toys?

abe · Unread post by **abe** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 3:46 pm

What sort of toys would they have in rifts?

Misfit KotLD · Unread post by **Misfit KotLD** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:38 pm

The same kinds as have been popular throughout history, dolls, soldiers, wagons...

The CS probably makes its own Dead Boy line.

abe · Unread post by **abe** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:52 pm

What about tecno-wizard toys?

rat_bastard · Unread post by **rat_bastard** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:52 pm

Misfit KotLD wrote:The same kinds as have been popular throughout history, dolls, soldiers, wagons...

The CS probably makes its own Dead Boy line.

the CS version of GI-Joe would awesome for its camp propaganda vaue, kinda like the real GI-Joe...

rat_bastard · Unread post by **rat_bastard** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:53 pm

abe wrote:What about tecno-wizard toys?

Skim the Black Vault adventure source book, lotsa TW tows.

Misfit KotLD · Unread post by **Misfit KotLD** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:54 pm

For those who could afford them, immensely popular.

abe · Unread post by **abe** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:57 pm

tows.

tows?

Misfit KotLD · Unread post by **Misfit KotLD** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:58 pm

abe wrote:
tows.

tows?

Toys. Bastard's probably drunk posting again.

abe · Unread post by **abe** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:23 pm

thanks!
Just had idea for a tw toy-the super jumper 20000
Basically a hyper-powerful pogo stick on steroids!
effect-You can jump over 50 miles on a bounce!
Physical requirements-1 pogo stick & a 150,000 credit diamond
spells required-globe of daylight & any jumping spell
p.p.e. cost-125 for every 5 jumps
Tell me what you think of it please.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:56 pm

abe wrote:What about tecno-wizard toys?

Check MercTown for ideas...there's a TW shop that specializes in nicknacks for kids....

sHaka · Unread post by **sHaka** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 7:00 pm

abe wrote:thanks!
Just had idea for a tw toy-the super jumper 20000
Basically a hyper-powerful pogo stick on steroids!
effect-You can jump over 50 miles on a bounce!
Physical requirements-1 pogo stick & a 150,000 credit diamond
spells required-globe of daylight & any jumping spell
p.p.e. cost-125 for every 5 jumps
Tell me what you think of it please.

Would you let your kid on it? :eek:

abe · Unread post by **abe** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 7:02 pm

Would you let you kid on it?

No,but I probably would let a fellow techno wizard on it instead.

drewkitty ~..~ · Sun Apr 05, 2009 9:23 pm

from "Sticks and rocks" to "modern equivalents"

Captain Shiva · Sun Apr 05, 2009 10:48 pm

And CS children play Dead Boys and D-bees, instead of Cowboys and indians.

Pepsi Jedi · Unread post by **Pepsi Jedi** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 11:31 pm

Exactly. They'd have Dead Boys Vs DeeBees or Dead Boys Vs Mages.

The action figure lines would be awesome. Figures that look like your average grunt. Special forces. Vehicles like the robots or the sky cycles, Bases.

The "bad guys" could be DeeBees with "Know Your Foe" Write ups with 'powers of the DeeBees" on the back so kids can get indoctrinated from a young age. Same with Mages when the war on tolkeen came out. Different demons and magical critters action figures. Maybe a Xitichix line. Maybe an Atlantian line. Some "NGR" back up troops. ect.

I could go on and on and on.

I know if Palladium put out an action figure line. 3.75 or 8 inch, I'd totally buy it. I'd buy bunches of CS troops, special forces, Juicers, dog boys. the generals. The vehicles. I'd also buy alot of the DBee figures too. I mean the Quick flex alien and Grackletooth are BEGGING to be made into figures. It'd be awesome.

Captain Shiva · Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:25 am

Pepsi Jedi wrote:Exactly. They'd have Dead Boys Vs DeeBees or Dead Boys Vs Mages.

The action figure lines would be awesome. Figures that look like your average grunt. Special forces. Vehicles like the robots or the sky cycles, Bases.

The "bad guys" could be DeeBees with "Know Your Foe" Write ups with 'powers of the DeeBees" on the back so kids can get indoctrinated from a young age. Same with Mages when the war on tolkeen came out. Different demons and magical critters action figures. Maybe a Xitichix line. Maybe an Atlantian line. Some "NGR" back up troops. ect.

I could go on and on and on.

I know if Palladium put out an action figure line. 3.75 or 8 inch, I'd totally buy it. I'd buy bunches of CS troops, special forces, Juicers, dog boys. the generals. The vehicles. I'd also buy alot of the DBee figures too. I mean the Quick flex alien and Grackletooth are BEGGING to be made into figures. It'd be awesome.

