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Reaver Assassin.....

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Not to screw with another thread even though they are related.

The Reaver Assassin OCC has 1% Master Psychics. How is this done? Do you take a Burster with all of it's given abilities and then wipe out skills to replace with Special Reaver Assassin OCC Bonuses and Reaver Assassin OCC skills? There are no examples and no rules for handling this. It looks like you take whatever Master Psychic class and just change the skillset to RA and anything else would be house ruled.

What is your interpretation?
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What book are the Reaver Assassins in?
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Nightmask wrote:What book are the Reaver Assassins in?


WB 17 Warlords of Russia
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RiftJunkie wrote:
Nightmask wrote:What book are the Reaver Assassins in?


WB 17 Warlords of Russia


Ahhh, okay. Afraid I haven't got any of the Russian books to provide feedback on it.
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RiftJunkie wrote:Not to screw with another thread even though they are related.

The Reaver Assassin OCC has 1% Master Psychics. How is this done? Do you take a Burster with all of it's given abilities and then wipe out skills to replace with Special Reaver Assassin OCC Bonuses and Reaver Assassin OCC skills? There are no examples and no rules for handling this. It looks like you take whatever Master Psychic class and just change the skillset to RA and anything else would be house ruled.

What is your interpretation?

Greetings and Salutations. Okay, I did a quick read (I skimmed for things I thought important), and this is my take on it.

RWB17; page 77 (discussing "Reaver O.C.C.s" as a whole): "Character who possess magical or psionic powers [snip] may fall into the Reaver category, but use the O.C.C. description, background and skill of that particular occupation."

So a Burster (to use your example) may be considered a Reaver Assassin, but use the background and skills of the Burster. So as far as Russia is concerned, he's a Reaver Assassin. As far as game mechanics go, he's a Burster.

The part where it mentions that 1% of Reaver Assassins are master psychics is in the same section that discussions % of alignments and % or races. You don't roll % here to determine if you're a human or a D-Bee. You don't roll here to see if you're an Anarchist or Diabolic. You don't roll here to see if you're a psychic or not. That's all done up normally. The only thing this section is telling you is that psychics are not very common among Reaver Assassins. This is NOT listed as part of their O.C.C. bonuses or abilities, just part of the general statistics (which is then followed up by skills and such).

That's my take on it at least. Hope that helps. Farewell and safe journeys for now.
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Prysus wrote:
RiftJunkie wrote:Not to screw with another thread even though they are related.

The Reaver Assassin OCC has 1% Master Psychics. How is this done? Do you take a Burster with all of it's given abilities and then wipe out skills to replace with Special Reaver Assassin OCC Bonuses and Reaver Assassin OCC skills? There are no examples and no rules for handling this. It looks like you take whatever Master Psychic class and just change the skillset to RA and anything else would be house ruled.

What is your interpretation?

Greetings and Salutations. Okay, I did a quick read (I skimmed for things I thought important), and this is my take on it.

RWB17; page 77 (discussing "Reaver O.C.C.s" as a whole): "Character who possess magical or psionic powers [snip] may fall into the Reaver category, but use the O.C.C. description, background and skill of that particular occupation."

So a Burster (to use your example) may be considered a Reaver Assassin, but use the background and skills of the Burster. So as far as Russia is concerned, he's a Reaver Assassin. As far as game mechanics go, he's a Burster.

The part where it mentions that 1% of Reaver Assassins are master psychics is in the same section that discussions % of alignments and % or races. You don't roll % here to determine if you're a human or a D-Bee. You don't roll here to see if you're an Anarchist or Diabolic. You don't roll here to see if you're a psychic or not. That's all done up normally. The only thing this section is telling you is that psychics are not very common among Reaver Assassins. This is NOT listed as part of their O.C.C. bonuses or abilities, just part of the general statistics (which is then followed up by skills and such).

That's my take on it at least. Hope that helps. Farewell and safe journeys for now.


When I read it again, it came off like a Burster OCC/RCC/PCC would have the "Title" and/or "Status" of Reaver. Anybody can be hired as an assassin without actually being the "Reaver Assassin OCC". The stuff on page 76 and 77 makes it out that foreigners of any OCC can become a "Reaver" (meaning a title or position) for a Warlord. It didn't specify the individual Reaver OCCs. So a Gunslinger could be a Reaver in a Warlords camp and do the job of assassin and still not be a Reaver Assassin.

To take the Reaver Assassin OCC, should mean taking the bonuses and skillset of the Reaver Assassin. Under Psionics, it states that they are not required but gives a breakdown of percentages for minor/major/master. Shouldn't this mean (even though there are no specific rules given) that there can be Master Psionic Reaver Assassins? The Smoke Soldier and the War Knight also have the possibility for Master Psychics. Only the War Knight description explains how to handle it for that class (all the psionic abilities of the Mind Melter, minus 10% of the usual ISP and half of the super psionics. They get the OCC skills for War Knight, but none of the related skills. Only 4 related by the way.). This would seem to me that only the War Knight has a restriction or it should/would have been listed for the Smoke Soldier or Reaver Assassin because PB likes to cut and paste and that would be really easy to do.
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I think the master psionic is a misprint. It doesn't make sense for them to be a full on psychic class, mechanically, while still gaining their other training...but there's a while other thread about that. :P
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Alrik Vas wrote:I think the master psionic is a misprint. It doesn't make sense for them to be a full on psychic class, mechanically, while still gaining their other training...but there's a while other thread about that. :P


Yeah, I get that. It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It'd be nice if it was more clear.
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