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I have some NPC,s European heroes.

That My player group meet if they go to Europe.
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My primary world super team is the UNION - United Nations Internatiol Operative Network. It has an absolute crapton of heroes from around the globe.
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Back in my V&V days, my first regular team of NPC heroes was Canadian.
For my current group, I have several British heroes, a couple of Chinese and Japanese heroes, a pair of stalwart Germans, and a smattering for other countries.
I still have my Canadian heroes from 1983.
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2SCOO wrote:I have a selection of British heroes, though I still tend to set my games in the US.


Nothing quite like visiting dignitary supers though.
I like to get a scenario started at the UN, and have a Super from each country near the non-super ambassadors as part of their security.
Then the countries that don't have supers can complain about how unfair it is.
Then, the game takes off.
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I use century station as an example of what went on in my game.. the beings are in my game as Roving superbeings and I used characters from both CS and GI as Nps of import when I feel they are useful.
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In relation to my topic about characters that are hard to play, I have always tried to avoid stereotypes in my other-national heroes and villains.
Not every Canadian says "Eh?" at the end of each sentence.
Not every Brazillian knows Jujutsu or Capoeira.
Not every Frenchman is a drunken womanizing sot, with bad manners and worse hygene.
Not every Japanese man owns an antique katana.
Not every Irishman walks around looking for either a fight or a Guiness.
Given the number of English/Irish marriges, not all Irishmen hate the British.
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el magico -- darklorddc wrote:
Sentinel wrote:In relation to my topic about characters that are hard to play, I have always tried to avoid stereotypes in my other-national heroes and villains.
Not every Canadian says "Eh?" at the end of each sentence.
Not every Brazillian knows Jujutsu or Capoeira.
Not every Frenchman is a drunken womanizing sot, with bad manners and worse hygene.
Not every Japanese man owns an antique katana.
Not every Irishman walks around looking for either a fight or a Guiness.
Given the number of English/Irish marriges, not all Irishmen hate the British.


Same here, while quite often cultural influences may play a role on how the person uses or styles their powers it's definitely not a sure-fire thing.

I have one supersoldier from egypt, a villian, who, besides an arabic name, doesn't have a thing to do with any islamic archtypes. His powers are all about agility and he throws a lot of knives.


What, no chariots?
Does he worship Ra or Osirus or Thoth?
Tell me he at least wears one of those man-skirts, and writes in hieroglyphics.
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I do have a guy who dresses like that named Famine, but he's from the Bronx....mystic weapon villian.



Now that's a stereotype character.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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I've always been fond of Eurostar as Non villain team... Although I frst read about them in Champions, I also have used Team Tomorrow from Aberrant in various settings.
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Gomen_Nagai wrote:I've always been fond of Eurostar as Non villain team... Although I frst read about them in Champions, I also have used Team Tomorrow from Aberrant in various settings.


Eurostar is a great team of villains from Champions.
Along with Doctor Destroyer, Mechanon, Deathstroke, and Terror Inc, they were one of my favorites.
I didn't like the newer members introduced in the thrid editions Classic Enemies book (White Flame, Mentalla, Whip), although I supported the idea of additional members.
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I'm mad They shelved the Champions world wide book... so now All the character work they brought up is not ever seeing the light of day
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Gomen_Nagai wrote:I'm mad They shelved the Champions world wide book... so now All the character work they brought up is not ever seeing the light of day


Didn't it see life as one of the books in the Fuzion edition?
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the champions worldwide is a Champions : New Universe book and it doesn't follow any of the CNM era timeline.
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Champions worldwide for fifth ed. is supposedly for sale from Hero/DoJ.
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csyphrett wrote:Champions worldwide for fifth ed. is supposedly for sale from Hero/DoJ.
CES


yes it's on sale but it follows the new Champions time line, it does not involve The Proprietor war and it has none of the CNM characters.
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Ah, well, I will simply sit back and enjoy my 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Edition Champions material.
Ah, Circle and M.E.T.E., Demon and Primus, The Great Super-Villain Contest, Stronghold, Vipers' Nest, Deathstroke, Strikeforce, and all those Enemies books...
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Gomen_Nagai wrote:
csyphrett wrote:Champions worldwide for fifth ed. is supposedly for sale from Hero/DoJ.
CES


yes it's on sale but it follows the new Champions time line, it does not involve The Proprietor war and it has none of the CNM characters.


