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The Space-fold of the SDF-3 and two Xerxes class cruiser interface with a Space-rifts.

They landing a bit west of Saskatoon in 84:P.a
The crews build a city in the ship call Pioneer city,a few Days after they arrives they meet the Tundra rangers.

Ther Combined forces keeps the Monsters of Calgary and the Xiticix out of Sasktchewan.

By 96:p.a The Province of Sasktchewan was reborn.
It have a Parliament Government.

I will give more Info later!

Interesting.

So the Tundra Rangers are the dominant ones politically? Cause I don't see the REF having a parlement government... (could be wrong, though)

Xexes class cruisers? what are those? where from?

and Saskatoon? Get a life, They will do the Right thing and set up shop at the site of New Macross/Monument City : Calgary, and make the Rift there a real Hell for any demons that would try to walk through

Hate to break it to ya but the SDF is already in Atlantis.. (See the 2 page depiction of Splynn)

Sorry, I could not see it in the pic, I did see something that looks verry much like the Death Star though...LOL, though much smaller. I love the idea of bringing Robotech stuff to Rifts, I just never play in the Robotech world. There are some realy cool ATV's, jets...ect in the books. Some might need some fine tuning to fit in Rifts but not much. Great idea, but the parlament might be a bit of a stretch. Marshal law is probably more likely, with a civilian government in place that is subserviant to the military. Take it easy.

SR

Uhm, actually IIRC it was the SDF-1 that was found in Atlantis and not the SDF-3...

But on that note... it would be interesting to see the SDF-3 crash-landing on Rifts Earth. I'd like to see it splash down in the ocean though -- talk about a sea power that would rival the Splugorth/New Navy fleets...

I think the first thing that would happen is, it would be attacked by the orbiting communities and/ or the Arkhons... depending on where it appeared in the solar system. I had the SDF-1 appear, fight a large skirmish, and take over the abandoned station... they're still doing repairs and efending themselves, and haven't managed to contact earth yet.

You mean the picture on p 20 21? I always thought it was Ki Talan.

And where in there does any of the SDFs hide?

Page 20 on right side as part of the skyline.

Yup, thats definitely the SDF-1. I never noticed it, and probably wouldnt have if I hadnt broke out my Robotech book...hehe. Its almost taken exactly from the pose on page 110 of the Robotech main rule book. I feel sorry for the crew...hehe, Im sure they have all been eaten or turned into slaves by now. Take it easy.

SR

It's a joke guys... the picture kinda sorta in a wierd way looks like the SDF-1 in battaloid mode.. but the truth is if you look at the other buildings, they all have the same general structure...... of course considering the fact that Palladium lost the rights to Robo-tech, I wouldn't be all that surprised if the artist purposefully put the image in there just as final.. haha... or even just drew it in without thinking.

Something a hi-tech tower... is just a hi-tech tower.

thats what some fans call the Ikazuchi. (blame it on the RRG's Unofficial Robotech Referance Manual site.)

Actually, that book came out when Robotech was still considered a viable license by Palladium.

gaby, please continue providing more details about your Saskatoon/Robotech idea. I have always been a big fan of bringing Robotech into Rifts. Heck, I have a 'long-running' setting idea where the Gathering of Heroes brought the SDF-3 to Africa. I had the idea around '97 and its the one I generally use when I run Rifts along with Robotech. Although I rarely run it...

Note: I ignore the portion of CB1 about protoculture and ley lines.



This also a neat set-up. Its also "in-genre" for Robotech too!

If they were to set down in North America they would have to worry about the Coalition States. Since they are not from Rifts Earth the fact that they are 100% Human is irrelevant to the CS. Further they consort with Aliens(Zentradei) further proof of the need to destroy them as far as the CS is concerned.

A pretty cool idea though, one that has been bounced around from one GM to the next for some time.

Also Because of their use of Protoculture, ((at least in the Palladium versions)) their mechs would detect as some sort of very minor psi/mystical thing. Except perhaps for the Stealth ones, even the invid couldn't detect them.

don't be stupid. that picture was made LOOOOOONG before PB let the license go. Given the astonishing ressemblance, I'd bet that it was indeed done on purpose, as an in joke.

As stated above, the book was first printed in 1992 when Robotech was still a property. In fact there is a Robotech video cassettes and RPG's add on the last page of the book (160). The resemblance is to close to be a coincidence. Since PB was so into Robotech at that time Im sure it was a joke thrown in by Newton Ewell, the artist. Just compare pg.110 of the Robotech rule book with pg.20 and you can see that it is clearly the SDF-1 from the waist up, down to the cannons sticking off of the shoulders at an angle. The real question to be asked is, do we play it as if the SDF-1 is in the possesion of the Slugorth, or should it be treated as a joke? That could be a campaign in its self, the rescue of the human crew or capturing the technology...ect. It also would give you an outlet to put nuclear powered veritech's into your game. Just some ideas, but the next time Im running in Atlantis Ill be sure to point out one building that does not quite look like the others.

