and now let us Munchkin

say652 · Unread post by **say652** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:51 pm

Munchkin doesnt mean rewriting rules as you see fit yo.

Use the rules as written and quasi legally combining stuff for a oltra powerful chatacter.

How come no one has posted a single blackvault character???

You have to hunt and search and read and.....learn but a few munchkin useful powers are there.

say652 · Unread post by **say652** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:38 pm

Still no using two alter character powers at the same time. Leaves you open to debate in munchkining.

Multiple selves.
Invulnerable.
Supernatural Strength (rolled as a minor of course)
Flight:wingless.
Underwater abilities.

Call this one "romaN Legion".

Hystrix · Unread post by **Hystrix** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:07 am

Rappanui wrote:Since when was Create Force field allowed to recharge his shield with ME?

My post earlier hhe had Extraordinary PE.

Now he has (1 Major 2 Minor)
Create Force Feild
Extraordinary PE
Extraordinary ME

say652 · Unread post by **say652** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:44 am

Moving along↑↑↑ ???

Concealment.
Multiple selves.
Sonic flight.
Superhuman Strength.
NightStalking.
Healing Factor.

say652 · Unread post by **say652** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:02 am

I like this one.

I used an Alien Vagabond as a bad guy.

Control insects.
Growth.
Shrinking.
Superhuman Strength.
Flight:insect wings.
Manipulate kinetic energy.

A white faced hornet girl. Rappuni I may have to use your powerset and add it to my bug team.

Hystrix · Unread post by **Hystrix** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:39 am

say652 wrote:Moving along↑↑↑ ???

He asked a question. I answered it. Moving along...

say652 · Unread post by **say652** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:44 am

I am still unsure how you could instantly recharge your forcefield pool.
I bend n flex n houserule often but, nowhere have I read or heard a high mental endurance allows you to recharge your forcefield pool.

I was tryinh to keep the thread light and fun but...........

say652 · Unread post by **say652** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:48 am

Quantum Teleport.
Aps:fire.
Intangibility.

Yes your limited to 50 feet the amount of copies equal to your M.E. lets say 20.

So you summon your copies. 20.
The begin going nuclear. You keep fighting.
Then become intangible.

Super nova times twenty damage AND no penalties for losing copies!!!

Repeat adnauseum lol.

Hystrix · Unread post by **Hystrix** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:49 am

say652 wrote:I am still unsure how you could instantly recharge your forcefield pool.
I bend n flex n houserule often but, nowhere have I read or heard a high mental endurance allows you to recharge your forcefield pool.

I was tryinh to keep the thread light and fun but...........

Well, IIRC the force feild would have (in this case) 3000 MDC worth of force feild. Meaning he could create 15 (200) MDC force feilds. I had a player a LOOONG time ago use this. I admit my understanding of this power could be off. However, that player was very effective with his abilities (and a little disruptive too). That why I classify it as munchin.

I realize it's not as sexy as some of the other super powers, but dang it, it worked...

say652 · Unread post by **say652** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:50 am

I thought you found a trick or loophole to instantly recharge the ffp. Dang.

say652 · Unread post by **say652** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:19 pm

Experiment.Megahero.
Titan Juicer.
Mega power:immortality
Weakness: Only able to function 5 years plus 4D6 months before entering a healing coma lasting 3D4 years.

So far the process has only been used on humans and is offered to loyal Neph Co. Employees and members in high standing with The Church of Moonshade.

Nephelonious Moonshade runs the NephCo industries. Produces elven wine, mystic vodka, and the MoonShade Juicer conversion.

Desmond Moonshade runs the Church of Moonshade. Most members are Physical Training, Shifters, and the occasional Moonshade Juicer. Desmond dislikes the Ms Juicer process because uts a waste of a follower when theur prayers fall silent for up to twelve years but, he appeases his Pantheon lord by using these "specialized units" which again he knows for a fact his personal bodyguard could easily defeat. So far though he keeps a squadron of ten in GreenBrook running patrols on the borders and refuses to allow them any positions of power or knowledge to avoid creating future rivals.

