Look out! He's got a Danzi.

[IronWarrior]

Would the Danzi R.C.C. be considered a minor magical being in Rifts seeing as how they were formerly a very powerful magical race akin to faeries and still have enhanced healing and some magical abilities inherent to the race?

[Nekira Sudacne]

Yes. They are still creatures of magic, it's just their power is a shadow of what it once was. one way to think of it would be if a Greater being is demoted to Lesser status.

[IronWarrior]

Yes. They are still creatures of magic, it's just their power is a shadow of what it once was. one way to think of it would be if a Greater being is demoted to Lesser status.

so how would i convert one? straight hp + sdc = mdc? what about strength? supernatural or augmented?

[eliakon]

Straight SDC+HP=MDC
They don't have supernatural (or otherwise) stats in PF, so they wouldn't get the boost here.
Their spirit tattoos would do MDC damage though (I would be tempted to say they would be one of the rare magics to do SDC/MDC damage as appropriate to the target as it 1) is thematic to them and 2) would help make it a 'lesser' form of magic and not just 'kewl new tattooz')

[IronWarrior]

Straight SDC+HP=MDC
They don't have supernatural (or otherwise) stats in PF, so they wouldn't get the boost here.
Their spirit tattoos would do MDC damage though (I would be tempted to say they would be one of the rare magics to do SDC/MDC damage as appropriate to the target as it 1) is thematic to them and 2) would help make it a 'lesser' form of magic and not just 'kewl new tattooz')

makes sense to me. in the absence of supernatural strength i assume a magic weapon would be a good choice, something simple and uncomplicated or vibro-blades. not sure energy weapons would be used. (going by conversion book 1)

[RockJock]

Would you have minor/major Danzi bone weapons become MDC/SDC based on the opponent?

[eliakon]

Would you have minor/major Danzi bone weapons become MDC/SDC based on the opponent?

Probably.
Or possibly have minor be SDC and major be MDC.
But I kind of like the 'mixed damage' option. It really gives a good "not quite as powerful as it could be because it can't instagib a mundane" feel to the "lesser" magics

[drewkitty ~..~]

Would the Danzi R.C.C. be considered a minor magical being in Rifts seeing as how they were formerly a very powerful magical race akin to faeries and still have enhanced healing and some magical abilities inherent to the race?

No, a character class cannot be a magical being because it is a class.

According to lore, the Danzi were once powerful creatures of magic akin to Faerie Folk (in some respects they still are), but those powers virtually disappeared as the result of a curse uttered by Netosa moments before he succumbed to the magic slumber of ages.

This is the only relevant text I could find in the racial descriptive text. (iow:the text before the racial stats).

Based on the racial stats they are just a bit more CoM then Elves are. And as such they would still be HP/SDC beings in Rifts IMHO. (There can only be opinions on this because they have not been officially converted.)

There is not text dealing with whether or not their magic tattoos would turn them MDC. Thou, if I had to set a /HP/SDC-MDC limit I would use the same one the TA magic tattoos use.

Bone weapons.
The Greater ones would be MDC and inflict MD.
The normal ones would be SDC and have bonus damage in SD (the normal ones taking on the damage rating of the greater have in PF would be easiest) and would damage vamps, were-people and other beings vulnerable to magic.

[dreicunan]

You could also make them minor MD creatures and only have HP change to MDC (or HP plus a set amount like 2d6).

[Axelmania]

Is this a race from one of the newer books? Can't remember hearing the name until now.

[Nekira Sudacne]

Its from Palladium Fantasy.

[drewkitty ~..~]

Is this a race from one of the newer books? Can't remember hearing the name until now.

PF(2) RPG book 11 Eastern Territory.

It is pretty old. being 1st published in 2001. Is this your 1st time you've seen it mentioned?

[Blue_Lion]

Would the Danzi R.C.C. be considered a minor magical being in Rifts seeing as how they were formerly a very powerful magical race akin to faeries and still have enhanced healing and some magical abilities inherent to the race?

No, a character class cannot be a magical being because it is a class.

According to lore, the Danzi were once powerful creatures of magic akin to Faerie Folk (in some respects they still are), but those powers virtually disappeared as the result of a curse uttered by Netosa moments before he succumbed to the magic slumber of ages.