Actually, the idea is not all that farfetched. Popular entertainment was used in almost all its forms in WW2 to demonize the enemy, including somics, which were still largely regarded as being for children at the time.The famous cartoonist did a short comic for the miltary," How to Spot A Jap." And more recently, I believe there were GI Joes modeled after various historical military figures. So, you have a real world basis for youthful indoctrination via the propaganda of entertainment. I may use this idea in a game, if you have no objections.

Pepsi Jedi · Unread post by **Pepsi Jedi** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:59 am

Oh it's not my idea... it's been around since the first caveman carved a stick that looked roughly like a cave man and a lump of clay that looked roughly like a mammoth.

What really gets ya thinking, is since the average CS kid can't read. Alot of the toys will probably have talking chips with the CS Propaganda slogans.

"The only good Mage is a DEAD MAGE!"
"Never Trust a DBEE"
"Human Rule! DBee Drool!"
"Trust in Humanity"
"Humans First"

Ect ect ect. Think about the Cartoon tie ins for the figures (( GI Joe, Thundercats, ect ect were all made purposefully to be half hour commercials for the toys. Not for 'entertainment'))

Captain Colt and his Howling CS Commandos! Collect them all. Get Captain Colt, His Psistalker RAGE... the Dog pack, Fido, Sparky and Woolf! And don't forget the high flying Sky Cycle squad!

And as the kids age.... the figures of course give way to video games. The Xbox v 45.3. The CS version of Laser tag (( We know they have it. It's how the training in the Merc book is done)), which rolls you right into "Sign up to be a CS trooper at 16, be a full citizen by the time you're 26!" sort of things. (( We'd aim higher but not much. The US army is using video arcades to recruit now. ))

Library Ogre · Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:30 am

Misfit KotLD wrote:The same kinds as have been popular throughout history, dolls, soldiers, wagons...

The CS probably makes its own Dead Boy line.

I think that the CS loves the original GI Joe movie. Human soldiers against monsters and their human dupes? Classic.

Prince Artemis · Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:37 am

abe wrote:What about tecno-wizard toys?

The BFG was my technowizards favorite toy. It doesn't mean what you think it does, though it was made using an old crank style gattling gun. It was enchanted with a rather heavy PPE suppy (It could store 200 ppe) and it was enchanted with energybolt, blinding flash and neon(A level 1, 1 ppe add on spell that lets you change the color of a spell.)

So, you store up the 200 ppe and then turn the crank. You're rewarded with the gentle wrrr for a few seconds before it starts shooting a barrage of multi-colored blinding flashes. It does no damage, but is generally best to fire into the air to create a fire-works like display, though he had used it as a chaos weapon on occaision (Seriously, it's great for making a small army freak out even if the worst it can do is blind you if your eyes are unprotected).

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:56 pm

Well, I'd replace the 'power write-up' with a sound chip incorporated into the toys and picture story book(illustrated with glamorous bold propaganda for the CS forces and lurid, gruesome, violent, ech! for the D-bees) for the CS toy lines, considering the high rate of illiteracy....

Pepsi Jedi · Unread post by **Pepsi Jedi** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:02 pm

Yeah if you notice my second post I said that exact thing. *G* Great minds and all.

Nxla666 · Unread post by **Nxla666** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:01 pm

In my Rifts games the most popular game in the Americas is "Deadboys and Dbees", and it ranges from the backyard game of "I shot you your dead""No you missed" to the videogame genre to even in Lazlo an MMO type game.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:15 pm

...and young Summoners Summon their playmates... :twisted:

"It's not the invisible friend that bothers me, Margaret, it's the eighteen-foot tall, scaly, amorpheous, fire-breathing, winged blob...."

Vrykolas2k · Unread post by **Vrykolas2k** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:51 am

I can see the other NA kingdoms putting out a line of heroic action figures of cyber-knights, magi, and others, fighting for life and freedom against the evil legions of Coalition Commander and his black-armour wearing terrorist dead boyz (who are actually pawns of Splugorth the Terrible, who uses Coalition Commander to weaken other nations so his slavers can find easy prey).

Greyaxe · Unread post by **Greyaxe** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:26 am

Pepsi Jedi wrote:Oh it's not my idea... it's been around since the first caveman carved a stick that looked roughly like a cave man and a lump of clay that looked roughly like a mammoth.

What really gets ya thinking, is since the average CS kid can't read. Alot of the toys will probably have talking chips with the CS Propaganda slogans.

"The only good Mage is a DEAD MAGE!"
"Never Trust a DBEE"
"Human Rule! DBee Drool!"
"Trust in Humanity"
"Humans First"

Ect ect ect. Think about the Cartoon tie ins for the figures (( GI Joe, Thundercats, ect ect were all made purposefully to be half hour commercials for the toys. Not for 'entertainment'))

Captain Colt and his Howling CS Commandos! Collect them all. Get Captain Colt, His Psistalker RAGE... the Dog pack, Fido, Sparky and Woolf! And don't forget the high flying Sky Cycle squad!