Nephelonious on the other hand employees a standibg army of twenty thousand to protect his hidden shadow realm from other supernatural Intelligences.

Killer Cyborg · Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:50 pm

say652 wrote:All entries limited to level:1

The Damned Swede
Race: Human
OCC: Wilderness Scout
Height: 6'1
Weight: 280 lbs

Powers:
Invulnerability- (Mega-damage being. Impervious to most damage: supernatural punches (etc.) inflict 1/2 damage. Magic weapons, psionics, and spell magic have full effects- unless they're energy type magic, in which case there's no damage.

Growth- Can increase height and mass. 2' per 1 point of PE. +15 MDC per foot of height. Supernatural PS, +1 per 1' of additional height. +2 strike/parry when over 20' tall. Speed is doubled. Horror Factor of 9 (at 8' tall) +1 per 6' of additional height. -4 to dodge when giant.

Divine Aura- Awe/Horror Factor: 14.
Followers- 1 per level.
Power of Command- once per three melees, a command can be issued. Target must save vs. psionics or comply, losing one action in the process.
Voice Amplification- voice can be heard up to 1,600'
Power of Illusion- Can appear twice as big as he really is (+2 horror/awe).
Immune To Magic (PU1 31)
Immune to Psionics (PU1 31)
Extraordinary Physical Prowess

Original Hit Points: 42
Original SDC: 219
Mega-Damage being on Rifts Earth: 261 MDC instead of Hit Points.
This is dropped to 174 MDC total by the Immune to Magic Power.

IQ: 11
ME: 29 (+8 vs. psionics, +13 vs insanity)
MA: 20 (Trust/Intimidate at 60%)
PS: 30 (Supernatural Punch: 3d6 MD)
PE: 36 (+8 vs magic/poison)
PP: 21 (+3 to strike/parry/dodge, included in HTH stats)
PB: 12
SPD: 50 (100 when giant)

At full height (78' tall, although his Power Of Illusion can make him appear 156' tall):
PS: 102 (Punch damage... I'm not sure. Like 2d6x10 MD, probably?)
MDC: 894 total (after the reduction from Immune To Magic)
Weight: 3,880 lbs

HTH: Tae Kwon Do (allowed as per p. 165 of N&S)
+8 initiative
6 attacks per melee
+3 Strike
+8 Parry
+10 Dodge
+6 Automatic Dodge
+6 Roll With Impact
+4 pull punch
+1 disarm
+2 maintain balance
+2 kick damage
Critical Strike From Behind
Death Blow on Natural 20
Body Block/Tackle: 1d4 damage (3d6 when taller than 12'), plus knockdown.
Pin/Incapacitate: Natural 18+
Crush/Squeeze: 1d4 SDC (3d6 when taller than 12')
Roundhouse Kick: 3d6
Axe Kick: 2d8
Knee Strike: 1d8
Leap Kick: 3d8 (takes 2 attacks)
Butjapgo Chagi: One opponent is grabbed, and another is kicked. One attack, two strike rolls.

Martial Arts Powers:
Zanshin: 6' radius
Kaijutsu:
Stun- Save vs. Pain or be stunned for 1d4 melees, able to defend but not to attack.
Force Yell- Knocks the enemy back. Save vs. Pain or be knocked back 3d6 feet and lose one attack. 40' radius.
Shock Yell- Save vs. Pain or take 1d6 damage. Targets can Roll with Impact. 40' radius.
Death Yell- One target only. 20' range. Save vs. Lethal Poison or take 4d6 damage. Roll for 1/2 damage.

