Yeno GunSlingers

[Secondhand Smoke]

Kick A**e!

Seriously, you guys got to check them out. Stick 'em in a MDC Poncho for extra badassitude and style and make sure they have a cigar in their mouths at all times!
Their cantankerous nature mixed with being a deadly slinger works beautifully, I've taken a lot of inspiration from Tuco in The Good, The Bad and The Ugly in how I play mine and it is without a doubt the most fun I've had.

Anyway I need to clear up some confusion so I submit myself to your bloated knowledge of all things dice.

In Rifts Canada the Yeno is shown as being a minor MDC being however in D-Bees of NA it is shown as an SDC being with MDC Hit Points....
So what is it?

Lastly this text here
"Yeno Energy Weavers are notorious for taking up the profession
of assassin, killer for hire, bounty hunter, bandit and Gunslinger
(the latter may use a handgun as well as his own natural
energy blasts)." - Canada page 139.

This seems to suggest his slinging bonus apply to his energy blasts. Which logically makes sense, because if I could shoot projectiles out of my hand at will you can bet your sweet ass I'm going to train my aim and quick draw with it.
Also it makes the Yeno that much more badass. (More akin to what the Psi-Slinger should have been imo)

Anyway your thoughts?

[Secondhand Smoke]

Just to add, our group has been treating it as a minor MDC being but the fact it is able to splits it's damage between SDC and MDC (Energy Blasts) and the two differing Health Stats does have me confused.

[Mack]

The accepted practice is that newer books trump older ones, thus DBees of NA would take precedence. However, if your group decides to use the Canada description (with MDC), or decides to use both types simultaneously, it's all good.

Personally, I would not add his Gunslinger bonuses to the natural energy blasts, but it's a GM's decision. Your mileage may vary.

[Secondhand Smoke]

So that means, once you manage to deplete a Yeno's SDC, the only way to kill him is to pull out an MDC weapon and attack his MDC hitpoints? D-Bees of NA

Or Canada, no he's just a minor mdc being.

I know I've repeated myself and thank you for a response. But surely they got the description in D-Bees of NA wrong?

[eliakon]

I would say that the 'SDC with MD HP' thing means that they can be cut, bleed, etc from SDC attacks....but those wont KILL them. So if you shoot them with a SDC pistol they will take damage, and bleed. They will get real mad at you and shoot you back...but your not going to KILL them that way.

[Slight001]

This is about the stupid +1d6 M.D. per level of experience isn't it?

Hit Points: 1D6+P.E. attribute number, +1D6 M.D. per level of experience, starting at level one.

I'd say its a simple case of the M.D. not being replaced with H.P.

This is reinforced by this quote.

M.D.C.: Via body armor or natural M.D.C. force field (see Natural Abilities).

[eliakon]

This is about the stupid +1d6 M.D. per level of experience isn't it?

Hit Points: 1D6+P.E. attribute number, +1D6 M.D. per level of experience, starting at level one.

I'd say its a simple case of the M.D. not being replaced with H.P.

This is reinforced by this quote.

M.D.C.: Via body armor or natural M.D.C. force field (see Natural Abilities).

So the Yeno is SDC, but its Force Field is MDC....
(Note I really should go dig out my WB 30 for this I guess.......)

[Mack]

I believe the MD HP thing was a simple typo or cut/paste error.

[Secondhand Smoke]

I've just realised what they did. They stripped him of his original role as an mdc d-bee and made him an sdc d-bee but decided to give him a few mdc in hitpoints instead. So to truly finish him off you would need a MDC weapon, but he is vulnerable to sdc.
However as part of the trade off they significantly strengthened his forceshield.
His forcefield from canada was 30mdc +10mdc per level,
Which has now become 2d4x10+PE MDC + 3D8mdc per level.

Makes sense to me now, thank you all for the help. I'll inform the GM and make adjustments to my sheet (tbh I quite like it more as this, adds even more flavour)

[Daniel Stoker]

No I think that as others have said it was bad copy and pasting and the MD in Hit Points wasn't changed when they made them SDC and upped the MDC on his force field. This would be the only being that is both SDC and MDC at once and while Palladium is anything but stable with the rules that just seems silly.


Daniel Stoker

[eliakon]

No I think that as others have said it was bad copy and pasting and the MD in Hit Points wasn't changed when they made them SDC and upped the MDC on his force field. This would be the only being that is both SDC and MDC at once and while Palladium is anything but stable with the rules that just seems silly.


Daniel Stoker

This
Yeno have
Personal SDC
Personal HP
Force Field MDC
(this is especially evident when it says that they only have MDC by 'armor or force field....)

[Zer0 Kay]

No I think that as others have said it was bad copy and pasting and the MD in Hit Points wasn't changed when they made them SDC and upped the MDC on his force field. This would be the only being that is both SDC and MDC at once and while Palladium is anything but stable with the rules that just seems silly.


Daniel Stoker

This
Yeno have
Personal SDC
Personal HP
Force Field MDC
(this is especially evident when it says that they only have MDC by 'armor or force field....)

so... Would this be thirding or forting the motion? Should we form a board and call for a vote