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Hello all, I'm freshly new here- but I came specifically to this forum dimension to ask a question of the collective.

I am looking for the most expensive, absolutely extraordinary, somewhat unrealistic, heinously ridiculous, GM defying, wow factor items. So far I have not been able to find such a discussion, but the search feature seems to be broken as well- most of my experience with this site is actually from google searches.

I happen to be a player in a game where we are exploring the novelties of the three galaxies. Kriegor, CCW, Outer territories. This is a super long running game, and my little character happens to have mastered the art of raising their own kingdom, absolutely killing it in the realm of economics and trade, and is a hapless trillionair on the level of certain Naruni Despots according to textbook numbers, but seemingly without all of their trumped up kinds of interdimensional thousands of years of winning. Just sound economics based in real life, and the player for the win.
Speaking of which, has anybody else noticed that the numbers for Naruni enterprises don't add up? Altess shares, Naruni Shares, Demi god dude shares... Anyways I did numbers, and they don't add up, neither here nor there.

But, 'my' numbers add up! I find myself in the market for precious 'black room' dealings, greatest rune items (not really my favorite, they are 'so' generic...), valuable artifacts, and priceless just stupid things. There do not seem to be a lot of these, but there are surprising gems throughout the books!
For example, there is a particular goddess who has been mastering loads of magic, and it appears you may buy a failed suit of armor that she creates for billions of credits. It literally has like thousands of MDC, and Bio Regenerates and other things. (I dont have the book listing or page number on me, but I bet you guys that one of you knows it.)

What else is out there guys? What things there is usually no hope of ever getting, but that oceans of money could collect?
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Ships are always a high priced item if we are talking pipe dreams. Sure a privately owned cruiser is fairly expensive, but then at TW features. After that a few Dominator plug ins. Then you do the same with fighters and PA on the cruiser, and so on.
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Silver77 wrote:Hello all, I'm freshly new here- but I came specifically to this forum dimension to ask a question of the collective.

I am looking for the most expensive, absolutely extraordinary, somewhat unrealistic, heinously ridiculous, GM defying, wow factor items. So far I have not been able to find such a discussion, but the search feature seems to be broken as well- most of my experience with this site is actually from google searches.

I happen to be a player in a game where we are exploring the novelties of the three galaxies. Kriegor, CCW, Outer territories. This is a super long running game, and my little character happens to have mastered the art of raising their own kingdom, absolutely killing it in the realm of economics and trade, and is a hapless trillionair on the level of certain Naruni Despots according to textbook numbers, but seemingly without all of their trumped up kinds of interdimensional thousands of years of winning. Just sound economics based in real life, and the player for the win.
Speaking of which, has anybody else noticed that the numbers for Naruni enterprises don't add up? Altess shares, Naruni Shares, Demi god dude shares... Anyways I did numbers, and they don't add up, neither here nor there.

But, 'my' numbers add up! I find myself in the market for precious 'black room' dealings, greatest rune items (not really my favorite, they are 'so' generic...), valuable artifacts, and priceless just stupid things. There do not seem to be a lot of these, but there are surprising gems throughout the books!
For example, there is a particular goddess who has been mastering loads of magic, and it appears you may buy a failed suit of armor that she creates for billions of credits. It literally has like thousands of MDC, and Bio Regenerates and other things. (I dont have the book listing or page number on me, but I bet you guys that one of you knows it.)

What else is out there guys? What things there is usually no hope of ever getting, but that oceans of money could collect?


You're thinking about the Titan, Hecate, and her bio-wizard armor. She sells it for billions and if you're lucky enough to get one, it will take a volley of city busters to get rid of that gem.
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RockJock wrote:Ships are always a high priced item if we are talking pipe dreams. Sure a privately owned cruiser is fairly expensive, but then at TW features. After that a few Dominator plug ins. Then you do the same with fighters and PA on the cruiser, and so on.


Why stop there? Go into the luxury liner business! Start a business of providing luxury liner trips through the three galaxies. Seriously. Not only is this a solid investment opportunity, but it stands to make MORE money in the long run.

supply your luxury cruisers with TW amenities (expensive, especially for every room), a fully supplied medical staff, a standing mercenary crew (to protect your liners from pirates), complete with Naruni made A-1 Avengers (expensive as sin, since they can't produce the original design at its original cost), and the most expensive fighters money can buy (probably also Naruni made).