Perception: +3

Save Bonuses:
+2 vs Poison/Disease
+66% vs Coma/Death

Skills:
Trail Blazing: 20%
Cross-Country Pacing: 35%
Cartography: 40%
Basic Math: 50%
Language: American: 94%
Language: Japanese: +65%
Language: Dragonese: +65%
Language: Korean 50%
Athletics (General)
Hunting
Boxing
Wrestling
Aerobic Athletics
Body Building & Weight Lifting
Running
Gymnastics (varies)
Kick Boxing
Forced March
Physical Labor
Swimming: 50%
Cooking: 50%
Climbing: 70%/60%
Fishing: 55%
Horsemanship: General: 70%/50%
Identify Fruits and Plants: 45%
Land Navigation: 56%
Pilot: Motorcycle: 84%
Prowl: 50%
Radio: Basic: 55%
Track Animal: +40%/50%
WP Knife
WP Paired Weapons
WP Blunt
WP Heavy Mega-Damage Weapons
Wilderness Survival: 50%
Sense of Balance: 45%
Zen: 80%

Lenwen · Unread post by **Lenwen** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:30 pm

Level 5 Super munch.

APS - Liquid.

Multiple Selves. ( 5 selves.)

Extraordinary Speed. (300mph)

This places 5 beings, who are 30ft tall, 35,000 lbs who are able to run at 300 MPH , and are invulnerable to any physical damage, (including explosions)

Now imagine these 5 beings all coming at their target max speed from 5 different angles.

Going by palladium "raw" I KNOW .. thats going to be putting the hurt on ANYTHING ..

say652 · Unread post by **say652** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:41 pm

So at level one like the thread states

Two water giants traveling at 220 mph.
Soft to energy magic and psionics. Impressive vampire killer in rifts though I'm sure.

Lenwen · Unread post by **Lenwen** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:14 pm

say652 wrote:So at level one like the thread states

Ok kewl, did not read first page, and had no clue it was "limited" munch..

Incoming new creation following the "limited" munch rules you set forth..

Mack · Unread post by **Mack** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:23 pm

So here's a combo I normally argue against, but for this topic why not?

Titan Juicer (JU p32) turned into a Cold Blooded (Merc Adventures p19).
-- Makes an average 1327.5 MDC at level one
-- Plus all the other advantages of a Cold Blooded

Lenwen · Unread post by **Lenwen** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:29 pm

Level 1 Mega Villain.

All standard Mega powers

Special Mega power : Undead.

1 Major power - Intangability.

2 Minor Power - Mental Stun.

Killer Cyborg · Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:35 pm

Mack wrote:So here's a combo I normally argue against, but for this topic why not?

Titan Juicer (JU p32) turned into a Cold Blooded (Merc Adventures p19).
-- Makes an average 1327.5 MDC at level one
-- Plus all the other advantages of a Cold Blooded

Not bad!

Mouser13 · Unread post by **Mouser13** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:36 pm

Invisible:Simple.
Combat Magic spells. Can't remember the names off the top of my head.
Invisible:: Sensors
Invisible:: Mystic & psychic.

Now you can't be seen by anything.

Killer Cyborg · Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:27 pm

Rappanui wrote:lol, sad, my lvl 1 quickflex Gladiator in k100 universal power armor could STILL beat this guy senseless and without bending any rules what so ever.and has a higher initiative to boot.

Any time you want to rumble....
:bandit:

say652 · Unread post by **say652** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:19 pm

How about I run a short adventure, the survivor wins.lol.

I now present.

Kreegor Physical training adept. Focus strength n Endurance, Defensive and fast combat style.

A jukin and jivin Crocodile man. That at high levels xan dodge and parry bullets n Energy blasts O.o

Lenwen · Unread post by **Lenwen** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:18 pm

say652 wrote:That at high levels xan dodge and parry bullets n Energy blasts O.o

Sept you, as the original poster, already told me not more then 5 posts, ago .. it has to be lvl 1 munch.

Are you now then changing the rule set ?

say652 · Unread post by **say652** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:21 pm

Nope but they start out with six attacks.

Tor · Unread post by **Tor** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:52 am

Killer Cyborg wrote:The single most munchkin thing in the Rifts universe, outside of a Mulka

I don't understand why everyone is so afraid of those things. How good are they at dodging soul-drinkers?

I bet Salome could take one down easy.

Killer Cyborg · Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:17 am

Tor wrote:
Killer Cyborg wrote:The single most munchkin thing in the Rifts universe, outside of a Mulka
I don't understand why everyone is so afraid of those things. How good are they at dodging soul-drinkers?