SR

I remember a topic about that one time and i think Newton admitted to tossing itin as a side joke

My take on SDF-3 being on earth i would say the SDF 3 would use the same tactics the new navy used. Don't commit to anyone in this case because on rifts earth you never know who is good or bad. Tundra Rangers on the otherhand would benefit greatly and the SDF3 would be a force of it's own to recon with. The CS's invasion force of tolkien wouldn't stand a chance with the numbers the pilots in RT will put up especialy since most CS jets use lasers

Well what I want to know is whos face is that on page 21? It's on the far right and is part of the building....

Lol -I love it. Being a colossal Robotech fan, I think this'd be ultra cool.

Wow, Epic Thread Necromancy!

-STS

Well it's not Splynncryth's face, which is odd. I'm pretty sure he'd have a whole list of non-human faces to put up on a building before going with a lowly human's. Or a big eye...

NO THAT FROM Macross THAT OTHER dimension !!LOL

Any news on the topic over the years guys ?

Just a note: Calgary would never be chosen as a City since 1: Rifts disrupt space fold
2. Leylines don't let protoculture flowers grow.


so saskatoon is probably a great starting choice.
A Thing of note is how many Aliens made the trip? A Spherian will find travel around rifts earth very fast and might actually get in trouble walking into the wrong Alien's habitat...

A Perytonian will find their powers at Greater levels and the mutant mages might go mad approaching through calgary..

The Carbonarans will adapt easily
the Mutant Cats will also find a huge power boost, but will also likely go mad.

the praxians will find their anti gravity tech a secret they might share to other races wishing to head into space.

Since Rick Hunter is in charge of the SDF 3, and Edwards and his forces will be dead, (and by canon stanadards, Rick became a psychic after going "mind training" to fight edwards. ... Rick and the SDF 3 will likely be open to any Fair legal system Humans have.

Not really seeing the 'go mad from the power' suggestion there, if that were the case everything that gained power-ups on Rifts Earth would have gone insane which simply isn't the case. Maybe go insane due to being cut off from their home dimension and people, but they've no more reason to go insane than anyone else.

well the perytonians are already off balance, their mutants made them outcasts and their non mutated breathen gladly sent their mutants to work for invid just so that the invid wouldn't kill them off. not to mention the curse they had on their planet..
Also, they are a race of native magic users... They will be freaked out by just how many chaos demons are in Canada.
Same with the Garudans, the psychic cats... they will be uneased and possibly driven insane by the number of entities roaming the region.

The male Garudans anyway. If I recall the females are physical psychics, not sensitives.

I think it's the other way around, the Males are physical psychics and the Females are the Sensitive psychics. It seems to fit more with the "roles" each sex plays in their society.

As per pg 29 of the Sentinels Garudan males are psychic sensitives and females possess powers that can be used as a means of attack and manipulation.

-STS

Had a group land them in the california islands over by old San Fran........turned into a long drawn out game that became a fight for their life, while the repair crews were working on making it space worthy again.

It was much fun, though later on i determined that San Fran was too cliche

All Mystics of Peryton are mutant survivors of a cataclysmic war. There are no non-mutant Perytonians by the Sentinels RPG. I don't know where you get they had non-mutant versions.

I don't see how the garudans would be effected. They have a perception of reality is vastly different than human and may not even be noticed much.


Gravity effects RT space folds, being near the surface they likely are not going to use their Fold Drives unless really desperate.

The dimensional instability for the Earth Solar System particularly around Rifts Earth trashed the FTL/Fold drives of that one alien race listed in the South America book so it's quite likely just about anyone trying to get to Earth via space travel using FTL or Fold drives is in trouble. Not without a specific handwave that the race in question has a drive built to compensate for that.

The Art of Robotech 3 , which explains the plot of Sentinels past the first 3 eps that were made.
The RT rpg gets the perytonians wrong, at least by carl macek Standards). They were a race who zor visited, the invid came and raped their planet. There was a curse that affected surface dwellers, and invid scooped up thousands of the Mutants with the permission of the perytonian goverment in exchange for the invid letting non surface , non mutated perytonians GO FREE. the Perytonian wizard that the SDF3 Gets on their team was a member that was heading to an Opteran Zoo. He stays with the SDF because of the Hatred his race has towards mutants.