Is Choking someone with telekinesis possible?

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Is choking someone with telekinesis possible?

Poll ended at Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:30 pm

Yes
1
4%
No
17
68%
Yes but only with Super Tk
2
8%
Yes but the target gets a saving throw
5
20%
 
Total votes: 25

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Is Choking someone with telekinesis possible?

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Re: Is Choking someone with telekinesis possible?

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Technically, I would say no, not with direct TK force.
It moves objects, but that's not the same as squeezing them.
It's the kind of question to which there is no 100% clear answer, though.
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Killer Cyborg wrote:Technically, I would say no, not with direct TK force.
It moves objects, but that's not the same as squeezing them.
It's the kind of question to which there is no 100% clear answer, though.


Agreed, since with even the 'it moves objects', there will be somebody who will ask "Okay, and what if I telekinetically hold an object hard across their throat and crush their windpipe with it?". Some might argue that's a matter of dodging, others a test of strength.
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taalismn wrote:
Killer Cyborg wrote:Technically, I would say no, not with direct TK force.
It moves objects, but that's not the same as squeezing them.
It's the kind of question to which there is no 100% clear answer, though.


Agreed, since with even the 'it moves objects', there will be somebody who will ask "Okay, and what if I telekinetically hold an object hard across their throat and crush their windpipe with it?". Some might argue that's a matter of dodging, others a test of strength.


Right. I might allow TK to use a noose or a garotte to strangle somebody... but then it's the object doing the strangling, not the TK directly, which is what I assume the question is about.
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Re: Is Choking someone with telekinesis possible?

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I agree by itself no but you can use it to choke with another object, you can do a blood choke with a shirt or do a air way choke with some types of body armor. (A vest style armor can be raised and drawn back to choke eba would be unlikely to be used this way)
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With TK or TK: Super alone, no chocking is not possible without a "tool" to manipulate. TK powers are limited in function, otherwise you wouldn't have some of the other specialized variants of TK (Punch, Push, Leap, Lift, Acceleration Attack, Force Field, Float, etc). The only two powers, off hand, that can likely choke directly is Bio-Manipulation and Ectoplasm (solid form deployed to block airway), hypnotic suggestion might also make you think you are, A flexible GM might also allow Psychic Surgery to work in reverse.
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I say no because I feel that requires finer control/manipulation than what either TK or TK: Super allows.
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I'm also on the "No, save through intermediary object" camp.
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Page 170 of RUE states that TK can't be used as a crushing attack in and of itself. Choking someone would be a crushing attack. Using an object to do it would require figuring out how much force TK exerts for the ISP spent, and putting that up against the victim's PS attribute.
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I say no as well. There is a super psionic power in Rifter 25 though called Telekinetic Force which would do that.
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Can someone Darth Vader someone with TK?……

It all depends on what the GM will allow.

There is nothing in the TK text that says it can be done, and none saying it can't be done.
Generally I rule that if someone wishes to TK someone, that someone gets a save verses Psionics.
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Re: Is Choking someone with telekinesis possible?

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If someone was sleeping you could TK a heavy beam across their throat, of course.

Bruce Wayne might be able to bench press that off his chest but skull crushers take your pecs out of the movement so pushups don't help so much, it's all triceps baby, you need handstand pushups or overheard presses to built those long heads.
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