I bet Salome could take one down easy.

No known attacks hurt Mulkas.
None have ever been killed, in spite of an enormous bounty.
Magic attacks on them go strangely awry, and I don't think that soul drinking would be an ecpxception.

say652 · Unread post by **say652** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:28 am

Mulkas are basically the gm walking around your gamr. Ultimate Munchkin.

say652 · Unread post by **say652** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:07 am

I support simostrikes excellent strategy.

Get in there and bang kid!!!

say652 · Unread post by **say652** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:13 am

Or more importantly attach fusion blocks. Or lead him into an ambush.

say652 · Unread post by **say652** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 3:07 am

The protection from psychic negayes it but. Get him to chase you into a building activate the sprinklers and its game on. Or flashbang your both fighting blind. Or fight them in the dark.

Tor · Unread post by **Tor** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 3:10 am

Killer Cyborg wrote:No known attacks hurt Mulkas.

Are souldrinkers known in the Manhunter dimension?

Killer Cyborg wrote:None have ever been killed, in spite of an enormous bounty.

Does the Manhunter universe have Souldrinkers though?

Killer Cyborg wrote:Magic attacks on them go strangely awry, and I don't think that soul drinking would be an ecpxception.

I don't know if it qualifies as a magic attack though, it's not exactly a spell.

say652 · Unread post by **say652** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 3:20 am

Tor I think they so many bonuses vs magic it's nearly impossible for them to fail a save.
I do remember reading a thread on how to kill one though but, why bother. Books outa print game line is deceased. They no longer exist. Its like saying Tarrasque. Lol

Killer Cyborg · Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:01 am

Tor wrote:
Killer Cyborg wrote:No known attacks hurt Mulkas.
Are souldrinkers known in the Manhunter dimension?
Killer Cyborg wrote:None have ever been killed, in spite of an enormous bounty.
Does the Manhunter universe have Souldrinkers though?

Don't know.

Killer Cyborg wrote:Magic attacks on them go strangely awry, and I don't think that soul drinking would be an ecpxception.

I don't know if it qualifies as a magic attack though, it's not exactly a spell.[/quote]

IF you can find a non-magical soul-drinking weapon, let me know.
Or if you can find one that can drink souls without cutting the target (and drawing blood) first.

Here's the Abilities section for the Mulka:
The Mulka are completely impervious to all manners of Magic, Psionic and Physical force. They have limitless abilities and are completely unpredictable. WHile nothing het has been found to harm them, it is highly likely that something does exist. The various anti-Mulka organizations have chipped in to offer a 500,000 credit bounty to anyone bringing information of their weakness- and proof that it works, of course. The bounty has been untouched for the last 10 years.

The best guess so far has been that perhaps Chi powers could hurt them.
But that's just a "perhaps."
Since there is nothing officially listed as being able to hurt them, there is nothing official that can hurt them; any claim that anything CAN hurt them is a house rule.

Giant2005 · Unread post by **Giant2005** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:08 am

Vallax weaponry might be able to hurt a Mulka.

Killer Cyborg · Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:12 am

Giant2005 wrote:Vallax weaponry might be able to hurt a Mulka.

I'm guessing that's a non-physical, non-magical, non-psychic kind of weaponry?

Giant2005 · Unread post by **Giant2005** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:14 am

Killer Cyborg wrote:
Giant2005 wrote:Vallax weaponry might be able to hurt a Mulka.

I'm guessing that's a non-physical, non-magical, non-psychic kind of weaponry?

No it is an energy weapon that has a property that allows it to ignore damage immunities.

Killer Cyborg · Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:15 am

Giant2005 wrote:
Killer Cyborg wrote:
Giant2005 wrote:Vallax weaponry might be able to hurt a Mulka.

I'm guessing that's a non-physical, non-magical, non-psychic kind of weaponry?

No it is an energy weapon that has a property that allows it to ignore damage immunities.

So it'd be a kind of "immovable object, unstoppable force thing."

