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#1. no idea what they are referring to with Symbiotic Armor at the time. Could catch. (Edit for reference purposes: Rifts Mercenaries pg27-8 for the Super Spy Description).

#2. With maybe the exception of TWdry, I would have to say no. All the PPE has to be available at the time of casting. You can't bank PPE naturally, but you can use talisman and (IINM) an Energy Sphere to store PPE for later use. High PPE cost magic can be cast under the right conditions, like having a group pool PPE, sacrifice, Ley Line/Nexus PPE bonuses (various types), etc.
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likwitmc wrote:1. Symbiotic Armor: What book is this in? In the equipment section for Super Spy it says they can start with Magic or Symbiotic Armor.

2. Magical Crafting: When casting a big spell, creating a big item, etc. Can you spend your ppe and bank it towards the effect? Like, if a spell costs 1,000 can you spend a 100 each day for tens days?

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1. I'm not sure what book you refer to when talking about Super Spy. Please clarify with book and page. EDIT Thanks, Yeah I'm not sure either other than the Cyber Knight's armor... which I'm pretty sure it doesn't mean unless you were a CK that was frozen at level 2.

2. No, you have to get the PPE other ways. Such as creating Talismans, harvesting from other people/casters, using power from a nexus, etc.
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2 = Agreeing with what the others have said.

1 = Not really sure what was meant by "symbiotic armor." That book was written way before Splicers. That's the only armor I can think of that meets that description. Maybe there's an armor from DB1 or the Splugorth that we've missed.
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"Symbiotic Armor" sounds like something that was cut from some book.
OR something from Atlantis, OR something from Wormwood (which wouldn't function on Rifts Earth)
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1) Pretty sure that "Symbiotic Armor" refers to the Splugorth symbiotes found in Atlantis.

2) No.
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likwitmc wrote:1. Symbiotic Armor: What book is this in? In the equipment section for Super Spy it says they can start with Magic or Symbiotic Armor.

2. Magical Crafting: When casting a big spell, creating a big item, etc. Can you spend your ppe and bank it towards the effect? Like, if a spell costs 1,000 can you spend a 100 each day for tens days?

Thanks!

(1)
point one: The super spy is in the Mercenaries book, and at the time the only 'symbiotic' anything in rifts that might of fit the bill was in the Atlantis WB. However, I believe it was to let the GM or player 'make something up' to fit the char concept.

Now days, added to those, there are the Splicer armors that fit the bill, along with a high level cyber armor.

(2)
If the mage has PPE batteries the mage can store the PPE. But if a spell is uncompleted or unpowered, it dissipates/derezzes/comes apart within moments of the mage abandoning it.

Now Alchemists and Techno wizards do something like this when creating their magic items. Enchanting a little bit each item they work on the magic item.
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OR it could refer to the demonic armor that (iirc) is in the Mercenaries book, although that's more power armor/robot stuff.
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Mack wrote:1) Pretty sure that "Symbiotic Armor" refers to the Splugorth symbiotes found in Atlantis.

2) No.

Which splugorth symbiote would be "armor"? many of them add to MDC, but none are so covering as to be "armor"
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It could be a reference to Bio-Wiz transmutation, an Elom, a Chest Amalgamate, or even just Transfortifiers. Probably left up to the GM to decide what is balanced.
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Svartalf wrote:
Mack wrote:1) Pretty sure that "Symbiotic Armor" refers to the Splugorth symbiotes found in Atlantis.

2) No.

Which splugorth symbiote would be "armor"? many of them add to MDC, but none are so covering as to be "armor"


Some of the stuff in the Market book would be... but it wasn't out yet.
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Why couldn't it be a wormwood symbiote? Wasn't there an armor one?
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The line in Super Spy is "Psychic or wizard spies can select one techno-wizard weapon, instead of an energy weapon. Body armor can be any type, including magic or symbotic, but tends to be lightweight armor..."

I think it basically is talking about the symbotic creatures in the Atlantis World Book 2. There are several Symbotic creatures which give a being MDC.
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Zer0 Kay wrote:Why couldn't it be a wormwood symbiote? Wasn't there an armor one?

All wormwood specific items, except the Apok Mask, do not survive being taken off/out of Wormwood. as per the Wordwood text on the topic.
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drewkitty ~..~ wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:Why couldn't it be a wormwood symbiote? Wasn't there an armor one?

All wormwood specific items, except the Apok Mask, do not survive being taken off/out of Wormwood. as per the Wordwood text on the topic.


correct but that doesn't mean that the occ were speaking of that is on wormwood couldn't have that as his starting equipment.

Edit: Wow that was terrible wording. Correct, however that doesn't mean that the OCC in question, in a game starting in Wormwood, would not have Wormwood symbiote armor(if it exists) available as starting armor.
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Not out THEN, but out now....the Biomancers of South America can make symbiotic wood and chitin armor......
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Mack wrote:1) Pretty sure that "Symbiotic Armor" refers to the Splugorth symbiotes found in Atlantis.

2) No.



I would concur the symbiote armor they are speaking of is from rifts atlantis and there are I think some new varieties available in the atlantis 2 splynn dimensional market book.
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The absure life node and chest amalgam horror thing are I think the two main symbiotic armors.
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The node is pretty easy to conceal and a lot less obvious than the evil chest grabber thing. The other option is bio borg upgrades for MDC durability but I am pretty sure the life node and the chest thing where what they were referencing.
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