That's probably because CNM was a joint venture for ICE and R.Talerson and Steve Long doesn't own the characters and has no attention of going back to a defunct line of products.
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I've actually come up with several Chinese heroes and villains that I simply have never gotten to use.
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Sentinel wrote:I've actually come up with several Chinese heroes and villains that I simply have never gotten to use.


You sound like a Chinese politician. :)
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Alejandro wrote:
Marrowlight wrote:
Sentinel wrote:I've actually come up with several Chinese heroes and villains that I simply have never gotten to use.


You sound like a Chinese politician. :)


Almost. If he did it would be Chinese heroes and Japanese villains


You what's funny? I have a serious lack of Japanese and Chinese villains.
Maybe two apiece (not including Triads and Yakuza: but they aren't supers).
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I used the Cyber Knight as the basis for a Japanese tech warrior. Fairly stereotypical in the sense he was a sword wielding Japanese warrior, but it blended well. Basically I had a Japanese merc who worked primarily for various industrial concerns and did some side work for the government. He showed up as both an ally and enemy of my playing group more then once.
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I just roll up a standard character (3D6 for attributes, standard Hit Points and Chi, and 30 SDC), roll up an Education Bonus, and then use the special abilities and bonuses of the Samurai from Rifts: Japan.
Voila: instant modern Samurai.
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Not that, that is a bad idea. But wouldn't it be easier to use a worldly martial artist (or the dedicated for that matter) from N&SS? Give them the sword based martial art (the name of which escapes me at the moment).
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Grey Death wrote:Not that, that is a bad idea. But wouldn't it be easier to use a worldly martial artist (or the dedicated for that matter) from N&SS? Give them the sword based martial art (the name of which escapes me at the moment).


Zanji Shinjenken Ryu.

This gives me the option of a Samurai character with Martial Arts powers, or without.
There is no Zen Archery in N&SS, while that weapons skill is found in R:J.
Not every Samurai needs three extra Physical Skills, or an extra Martial Arts Power.
Not that the WMA is a bad choice: I just want more choices.
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On a different point in the discussion of non-US heroes, I try to :

1) Not make the hero a National or Ethnic stereotype.
We already covered that point.
But, it would be nice to have an Australian hero who wasn't from the Outback (Gateway, Talisman I).

2) Not to make the foreign heroes less powerful than their US equivalents.
I thought it would be nice for a change if the Crimson Dynamo were more powerful than Iron Man; if Red Guardian were a better martial artist then Captain America; If Italy had an archer better than Hawkeye, or Germany had a runner faster then Quicksilver, or a Japanese Telepath more powerful than Xavier.
In the Marvel Universe, it seems that if you come from another country, either you are less powerful than the US hero you parallel, or you end up re-locating to the US.

3) Don't forget the patriotism, but not too Ultra-Right Wing.
Waving your countrys' flag is fine, and loving your country is good. But, there is a point in which you can go too far with the patriotic symbolism.
We don't really need a Captain Peoples' Republic of China, nor a Hauptmann Federal Republic of Germany.
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el magico -- darklorddc wrote:I'm working on making a japanese team now. My pledge to myself is that none of them will be:

1. A samurai
2. A ninja.
3. a cat girl
4. Pilot a giant and/or transformable robot.


Instead, how about:
1. A Baseball Player.
2. A Corporate Intern.
3. A Dog Boy.
4. An Express Train conductor (the Mag-Lev train).
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Those sound pretty cool. 8-)
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MontanaPlayer wrote:Could folks post any links/sites they use to help name their non-US teams and characters? For example. I have long sought out a translator for Arabic names, but they don't show them in an english text translation, only Arabic text.


I cheat: I use names and terms from the native mythology, or I simply use "English equivalents".
I see no reason why an APS Light character who happens to be Arabic can't call himself "Light Storm" or "Laserfire".
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Sentinel wrote:I see no reason why an APS Light character who happens to be Arabic can't call himself "Light Storm" or "Laserfire".



ding we have a winner. :)
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Marrowlight wrote:
Sentinel wrote:I see no reason why an APS Light character who happens to be Arabic can't call himself "Light Storm" or "Laserfire".



ding we have a winner. :)


I would, however, try to come up with better names: those were just the first two that hit me.

I would also try to make Arabic characters who had powers that had nothing to do with:

Controlling storms, especially sandstorms. Talk about stereotypes.