I'd recommend you only do this though after you buy off a Dominator who's willing to live a life of total decadence, and a carefree lifestyle for all of his technological goodies.

OR!

Come on down to Jeremy McMasters' (Original PC) Megaversal Technologies Incorporated! For a reasonable price of a not so small fortune, MTI will modify your luxury liners with amenities beyond magic! Beyond the 'mere' technology of the Three Galaxies! Want a box in each room that can fashion any food, drink, or clothing out of thin air? Done! Want the best defensive armaments there are out there? We got your back! Want to turn your entire defensive force into a one man wrecking crews within minutes? You should give our Juicer Augmentation Harness (TM) a try! All the power, strength and speed of a Mega-Juicer with none of those nasty side-effects... like an explosive death. All items are provided with a five year warranty for discounted repairs. We also offer payment plans for those on a budget. You look like a man with good taste and fine bearings! I don't see this being an issue. Just come on this way and we will get you set up with one of our accounting representatives...
Hotrod wrote:I haven't noticed saints getting the bad end of the bargain at all. Sure, a lot of them die in pain and poverty. A lot of jerks die in agony, betrayal, and humiliation, often taking their own lives rather than having to face the consequences of what they've done.
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RockJock wrote:Ships are always a high priced item if we are talking pipe dreams. Sure a privately owned cruiser is fairly expensive, but then at TW features. After that a few Dominator plug ins. Then you do the same with fighters and PA on the cruiser, and so on.


Hello "RockJock"! Salutations from the three galaxies.
Cruisers are indeed a pipe dream to most, but not me! I actually have about four of them patrolling a TW Space Gate (TM) economic interest which I spearheaded for trade and transport between galaxies. So as you can see, I am more likely to be interested in Battleships or Dreadnoughts than something like a Cruiser- but for someone with only a couple of planets under my belt, that seems a little ridiculous. Also, there are plenty of the affiliates who make a good argument for why one does not simply purchase a ton of corvettes instead, because missiles kill everything! I always tell them that more shields is better, and that has gotten us this far. Suffice to say I have a goodly fleet of corvettes as well, guarding my other interests.
You see I made my original profits off of actually being a soldier for hire myself! Running escort duty for cargo liners in the outer rim, fending off things like zombies and nasty space hives, also pirates (some with cruisers!), whole pirate kingdoms. But unlike the regular player who would not have given his GM so much trouble, I invested my winnings in other ships and other mercenaries whom also run escort, and then I made profits from everyone. Sure we lost a ship every once in awhile, but space isn't 'that' hostile, and steady profits were made. Eventually I saved civilizations and lead specific colonies (mostly elves, I got a 'thing') to the promised lands, and poured money on them like saudi arabia.
Anyways, that was all off topic. I apologize...
I seem to be looking for more 'exotic' and elusive unique items than things that are corporately available! For example a Greatest Rune weapon with psychic powers taken from another dimension, like Nightbane for example? For dream powers somewhat unique to a three galaxies setting perhaps?
Or a typical 'Crystsal Ball', worth around 25 million credits or somewhat- but most players would not probably even know about one of these! Perhaps some other druidic items, as you can see- I am quite the connoisseur.
Carry on!

Johnathan wrote:Why stop there? Go into the luxury liner business! Start a business of providing luxury liner trips through the three galaxies. Seriously. Not only is this a solid investment opportunity, but it stands to make MORE money in the long run.

supply your luxury cruisers with TW amenities (expensive, especially for every room), a fully supplied medical staff, a standing mercenary crew (to protect your liners from pirates), complete with Naruni made A-1 Avengers (expensive as sin, since they can't produce the original design at its original cost), and the most expensive fighters money can buy (probably also Naruni made).

I'd recommend you only do this though after you buy off a Dominator who's willing to live a life of total decadence, and a carefree lifestyle for all of his technological goodies.

OR!

