Godlings and Powers 9 and 10

[Anthar]

Answered here.
http://forums.palladium-megaverse.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=111618&hilit=godling
I got my answer a while back concerning the choice of the magic selection from the writer himself, but the post was deleted by one of our famous "board maintenance" sessions.

[Nekira Sudacne]

Thanks, but your answer conflicts with some data I've found and doesn't completely answer my questions.

88. I have a couple questions as to the Demigod. Elsewhere, on this FAQ, it says that when Power #10 is taken, a Demigod or Godling gets the O.C.C. skills of which ever magic category is taken. Do they get the related skills as well? Also, with Power #10, are Demigods limited to just Line Walker, Shifter, Warlock, Mystic and Necromancer, or are all viable Magic classes available?
Answer: They do not get the related skills. All viable classes can be selected.

Your answer in the thread you provide states that powers 9 and 10 don't grant O.C.C. skills. The questioner is acting as though they do, and has been assured of this. Of course, the validity of what I just quoted is thrown into question because it references this:

24. When a demi-god or a godling have power #10 (powers of a practitioner of magic) do the special abilities of the practitioner become natural abilities that do not use PPE? Do the demi-god or a godling get the OCC skills as well?
Answer: The Special abilities of that particular O.C.C. will be given, and if they have a PPE Cost, then it will have a PPE Cost for the Godling. Powers that do not have a PPE cost will not have a PPE Cost for the character.

There is no answer to question 24 in regards to whether the O.C.C. grants the O.C.C. skills, and yet question 88 acts as though the question had been answered in the affirmative.

Furthermore, I still don't know what the limitations on P.C.C.s are. Could I pick a P.C.C. other than Burster as long as it's elementally/primevally themed? The fact that Mind Melter isn't listed as an option suggests that I couldn't pick any P.C.C. Also, various question-answer pairs elsewhere in the FaQ section indicate that it's not legal to choose Techno-Wizard as part of power 10. Why?

Short answer: the FAQ is not an offical source of answers, it's based solely on the general consues on the thread it was asked on at the time it was asked. Over time, differnt people weigh in and different answers are gotten as a result.

There IS no offical answer.

[Anthar]

Plus the FAQ has been hacked and slashed over the years. There used to be answers by a few of the writers in it, but all of those reponses are gone now. I don't know who posts the answers now but some of them are really contradictory and sometimes even contradict rules written in the books themselves.

I wish I could get access to the post where I got my answer so at least you could see the writter's say on how it worked.

[Anthar]

So, is there a chance at all of getting an official ruling by an author (C.J. Carella or Kevin Siembieda) or a moderator?

Very rarely does Kevin descend from on high to answer these types of questions and C.J. Carella has moved on to bigger and better things though he answered my question on this in a post that was lost to the void.

[drewkitty ~..~]

Magic choice: any mage type (witches are not mages, even if they use magic)

Psi choice: there are many "master psi" choices that can be taken other then the power standard or burster. It was just that when the book was written that the Mind Melter and the Burster were the only two published in the rifts books.
So, I would let them pick any of the master Psi class powers. However, like with the magic powers, the ISP would be the highest rolled of the ones chosen.

[Nekira Sudacne]

So, is there a chance at all of getting an official ruling by an author (C.J. Carella or Kevin Siembieda) or a moderator?

Moderators answer questions, but their answers are no more offical than you or I. Moderators don't actually work for/represent palladium on these forums. They're just IT and troll police.

some of the newer authors will answer questions about their specific book(s), like Cambell and Carl Gebla, however they can't speak for any other books because, well...they didn't write them.

In short, the odds of getting an offical answer from anyone on the forums is slim and none. Palladium maintains no presence on their forums, it's just a place they set up for fans to chat.

[Nekira Sudacne]

I have a Demi-god character that I treated demi-god aas his race and he has the O.C.C of tundra ranger scout, recieving his skills from the O.C.C.

that's actually a pretty cool combo

[drewkitty ~..~]

I have a Demigod character that I treated demigod as his race and he has the O.C.C of tundra ranger scout, receiving his skills from the O.C.C.

that's actually a pretty cool combo

The DemiGod is written as a race, needing for the player to pick a class to be.