The magic artifacts of Aladin, or any of the 1,000 Tales of the Arabian Nights. With the exception of Mystic Study characters, I would avoid this stereotype as well.
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Sentinel wrote:
Marrowlight wrote:
Sentinel wrote:I see no reason why an APS Light character who happens to be Arabic can't call himself "Light Storm" or "Laserfire".



ding we have a winner. :)


I would, however, try to come up with better names: those were just the first two that hit me.

I would also try to make Arabic characters who had powers that had nothing to do with:

Controlling storms, especially sandstorms. Talk about stereotypes.

The magic artifacts of Aladin, or any of the 1,000 Tales of the Arabian Nights. With the exception of Mystic Study characters, I would avoid this stereotype as well.


When it is the only thing used then it is bad - but if part of a larger collection of heroes what really is the difference between a Knight who served with Arthur or a guy who has a flying carpet when it comes to stereotypes.
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If there is a larger collection of heroes, then it can fit. And, as I pointed out earlier, sooner or later, there will be stereotypes: sooner or later a Japanese guy will be a Samurai or a Ninja.
I just found it kind of questionable that the first Arabic hero Marvel introduced rode a flying carpet and had a magic scimitar, and was bare-chested and wearing a jeweled turban. Meanwhile, the first Israeli hero(ine) had the ability to fly, super-strength, , and her Star Of David was mush more understated as part of her costume.

Marvel has had a long tradition of making stereotyped heroes and villains (read old Tales of Suspense and Tales to Astonish).

In the case of the Black Knight though, the criminal was American, and Dane Whitman was not introduced as a British hero. His motif was more of an affectation than a derivative stereotype.

Captain Britain came dangerously close, but Alan Moore and Jamie Delano were able to keep him from becoming a British Stereotype altogether without losing his unique British-ness.
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Sentinel wrote:If there is a larger collection of heroes, then it can fit. And, as I pointed out earlier, sooner or later, there will be stereotypes: sooner or later a Japanese guy will be a Samurai or a Ninja.
I just found it kind of questionable that the first Arabic hero Marvel introduced rode a flying carpet and had a magic scimitar, and was bare-chested and wearing a jeweled turban. Meanwhile, the first Israeli hero(ine) had the ability to fly, super-strength, , and her Star Of David was mush more understated as part of her costume.

Marvel has had a long tradition of making stereotyped heroes and villains (read old Tales of Suspense and Tales to Astonish).

In the case of the Black Knight though, the criminal was American, and Dane Whitman was not introduced as a British hero. His motif was more of an affectation than a derivative stereotype.

Captain Britain came dangerously close, but Alan Moore and Jamie Delano were able to keep him from becoming a British Stereotype altogether without losing his unique British-ness.


I was actually talking about the Shining Knight though, not the Black Knight. :)

Besides, didn't the Arabian Knight make his debut in the Contest of Champions along with the culturally enlightened Shamrock and Defensor (among others)?
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Marrowlight wrote:
Sentinel wrote:If there is a larger collection of heroes, then it can fit. And, as I pointed out earlier, sooner or later, there will be stereotypes: sooner or later a Japanese guy will be a Samurai or a Ninja.
I just found it kind of questionable that the first Arabic hero Marvel introduced rode a flying carpet and had a magic scimitar, and was bare-chested and wearing a jeweled turban. Meanwhile, the first Israeli hero(ine) had the ability to fly, super-strength, , and her Star Of David was mush more understated as part of her costume.

Marvel has had a long tradition of making stereotyped heroes and villains (read old Tales of Suspense and Tales to Astonish).

In the case of the Black Knight though, the criminal was American, and Dane Whitman was not introduced as a British hero. His motif was more of an affectation than a derivative stereotype.

Captain Britain came dangerously close, but Alan Moore and Jamie Delano were able to keep him from becoming a British Stereotype altogether without losing his unique British-ness.


I was actually talking about the Shining Knight though, not the Black Knight. :)

Shining Knight was A DC character. :-P So was the Silent Knight. And, the Atomic Knight.

Besides, didn't the Arabian Knight make his debut in the Contest of Champions along with the culturally enlightened Shamrock and Defensor (among others)?


No, Arabian Knight had previously debuted in the Incredible Hulk. Sabra appeared in the issue immediately before his.
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Sentinel wrote:Shining Knight was A DC character. :-P So was the Silent Knight. And, the Atomic Knight.


I never said DC or Marvel, that was your decision/assumption. :)
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el magico -- darklorddc wrote:
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MontanaPlayer wrote:Could folks post any links/sites they use to help name their non-US teams and characters? For example. I have long sought out a translator for Arabic names, but they don't show them in an english text translation, only Arabic text.


