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Shadow magic and Silhouettes

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Secrets of the Atlantians has the "shadow assassin" occ with shadow magic.
And as a Player and a GM I am debating on allowing Silhouette RCC having access to that magic and believe that they were the creators of such magic. As the Sunja had to acquire it somewhere.
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Re: Shadow magic and Silhouettes

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Hawk258 wrote:Secrets of the Atlantians has the "shadow assassin" occ with shadow magic.
And as a Player and a GM I am debating on allowing Silhouette RCC having access to that magic and believe that they were the creators of such magic. As the Sunja had to acquire it somewhere.



Or maybe the Silhouettes were created by it. Overexposure to humanoid stock, maybe. ;)
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taalismn wrote:
Hawk258 wrote:Secrets of the Atlantians has the "shadow assassin" occ with shadow magic.
And as a Player and a GM I am debating on allowing Silhouette RCC having access to that magic and believe that they were the creators of such magic. As the Sunja had to acquire it somewhere.



Or maybe the Silhouettes were created by it. Overexposure to humanoid stock, maybe. ;)


Well the silhouette is a minor elemental so maybe the "physical" form was but the shadow elemental intelligence created the magic first. And as atlantians are dimensional hopping beings are found in the 3 galaxies.

Which would lend credibility to the silhouette rcc to naturally have access to that magic. (Both as an element of shadow and without having to be "evil" or Sunaj.
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They are described as "quasi-elemental beings", not "minor elementals".

I would love to learn more about the silhouette homeworld with lots of Rifts connected to the "shadow dimension where shadow beasts dwell", particularly in respect to the expanded much-scarier Shadow Beast found in Shadows of Light who can drain your PPE.
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Axelmania wrote:They are described as "quasi-elemental beings", not "minor elementals".

I would love to learn more about the silhouette homeworld with lots of Rifts connected to the "shadow dimension where shadow beasts dwell", particularly in respect to the expanded much-scarier Shadow Beast found in Shadows of Light who can drain your PPE.


True, and I stand corrected.

However it still seems odd that the race isn't naturally linked to shadow magic. It makes little sense unless there is a malevolent group with in the silhouette race that we are unaware of.

And silhouette simvan?
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Simvan Monster Riders? I'm not sure what you're talking about there...

The shadow spells from Bletherad seem like a natural fit for the Silhouette, I wouldn't be opposed to letting them have some.
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Axelmania wrote:Simvan Monster Riders? I'm not sure what you're talking about there...

The shadow spells from Bletherad seem like a natural fit for the Silhouette, I wouldn't be opposed to letting them have some.


Referring to the shadow beast and possible way of silhouettes have dealt with them.

Also which book is bletherad?
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http://palladium-store.com/1001/product ... herad.html

*notices description only mentions the "spirit" and "cold and ice" magic, doesn't mention the shadow / wall magic, disappointment*
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There is only one spell (5:Wrapshadow) that appears in Library of Bletherad which isn't also in Secrets of the Atlanteans, FWIW.
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Axelmania wrote:http://palladium-store.com/1001/product/466-PFRPG-Book-12-Library-of-Bletherad.html

*notices description only mentions the "spirit" and "cold and ice" magic, doesn't mention the shadow / wall magic, disappointment*


Doesn't that seem odd for a race naturally attuned to shadows and magic?
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Re: Shadow magic and Silhouettes

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Oh, I didn't know they were just reprints, that's disappointing, was hoping for wholly new.
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Some of the levels and costs are different, for games that are into that sort of thing.
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