Giant2005 · Unread post by **Giant2005** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:23 am

Killer Cyborg wrote:
Giant2005 wrote:
Killer Cyborg wrote:
Giant2005 wrote:Vallax weaponry might be able to hurt a Mulka.

I'm guessing that's a non-physical, non-magical, non-psychic kind of weaponry?

No it is an energy weapon that has a property that allows it to ignore damage immunities.

So it'd be a kind of "immovable object, unstoppable force thing."

Not really - it is an immovable object and an object that is specifically designed to move immovable objects. That object has to win out, otherwise its sole purpose of moving immovable objects is non-existent.

Killer Cyborg · Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:30 am

Giant2005 wrote:
Killer Cyborg wrote:
Giant2005 wrote:
Killer Cyborg wrote:
Giant2005 wrote:Vallax weaponry might be able to hurt a Mulka.

I'm guessing that's a non-physical, non-magical, non-psychic kind of weaponry?

No it is an energy weapon that has a property that allows it to ignore damage immunities.

So it'd be a kind of "immovable object, unstoppable force thing."

Not really - it is an immovable object and an object that is specifically designed to move immovable objects. That object has to win out, otherwise its sole purpose of moving immovable objects is non-existent.

Too bad for it.
Sometimes, things fail.

say652 · Unread post by **say652** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:46 pm

Mulka the reason manhunter as a line vanished. Lol.

Crucible · Unread post by **Crucible** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:05 pm

say652 wrote:Mulka the reason manhunter as a line vanished. Lol.

Mulka is plain insanity at its finest.

Thinyser · Unread post by **Thinyser** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:48 pm

say652 wrote:Deathwasp.
Disruptive touch.
Shrinking.
Flight: insect wings.
Superhuman Strength.
Energy resistance.

Its a Dim Mak Faerie
I freaking love it! :twisted:

say652 · Unread post by **say652** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:01 pm

I used this npc in a heroes unlimited game.
The secret operative set radioactive isotopes where his next target was supposed to be. Took like four sessions to capture the lil bugger.

Lukterran · Unread post by **Lukterran** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:50 pm

say652 wrote:Mulka the reason manhunter as a line vanished. Lol.

I think Mulka was created to be a GM device. It was obviously inspired by "Q" from Star Trek the Next Gen. Basically a all powerful trouble maker that could create all sorts of scenarios and trouble for the player characters.

wyrmraker · Unread post by **wyrmraker** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:19 pm

I always thought that the Mulka were pointlessly ridiculous. All spells, all psionics, unlimited PPE/ISP. Immune to all physical force, magic, and psionics.

I can see an extremely difficult NPC as a party's opponent. But this? I truly see no point in it whatsoever. At the same time, I can't get away from idiots who think I don't know any better when they try to get one over on me by trying to get me to let them play one.

say652 · Unread post by **say652** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:35 pm

The vault has a similiar power in it.

Godmode. All people including the guys party lose all experience points for the adventure when its used.

Killer Cyborg · Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:48 pm

wyrmraker wrote:I always thought that the Mulka were pointlessly ridiculous. All spells, all psionics, unlimited PPE/ISP. Immune to all physical force, magic, and psionics.

I can see an extremely difficult NPC as a party's opponent. But this? I truly see no point in it whatsoever. At the same time, I can't get away from idiots who think I don't know any better when they try to get one over on me by trying to get me to let them play one.

Mulka aren't intended to be a party's opponent.
That would be missing the point.

Crucible · Unread post by **Crucible** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:15 pm

Here is a character I once allowed. Talus Physical Training turned Dragon Juicer...

say652 · Unread post by **say652** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:00 pm

Ancient Master+ Mystically Bestowed Abilities.

Kung fu cheese dip.

Aku-Arkaine · Unread post by **Aku-Arkaine** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:04 pm

Part Amazon, part Sea Titan, part Atlantean = All Human munchkin :mrgreen:

say652 · Unread post by **say652** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:14 pm

You forgot the magic tattoos and since your all human the super powers. Lol