I cheat: I use names and terms from the native mythology, or I simply use "English equivalents".
I see no reason why an APS Light character who happens to be Arabic can't call himself "Light Storm" or "Laserfire".


That's the way I feel about it. Some words in some languages have multiple meanings which make the name even better than it's English equivalent.

Some don't translate as well and others sound better.

The Reza Kyoudai sounds mysterious...as opposed to the Laser Sisters, which is the literal translation.

The Reza Kyoudai sounds like some kind of ancient sect guarding the Ark of the Covenant or something.

You couldn't get away with calling two girls the Laser Sisters in English without people snickering, but their Japanese name makes it sound cool.


The amount of snickering is going to decrease in direct proportion to how quickly they laser through the snickerers' SDC. :lol:


I've found in some cases, the reverse is true.
I did a Japanese hero called "Divine Wind", which was a lot less giggle- intensive than "Kamikaze".
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There is also the fact in some language translations, it wouldn't come out "Laser Sisters", it might instead come out "Sisters of Light".
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You guys just try to suck the fun our of everything don't you. :D

Great name DLDC - even if the six or so people who speak Japanese well enough to snicker at it you'll game with in your life may snicker. :D
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Marrowlight wrote:You guys just try to suck the fun our of everything don't you. :D

Great name DLDC - even if the six or so people who speak Japanese well enough to snicker at it you'll game with in your life may snicker. :D


Oh, I still think they are great names.
I was just pointing out one of the possible pitfalls of direct translations.
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Alejandro wrote:Dude in power armor? Check



Hrm, did Japan beat Iron Man to the guy in power armor kinda deal? I'm honestly not sure.
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On a side note, Iron Man first appeared in 1962.
Iron Man 28, A.K.A. Gigantor, appeared first in October, 1963.
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el magico -- darklorddc wrote:I tried to strike a balance between originality and the natural homage that would occur while avoiding real stereotypes.
How did I do?


Honestly? I almost stopped looking at the first guy. Is the Japanese Flag an awesome looking symbol? Yes. Is there a very large framework for heroes of any nation to have their flag or part of it involved in their costume? Again yes. But with that said, it seems like I've seen so many characters with the Japanese Flag on them that my brain just clicks off.

But I gave the rest a look because I know you do good work - and I must say I liked what I saw. The glow effect on the Power Armor guy is something I obviously never played around with when I was playing CoH (I'll have to post pics of what most of my guys looked like - they intentionally looked similar because I found a body type that cracked me up) but it makes the character look awesome. If you weren't in the CoH engine that has some limitations I'd say totally redo the shoulder pads and add some mirrored surfaces like his visor to other parts of the body (especially the lower leg)

I'd suggest making ReiKen bald and maybe experimenting with swapping the white for red (at least in the CoH engine, prolly not for the character himself. Red and Black look so good in that engine)

Koushi is one of my absolute favorites I've ever see come out of the engine. It's in no way a complex look, but all the pieces put together like they are give it a good 'chic' edge that I absolutely love. If someone did a revamp on the White Queen concept this is what I'd want.

Kurai's strongest point is also her weakness - half the time I love hair like that, the other half the time I hate it, so I go back and forth.

So visually, once I got past the Big Red Dot Aversion, it was by and large all good.

As for concepts....

For Tetsu I'm prolly too influenced by Magneto but I never think of "in your face" and "magnetism" going together. But I'm sure you've got some nice power stunts to go with the combo. Only thing I'd add is maybe swap gruff for demanding (a more appropriate word for a Japanese character versus an American character imo) and expand a bit on what type of Patriot he is.


For Ikou I'd inquire as to what types of energy he specifically absorbs - and maybe add a line about whether or not he leeches off the country to keep himself at full juice. Since he and Tetsu served together, perhaps a note about why he's content to remain the 2nd banana in the relationship.

You've gone out of your way to put Rei two steps to the left of everyone else. An Intel guy who specializes in sneaking in a military led unit under an in-your-face commander. I'd either expand on how folks don't trust him, or intentionally add that someone is reaching out to him to bring him in and see if he can really be trusted not to rat everything they say and do to Intelligence.

Koushi - if she sees herself as moral and upstanding, what was she doing taking mercenary work? Especially considering her lineage.

For Kurai, if their powers are hereditary is she just the first person in the line to develop darkness powers? If she isn't, not sure why she'd be so freaked out about it. If she is, then that's another level to add about why she's so freaked out about it. Maybe she (both even) hears voices of departed ancestors.