Come on down to Jeremy McMasters' (Original PC) Megaversal Technologies Incorporated! For a reasonable price of a not so small fortune, MTI will modify your luxury liners with amenities beyond magic! Beyond the 'mere' technology of the Three Galaxies! Want a box in each room that can fashion any food, drink, or clothing out of thin air? Done! Want the best defensive armaments there are out there? We got your back! Want to turn your entire defensive force into a one man wrecking crews within minutes? You should give our Juicer Augmentation Harness (TM) a try! All the power, strength and speed of a Mega-Juicer with none of those nasty side-effects... like an explosive death. All items are provided with a five year warranty for discounted repairs. We also offer payment plans for those on a budget. You look like a man with good taste and fine bearings! I don't see this being an issue. Just come on this way and we will get you set up with one of our accounting representatives...


Hello Johnathan! I haven't considered the luxury business, perhaps I will invest in that as well! Investment opportunities are always welcome- and though I was looking for accessories to make me either glow like a light bulb, hear the lamentations of my enemies, or make women super interested, I never pass up the chance to make more money. I already own a mercenary kingdom in space, with multiple fleets of security transports already, though I usually do cargo liners the luxury flight industry might just be that 'excitement' I have been looking for.
I would not attempt to bargain with a Dominator probably, mostly because they already live like despots- and I don't like competition! If they take one of my ships it is much more fiscally sound to simply write that one off, though if I and my party were on board that ship we would kill the thing with magic. Everyone else would still die probably though.
I love TW stuff! If you've got other unique Ideas for space based TW amenities feel free to spit them out, and Ill ruthlessly steal your ideas since nobody can enforce copyright on my in the outer rim, mwahhaha. But I would reward you too, I'm not soulless- I have cookies, and more than one cat girl..
Ill set one of my personal accounting representatives up with Mr. McMasters' accounting representatives. Hahha, your little enterprise sounds most suitable for some of my less 'mundane' needs. While I don't fleet 'luxury' liners per say, most of my war Cruisers are in fact luxury liners. As I said, Ive plenty of money, and much more of it than I even have time. And I prefer my officers to love me, rather than to see only their master living in riches.
I'm specifically looking for those more 'personal touch' items though, at the moment.
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Johnathan wrote:
You're thinking about the Titan, Hecate, and her bio-wizard armor. She sells it for billions and if you're lucky enough to get one, it will take a volley of city busters to get rid of that gem.


Yes, this was it exactly I was referring to. I need things like this.
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Luxury minions. Since you aren't an evil slave-keeper you pick whatever you are looking for and repeatedly buy and free slaves that fit that archetype until you find one that wants to stay after being freed.

Chi-town burbs 3 The Black Vault has a number of interesting toys, like a spear made out of vampire bones or a flying observer drone. Not particularly pricey, but they don't show up elsewhere.
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So your a baller......
Well the ultimate status symbols are pieces of Osiris, think about there are like 6 known pieces.
Want the world to know your powerfull? Hire,not get summoned, not true name knowing, but hire a succubus and a nexus devil to be your concubines. Now these things normally tear each other apart and kill mortals like yourself to boot. But your so rich they are willing to forego the eternal war and share your bed, at the same time no less. Red carpet event? What could be better on your shoulders? The heart of Osiris on your neck and two sworn foes pretending to love you and each other.

Dont forget to show up in style with a suit of dragon god armor that you got from your large endowment to the church of dragon wright. This fancy suit isnt as good as full rune armor but its actually harder to get. While you are at it make sure your intergalactic cell phones ring tone is a living spoken rune word by no other than your favorite dinner guest Toth.
If people cant smell the reek of profits on you well your a nice guy you can pay for cyber surgery to get them a new nose.
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As mentioned previously: Pieces of People...Powerful people. Lock of Aphrodite's hair? Zeus's toenail clippings? One of Splynncryth's discarded baby teeth? Styphon the Black's foreskin? Not only is there the prestige of owning a piece of a really powerful entity, but they're potential ingredients of some powerful magic items. Necromancers and others will be lining up to buy from you(and they can't simply overpower you and take the stuff for themselves).
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"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

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Zamion138 wrote:
Well the ultimate status symbols are pieces of Osiris, think about there are like 6 known pieces.
hire a succubus and a nexus devil to be your concubines.
Dont forget to show up in style with a suit of dragon god armor that you got from your large endowment to the church of dragon wright.
This fancy suit isnt as good as full rune armor but its actually harder to get.
While you are at it make sure your intergalactic cell phones ring tone is a living spoken rune word by no other than your favorite dinner guest Toth.
If people cant smell the reek of profits on you well your a nice guy you can pay for cyber surgery to get them a new nose.