If the DG lived with their deity parent, then with a GM to allow it they could take the Godling's skill set.

Skills Set: the skills a class get. (not the powers)

But I agree with NS, the OCC you picked makes a good combination with a Demigod that grew up in the bush or while in hiding.

[Anthar]

The coolness of the possible combinations that can be used with the Demigod RCC is amazing. I mean you get one power from the godling list, one power that represents the Deific parent and you get to choose just about any class.
Imagine this if you will a Demigod that had been born of a union with Cronos, Chief of the Titans and say the inherit his ability to Absorb Life Energy, then as the godling power magic is taken as the Harvester OCC which allows for more absorbtion of souls and finally, the Shifter OCC is taken. You get a NPC villian that can become powerful enough to challenge anyone to a head to head battle, anywhere in the megaverse and that's just the beginning.

[Thinyser]

I'll take the standard Godling "double double" warlock + super psionics setup.

They can take the magic power twice and since warlocks can have two element spell lines (usually at the cost of over all spell knowledge but this is offset by the partial devine nature that specifically grants all spell knowledge up to their level) then you can have Earth Air Fire & Water with two magic selections and at 8th level you know ALL ELEMENTAL MAGIC.

With the above and the 5 super psi powers of Psi body field, TKFF and psi-sword, super TK and telemechanics + the whole Sensitive catagory!

Make them a godling with the silhouette as the mother's race (I'm of the opinion that godlings arise from the union of one god parent and one "more than mortal" parent, a demigod is the union of one god and one normal mortal) and it would be possible to have some limited shadow abilities too.

[TechnicDragon]

I have yet to find a solid answer for this anywhere and while this thread has answered most of my questions, one remains.

When selecting power #9 for a Demigod or Godling and the player chooses to take all powers from two lesser categories or all powers from one lesser category and five super psionics --- what is their base ISP? A demigod doesn't list anything at all! A Godling lists ISP for Major and Minor psionics (and I don't see any character with those numbers of powers being a minor psionic). Any suggestions?

[Zamion138]

For godling taking magic twice, Id say 1 occ skill set both powers list is beyond generous.
Id take occ temporal wizard and powers only from mystic knight.
Get access to high level spells, lots of powers and lots of ppe as well as some combat benifits, also temporal mages have a good skill set.

[Shark_Force]

I have yet to find a solid answer for this anywhere and while this thread has answered most of my questions, one remains.

When selecting power #9 for a Demigod or Godling and the player chooses to take all powers from two lesser categories or all powers from one lesser category and five super psionics --- what is their base ISP? A demigod doesn't list anything at all! A Godling lists ISP for Major and Minor psionics (and I don't see any character with those numbers of powers being a minor psionic). Any suggestions?

i'd go with as much as a burster. that being the third option in the category, apparently.

[Colonel_Tetsuya]

Either that or default to "generic Super Psi" = "Mind Melter". Both would work fine, IMO.

[eliakon]

For godling taking magic twice, Id say 1 occ skill set both powers list is beyond generous.
Id take occ temporal wizard and powers only from mystic knight.
Get access to high level spells, lots of powers and lots of ppe as well as some combat benifits, also temporal mages have a good skill set.

You don't get any skills.
The power specifically states that you get the abilities.
Skills are not an ability.
This is further reinforced by the fact that while magic clearly references power #9 skills do not.

[eliakon]

I have yet to find a solid answer for this anywhere and while this thread has answered most of my questions, one remains.

When selecting power #9 for a Demigod or Godling and the player chooses to take all powers from two lesser categories or all powers from one lesser category and five super psionics --- what is their base ISP? A demigod doesn't list anything at all! A Godling lists ISP for Major and Minor psionics (and I don't see any character with those numbers of powers being a minor psionic). Any suggestions?

Go with the godling numbers.
Specifically as I see it:
If you pick the abilities of a Burster (or other class if the GM so allows) you are a Master and get ISP=(4d6x10)+ME+(10 per level)
If you pick either of the other 2 options that is a Major Psychic and you get ISP=(1d6x10)+ME+(1d6 per level)
The Minor Psychic issue would come up if you picked something like Techno-Wizard that makes you a minor psychic as part of the magic process.

This is, of course, as I see the rules being written.
Others may interpret them in other ways.