Those would be my comments on the group both visually and in terms of profiles. All in all a good team and a nice job of making them feel "super-hero" without making them feel "japanese super-hero" when it comes to describing their profiles.
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I love the Japanese superteam! Great concept! I like Kurai and Koushi.

I remember The People's Heroes, Red Star, The Rocket Reds, Stalnoivolk, etc. from DC Comics. Another great example was The Global Guardians featured in Justice League International.

I too like the old Champions books versus the newer stuff. Although, I really enjoy the new take on VIPER compared to the old. A lot of the history has been flushed out to where it makes a lot more sense logically.

Champions also did two great books on heroes in the United Kingdom and Canada.
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The existance of super-heroes in great numbers and of great power level is going to cause a change in world sociology no matter what you do.
No world with super-beings, magic, advanced technology, and aliens is going to be able to perfectly mirror reality.
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What do you think would happen? That we'd demand Japan turn over some kid born with super powers because we don't want them to have them?


I think you'd see some serious "outside-the-box" thinking in terms of genetic research and development.
I think the medical science of cybernetic prosthesis would get turned very quickly into military combat issue bionics.
I think the U.S. would quickly struggle to adapt to the shift in power structure, although in the long run, even with super-beings, do you really want to tork-off the greatest nuclear arsenal in the world?
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What therumancer just said kinda involves what I did for my current HU campaign..except I went for a more fantastic, Crossoverish Route...
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Recapping a few points of this topic:

It seems that while some unique "flavor" of the heroes of other countries is a good thing, creating stereotypes (or rather, furthering the stereotypes) is a bad thing.
The key seems to be in not attempting to create a _____ hero, but rather a hero who happens to be_____.

One hero (or villain) simply cannot represent the entire population or culture. Thus having more than one character from an area is a better way to go.

The feeling I get from several posts, is that the more varied and cosmopolitan the team, the better. When the X-Men were five white kids from middle-America, they were bland in comparisson to the Len Wein team (Giant Size X-Men #1). Likewise, a team made up of several archtypes of a society or nation are better than simply using the same archtype over and over.


For myself, I like to fully flesh out the characters and write them up on full sheets, if I want the players to actually interact with them. But, if I have no intention of the NPC actually doing anything, but simply existing to be a name, I'll only come up with a scetchy background and loose details ("Burst into flame, has super-strength, answers to 'Charlie'", thatsort of thing).
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In coming up with a team of heroes for South America, I worked up these little gems.

The team was to be called (tenatively) "The Harbingers Of Storm", unless I found something in Portuguese that sounded better.
They were led by a mutant named Tempest (real name was Helio Bolivar) who possessed Magnetism, Weight Manipulation, and Super-Energy Expulsion (which I house-ruled to double the effect of his Magnetism power, instead of a super-energy pulse).
He was also a mechanical and electrical engineer (he had an IQ of 23, and the PhD Education Bonus), along with the science and communications skill programs.

He was backed by a genetically enhanced (Experiment) Lycanthope (Major Power), who passed himself off as a supernatural lycanthrope.

Also on the team was a robot suit pilot Argento Aguilar (my Spanish sucks, I know). This was actually a team of five men and women, but only one ever went out at a time, so their strength of number was often underestimated. The suit was built as per usual, but based loosely on one of the SAMAS armours from CWC.

The brick of the team was originally a Growth character, but I later altered that into a Titan Juicer (take the Super-Soldier from PUII, with the minor power "Giant"). I armed him with an experimental rail-gun (plundered from AU:GG).

The team picked up an other experiment who came to be called Monstruo. A failed experiment by a Gene-Splicer (yes, I plundered them from Rifts to use in my HU game as well), who was attempting to combine human DNA with a humanoid alien and a rhino.
While ridiculously powerful, he won't live long, and is in constant pain.
He's as likely to land a punch for 6D6X10 as he is to collapse on the floor with a seizure.

Rounding out the team was a female super-soldier code-named "Argentina" (no rank attached to the name).
She had the minor power Radarsense, as well as four enhancements: Physical Transformation, Exceptional Balance, Uncanny Targeting and Throwing, and Mind/Body Attunement. I gave her HtH Jujutsu (again, plundered from Rifts: Japan), and the Military Specialist Education Bonus.

Not too stereotypical.
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I'm just getting over the fact that you named a guy Lycanthrope. Ready the stones! :D
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