Amazing ideas! I love particularly the portion about the full rune armor. Are there any references to rune armor that you could think of to direct me to? Do those affect spellcasting at all?
Unfortunately as amazing as all of the god stuff would be for these purposes, gods were particularly taken out of our game for many reasons. It's not necessarily that they don't exist, but our GM has an agreement with us that he won't bring them in. In exchange for not having access to deity items, being rid of that kind of influence for the worse (it's never better in my experience) is totally worth it.
As far as the Nexus Demon and the Succubus go- that sounds absolutely wonderful of course. The downsides being potentially murdered in your sleep as those things 'need' for money is not known for being the most powerful constant.

taalismn wrote:As mentioned previously: Pieces of People...Powerful people. Lock of Aphrodite's hair? Zeus's toenail clippings? One of Splynncryth's discarded baby teeth? Styphon the Black's foreskin? Not only is there the prestige of owning a piece of a really powerful entity, but they're potential ingredients of some powerful magic items. Necromancers and others will be lining up to buy from you(and they can't simply overpower you and take the stuff for themselves).


I've never met a necromancer who I enjoyed selling things to, and most of them don't strike me as ballers- but I'm sure there are some out there!
The god items aside, alien intelligences are totally on the playing field. We don't mind people who have to fight like men, and can't (usually) use some sort of divine override ability. Despite how many amazing ways they can do things, or how much MDC they have. I guess its the principle.
Lord Splynncryth may have some inherent magic of some sort to his baby teeth- I'd believe it. But at the same time there would few ways of verifying such an item. Also, the chances that it's effects are beneficial are slim. I'd totally still go out of my way to own it probably.
The Necromancers would need something more interesting than Lord Splynncryth's teeth, since I've got all the money I can think of to spend on anything I might want. I literally made a thread for rare things to buy, because I'm at a loss. Hahha.
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"And we don't know what this is, or what it's supposed to do, but it was-could still be due to hyperdimensional linkage- definitely part of the alien primordial god entity E!E!E!@K!K!K!. How much am I bid for it?"
"Going to go for it?"
"Nah, I'm waiting for the piece of the Demon Planet that's up next...you can FEEL its dark aura from up here!"
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"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

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boring7 wrote:Luxury minions. Since you aren't an evil slave-keeper you pick whatever you are looking for and repeatedly buy and free slaves that fit that archetype until you find one that wants to stay after being freed.

Chi-town burbs 3 The Black Vault has a number of interesting toys, like a spear made out of vampire bones or a flying observer drone. Not particularly pricey, but they don't show up elsewhere.


I like the idea of the slave buying and releasing, it's a totally gratifying experience to undertake and brings a little tear to my eye when I can see the results actually ending in happiness. But of course these things are complicated, and releasing fully broken slaves into the wild is unadvised as they will mostly wither and die. I have indeed actually gathered some lasting companions this way though. Double points if you can use your connections and purchase power to figure out who the actual 'slavers' are, and their pathways; discover their means and/or people and destroy them- all anonymously.

The Black Vault is a perfect example of some rare and ridiculous items, even if most of them are relatively useless. Awesome!
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taalismn wrote:"And we don't know what this is, or what it's supposed to do, but it was-could still be due to hyperdimensional linkage- definitely part of the alien primordial god entity E!E!E!@K!K!K!. How much am I bid for it?"
"Going to go for it?"
"Nah, I'm waiting for the piece of the Demon Planet that's up next...you can FEEL its dark aura from up here!"


Exactly! Hahha..
"It comes with a broken psi-stalker to keep it drained, but you have to feed it (the demon planet piece, and the psi-stalker) every day."

This has come back to bite me a few times already since I've acquired multiple items that break reality (and me) in various ways.
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Get Hephestus drunk, challenge him to make stuff(toss him all sorts of useless crazy ideas and get him hooked)....when he sobers up, drop by his workshop and offer to pay for the stuff he gimmicked up while six sheets to the wind. Ideally agree to take the stuff off his hands while he's still recovering from the hangover and before he decides he's rather attached to some of the stuff.
Chances are, some of the stuff is amazingly complex, godly pretty, and mostly useless junk.
Some of it will do exactly the sort of stuff you threw up as ideas.
And some of it's going to be utterly bat$#!+ x-the-unknown with all sorts of crazy properties and likely dangerous as hell.
And it's unlikely Hephie wrote out notes and user instructions for the stuff.

