Forensically tracking Shifters how to?

[St. Evil]

Can a Shifter track a Shifter through portals/ rifts, that already are closed? If so how would you do that? On a cold trail and told my GM I would go to the boards to see if we can get some info, personally new to Rifts so am still getting a feel for this system as opposed to PF.

[say652]

I would allow it, if the Shifter was a minor psionic with clairvoyance.

[Nekira Sudacne]

Can a Shifter track a Shifter through portals/ rifts, that already are closed? If so how would you do that? On a cold trail and told my GM I would go to the boards to see if we can get some info, personally new to Rifts so am still getting a feel for this system as opposed to PF.

They have no particular ability to track them once the rift/portal is already closed, no, tracking someone interdimensionally is feindishly difficult.

[say652]

Shifter with clairvoyance and Astral projection stands the best chance of tracking dimension hopping targets.

[eliakon]

Shifter with clairvoyance and Astral projection stands the best chance of tracking dimension hopping targets.

Assuming that your GM doesn't run Clairvoyance as written and has house ruled it sure....

As written though there is pretty much no way to track dimensional travelers.....which is why dimensional raiders are able to do stuff like hit Splynn and survive.....once they get a way its a massive pain for even the Splugorth to track them down.

[say652]

I give subtle clues and vision drag out the trail for a couple adventures.

[The Beast]

Can a Shifter track a Shifter through portals/ rifts, that already are closed? If so how would you do that? On a cold trail and told my GM I would go to the boards to see if we can get some info, personally new to Rifts so am still getting a feel for this system as opposed to PF.

Reopen Gateway could be used if the target left via a permanent dimensional portal and it wasn't opened to another location since then.

If the GM allows it, Rifter 5 has a spell called Dimensional Tracker for Spatial Mages.

I think there may be one official spell that allows it, but I can't recall the name atm.

[say652]

Also object read can provide clues if something was left behind.

[Fell]

Ley Line Rifter

RUE page 117

Hitchhiking into another's teleport ect.

This would allow a LLR to follow a Shifter. But yeah Rifter #5 as said above.

[ShadowLogan]

Can a Shifter track a Shifter through portals/ rifts, that already are closed? If so how would you do that? On a cold trail and told my GM I would go to the boards to see if we can get some info, personally new to Rifts so am still getting a feel for this system as opposed to PF.

Depends on what Spells and Psychic powers they have and where those portals went. Outside of what's been mentioned.

Oracle/Clairvoyance might work.

Second Sight (Spell) might work if they are w/n range and did not leave this dimension. A TW version with proper spell chain might even be able to overcome the dimension and range limitations. Though this will take time to acquire if you don't have it already. In any case this requires you to have known/met the target.

Object read might give impressions on the portal, depending on how the GM views the power working

Time Travel back to when the portal was opened via Rift (technically time travel is possible via Rifts IINM).

[St. Evil]

Thanks for the quick response, everyone. Will have to look into your suggestions.

[Tor]

Although not related to the body of the original post, the thread title itself keeps making me think...

How, forensically, would people investigate crimes committed by Shifter minions and tie them to the Shifter guilty of controlling them?

I realize there is interrogation but some things like Elementals would not see, compatible with it.

[eliakon]

Although not related to the body of the original post, the thread title itself keeps making me think...

How, forensically, would people investigate crimes committed by Shifter minions and tie them to the Shifter guilty of controlling them?

I realize there is interrogation but some things like Elementals would not see, compatible with it.

Same way you would do anything of the sort...
Lots of divinations and lots of detective work.

[Razorwing]

Shifter with clairvoyance and Astral projection stands the best chance of tracking dimension hopping targets.

Assuming that your GM doesn't run Clairvoyance as written and has house ruled it sure....

As written though there is pretty much no way to track dimensional travelers.....which is why dimensional raiders are able to do stuff like hit Splynn and survive.....once they get a way its a massive pain for even the Splugorth to track them down.

Ren the Hunter would tend to disagree as his write-up in WB21 states that he has succeeded numerous times in tracking down raiders that have fled to other dimensions.

Psionics like Read Dimensional Portal could help a tracker identify where a closed portal last lead to (assuming that a more recent portal hasn't been opened in the area since) and Sense Dimensional Anomaly can help in tracking where such a portal was opened. True, these powers are generally used on active portals, but a lenient GM could let them aid in tracking opponents across dimensions. Shifters and Ley Line Rifters, with their intimate understanding of Ley Lines and Dimensional travel would also make good trackers as their expertise would allow them to more easily anticipate common destinations of such raiders.

Yes, the older the trail and the more dimensions it the raiders pass through, the greater their chances of getting away, but there will always be some residual trace to follow, at least for a little while.

[eliakon]

Shifter with clairvoyance and Astral projection stands the best chance of tracking dimension hopping targets.

Assuming that your GM doesn't run Clairvoyance as written and has house ruled it sure....

As written though there is pretty much no way to track dimensional travelers.....which is why dimensional raiders are able to do stuff like hit Splynn and survive.....once they get a way its a massive pain for even the Splugorth to track them down.

Ren the Hunter would tend to disagree as his write-up in WB21 states that he has succeeded numerous times in tracking down raiders that have fled to other dimensions.

Psionics like Read Dimensional Portal could help a tracker identify where a closed portal last lead to (assuming that a more recent portal hasn't been opened in the area since) and Sense Dimensional Anomaly can help in tracking where such a portal was opened. True, these powers are generally used on active portals, but a lenient GM could let them aid in tracking opponents across dimensions. Shifters and Ley Line Rifters, with their intimate understanding of Ley Lines and Dimensional travel would also make good trackers as their expertise would allow them to more easily anticipate common destinations of such raiders.

Yes, the older the trail and the more dimensions it the raiders pass through, the greater their chances of getting away, but there will always be some residual trace to follow, at least for a little while.

Hence the reason I said "its a pain" not "Its impossible"
Sure the splugorth can do it. But its obviously not easy, otherwise 1) they wouldn't need a specialist doing the job and 2) they would be able to catch enough to make the raids to risky

[kaid]

Can a Shifter track a Shifter through portals/ rifts, that already are closed? If so how would you do that? On a cold trail and told my GM I would go to the boards to see if we can get some info, personally new to Rifts so am still getting a feel for this system as opposed to PF.

Reopen Gateway could be used if the target left via a permanent dimensional portal and it wasn't opened to another location since then.

If the GM allows it, Rifter 5 has a spell called Dimensional Tracker for Spatial Mages.

I think there may be one official spell that allows it, but I can't recall the name atm.

Yup pretty much this. If they are going through a permanent or semi premanent rift such as some of the ones that lead to wormwood you could reopen the portal and go. Some nexus rifts have a limited amount of destinations and for those a shifter may be able to make some informed guesses as to which his quarry would choose.

But otherwise its nearly impossible unless you have some idea where the targets favorite haunts are.

[St. Evil]

Once again thank you all, am going over various powers and spell to see what is best suited for my character/group.