This is the only relevant text I could find in the racial descriptive text. (iow:the text before the racial stats).

Based on the racial stats they are just a bit more CoM then Elves are. And as such they would still be HP/SDC beings in Rifts IMHO. (There can only be opinions on this because they have not been officially converted.)

There is not text dealing with whether or not their magic tattoos would turn them MDC. Thou, if I had to set a /HP/SDC-MDC limit I would use the same one the TA magic tattoos use.

Bone weapons.
The Greater ones would be MDC and inflict MD.
The normal ones would be SDC and have bonus damage in SD (the normal ones taking on the damage rating of the greater have in PF would be easiest) and would damage vamps, were-people and other beings vulnerable to magic.

Umm.. I could have sworn RCCs where racial classes so if the race is magical then the RCC is magical.

[drewkitty ~..~]

Would the Danzi R.C.C. be considered a minor magical being in Rifts seeing as how they were formerly a very powerful magical race akin to faeries and still have enhanced healing and some magical abilities inherent to the race?

No, a character class cannot be a magical being because it is a class.

…snip

Umm.. I could have sworn RCCs where racial classes so if the race is magical then the RCC is magical.

EDIT: I answered the question that was literally asked, directly.

Then I answered the question they meant to ask.

A RCC is a Racial Character Class.
Just not the Race Itself.

If you look at how the Danzi are presented, they are presented as a Race. There is not RCC squished into the Racial Text. Yes, there are a couple Danzi RCCs that are presented right after the Racial text is presented.

I do wish PB would stop putting the RCC label onto Races. Why? Cause it is stupid. The mislabeling with the RCC label causes most of the stupidness in the PB gamebooks. I don't know why KS does not edit them to be correct when he edits every book. Maybe he needs someone that can recognize small stupid stuff like that to proofread things before they get published.

[Blue_Lion]

RCC is typically suppose to be a race that is a class but it can also be in some cases a class limited to a race.

When I see RCC I think of racial classes where the class is a race.

[IronWarrior]

Would the Danzi R.C.C. be considered a minor magical being in Rifts seeing as how they were formerly a very powerful magical race akin to faeries and still have enhanced healing and some magical abilities inherent to the race?

No, a character class cannot be a magical being because it is a class.

…snip

Umm.. I could have sworn RCCs where racial classes so if the race is magical then the RCC is magical.

EDIT: I answered the question that was literally asked, directly.

Then I answered the question they meant to ask.

A RCC is a Racial Character Class.
Just not the Race Itself.

If you look at how the Danzi are presented, they are presented as a Race. There is not RCC squished into the Racial Text. Yes, there are a couple Danzi RCCs that are presented right after the Racial text is presented.

I do wish PB would stop putting the RCC label onto Races. Why? Cause it is stupid. The mislabeling with the RCC label causes most of the stupidness in the PB gamebooks. I don't know why KS does not edit them to be correct when he edits every book. Maybe he needs someone that can recognize small stupid stuff like that to proofread things before they get published.

i understood what you were saying and it works very well as a minor magical mdc being. just hp + sdc = mdc no supernatural strength or supernatural damage. i did however follow some other things i found on the forums concerning Danzi. Rifts Spirit West was a very good fit. Tribesman in particular. However i had to edit some abilities to capture the Danzi essence which in my opinion is closer to ancient celt/gaelic society. i nixed the totem abilities and they only get one fetish, otherwise Tribesman is a nice fit for that "barbarian" feel that the Danzi seem to be.

[drewkitty ~..~]

snip…
i did however follow some other things i found on the forums concerning Danzi. Rifts Spirit West was a very good fit. Tribesman in particular. However i had to edit some abilities to capture the Danzi essence which in my opinion is closer to ancient celt/gaelic society. i nixed the totem abilities and they only get one fetish, otherwise Tribesman is a nice fit for that "barbarian" feel that the Danzi seem to be.

That is a good idea.

[RockJock]

I've used Danzi in HU as sort of a lost tribe type of group, and they fit really well. Not too different from your Native America idea in practice, but in a sort of lost island/valley situation.