This should be akin to throwing a big building grant to Terry Pratchett's B.S.("Bloody Stupid") Johnson and telling him to 'go with his imagination'.
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"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

--------Rudyard Kipling
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Silver77 wrote:
Zamion138 wrote:
Well the ultimate status symbols are pieces of Osiris, think about there are like 6 known pieces.
hire a succubus and a nexus devil to be your concubines.
Dont forget to show up in style with a suit of dragon god armor that you got from your large endowment to the church of dragon wright.
This fancy suit isnt as good as full rune armor but its actually harder to get.
While you are at it make sure your intergalactic cell phones ring tone is a living spoken rune word by no other than your favorite dinner guest Toth.
If people cant smell the reek of profits on you well your a nice guy you can pay for cyber surgery to get them a new nose.


Amazing ideas! I love particularly the portion about the full rune armor. Are there any references to rune armor that you could think of to direct me to? Do those affect spellcasting at all?
Unfortunately as amazing as all of the god stuff would be for these purposes, gods were particularly taken out of our game for many reasons. It's not necessarily that they don't exist, but our GM has an agreement with us that he won't bring them in. In exchange for not having access to deity items, being rid of that kind of influence for the worse (it's never better in my experience) is totally worth it.
As far as the Nexus Demon and the Succubus go- that sounds absolutely wonderful of course. The downsides being potentially murdered in your sleep as those things 'need' for money is not known for being the most powerful constant.

taalismn wrote:As mentioned previously: Pieces of People...Powerful people. Lock of Aphrodite's hair? Zeus's toenail clippings? One of Splynncryth's discarded baby teeth? Styphon the Black's foreskin? Not only is there the prestige of owning a piece of a really powerful entity, but they're potential ingredients of some powerful magic items. Necromancers and others will be lining up to buy from you(and they can't simply overpower you and take the stuff for themselves).


I've never met a necromancer who I enjoyed selling things to, and most of them don't strike me as ballers- but I'm sure there are some out there!
The god items aside, alien intelligences are totally on the playing field. We don't mind people who have to fight like men, and can't (usually) use some sort of divine override ability. Despite how many amazing ways they can do things, or how much MDC they have. I guess its the principle.
Lord Splynncryth may have some inherent magic of some sort to his baby teeth- I'd believe it. But at the same time there would few ways of verifying such an item. Also, the chances that it's effects are beneficial are slim. I'd totally still go out of my way to own it probably.
The Necromancers would need something more interesting than Lord Splynncryth's teeth, since I've got all the money I can think of to spend on anything I might want. I literally made a thread for rare things to buy, because I'm at a loss. Hahha.


https://palladium-store.com/1001/produc ... herad.html
Only one i can remember is in here, also a some greatest rune weapons that are like beyond epic.


Dont worry about dying in your sleep, thats why you sleep with both, they wont let the other get the kill, its a MAD (mutually assured destruction) love triangle. It will be worth it trust me.
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For a ship start with an Altess battlecruiser, then go up from there. An all female crew of beautiful, powerful, and unusual humanoids(amazons, godlings etc), with TW upgrades, Dominator tech and so on. Not your run of the mill Warshield or Smasher.

Castlerake comes to mind from PF, along with a ring to give the powers of a Beastmaster, and another that makes you a Conjurer. Maybe even some of the crystal items.

Black Vault has all sorts of interesting things, some of which might be worthy of your rareness level.
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RockJock wrote:For a ship start with an Altess battlecruiser, then go up from there. An all female crew of beautiful, powerful, and unusual humanoids(amazons, godlings etc), with TW upgrades, Dominator tech and so on. Not your run of the mill Warshield or Smasher.

Castlerake comes to mind from PF, along with a ring to give the powers of a Beastmaster, and another that makes you a Conjurer. Maybe even some of the crystal items.

Black Vault has all sorts of interesting things, some of which might be worthy of your rareness level.


Frostfoil is prettier... 8-)
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