:The book citation is there on the cost. If you're trying to say a paint ball shell, that my kids shoot at each other for fun, at hte costs of penny's per paint ball, is what costs tens of thouands of dollars in Rifts... you're funny.
I want to take up this crusade!
Plastic manufacturing on Rifts Earth is not as widespread as it is today, and for the plants which can produce it, plastic is in high demand for making MDC armor and Wilk's guns and cannot be spared for silly games!
Paint balls are also extremely valuable for being able to shoot vampires from longer distances with greater accuracy and without giving away one's position as badly as shooting an uncontained stream of water.