And as the kids age.... the figures of course give way to video games. The Xbox v 45.3. The CS version of Laser tag (( We know they have it. It's how the training in the Merc book is done)), which rolls you right into "Sign up to be a CS trooper at 16, be a full citizen by the time you're 26!" sort of things. (( We'd aim higher but not much. The US army is using video arcades to recruit now. ))

Now here is a man who understands the value and purpose of the propaganda engine. Imaging growing up your whole life listending to this, living it. And people on this forum doubt the "voracity" with which Coalition citizens buy into the propaganda.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:51 pm

...with game consoles that look suspiciously like those of the weapons and control stations of the primary CS vehicles and robots...

abe · Unread post by **abe** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:41 pm

And don't forget the classics (for example)the TRULLY MAGIC 8-BALL!

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:02 pm

abe wrote:And don't forget the classics (for example)the TRULLY MAGIC 8-BALL!

Possession of which in the CS gets you automatically shot...
"Your Bad Day Just Got Worse."
"You're Screwed."
"Before You Die, Toss Me Aside"
"All THings Come to an End"
"Better Luck Next Life, Buddy"

BookWyrm · Unread post by **BookWyrm** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:57 pm

CS 'toys' would be plastic miniature copies of all their military gear; if the real-live versions can walk, the toy-versions walk using a battery, like the toy/robot 'Robosapien'. Most versions of Power Armor would have 3-6 pre-recorded sayings like "Alert! Illegal extra-dimensional life-form detected!", "Moving to assigned co-ordinates", or " Let's go, soldier!"

Sets would include the CS DogPack and a Psi-Handler, as seen on the Rifts Dog-Pack t-shirt.

Pepsi Jedi · Unread post by **Pepsi Jedi** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:21 am

*Reads some of the last few posts*

You know, sometimes you can REALLY tell when people read the first post in a thread. Maybe the first two or three and then skip to the end and reply.

*grins* You guys should READ the thread. The stuff from the lasts few posts were brought up many posts prior and in more detail. *grins*

Great minds though.

Balabanto · Unread post by **Balabanto** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:30 am

Here's a plot for you. Elite Coalition Samas Pilot, complete with Super-Samas. Jack Colton, All-Coalition Boy! He's the guy on the posters! He's the source of their action figures. He's a hero to the coalition.

And now...he has deserted...

What a PC that would be. What a plot if not...

vsper · Unread post by **vsper** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:43 am

I was thinking imagine the CS styled RC vehicle.

I can see a laser tag coming back. CS would promote it and probably help with youth leagues to play. It would make great training to get people use to shooting at others.

Board games would be out ...no one can read the rules

vsper

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:52 pm

Balabanto wrote:Here's a plot for you. Elite Coalition Samas Pilot, complete with Super-Samas. Jack Colton, All-Coalition Boy! He's the guy on the posters! He's the source of their action figures. He's a hero to the coalition.

And now...he has deserted...

What a PC that would be. What a plot if not...

Plus your new job is to smuggle him to safety...when every kid on every street(and a lot of young women) have his molded plastic likeness in hand...

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:54 pm

vsper wrote:I was thinking imagine the CS styled RC vehicle.

I can see a laser tag coming back. CS would promote it and probably help with youth leagues to play. It would make great training to get people use to shooting at others.

Board games would be out ...no one can read the rules

vsper

Pictograms...IT's how I learned checkers...
Maybe something akin to the Robocop game 'Total Nuclear Annihilation' or whatever that game was where the objective was to go nuclear on the entire board...

Natasha · Unread post by **Natasha** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:55 pm

rat_bastard wrote:
Misfit KotLD wrote:The same kinds as have been popular throughout history, dolls, soldiers, wagons...

The CS probably makes its own Dead Boy line.

the CS version of GI-Joe would awesome for its camp propaganda vaue, kinda like the real GI-Joe...

but only if it had a kung fu grip.

I only know this from reading Dr. Dennis Leary.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:03 pm

Gypsy-Dancer wrote:Maybe a TW Teddy Bear that protects the child that plays with it?

I remember encountering several fan designs many years ago...basically a TW Peekachu with real Lightning Bolt action(and flashing hypnotic eyes...though I think that owed more to Futurama's HypnoToad...)

Library Ogre · Unread post by **Library Ogre** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:02 pm

Gypsy-Dancer wrote:Maybe a TW Teddy Bear that protects the child that plays with it?

And told them stories?

Sort like a Teddy Ruxpin that shot lasers from its eyes?

Vrykolas2k · Unread post by **Vrykolas2k** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:13 pm

Mark Hall wrote:
Gypsy-Dancer wrote:Maybe a TW Teddy Bear that protects the child that plays with it?

And told them stories?

Sort like a Teddy Ruxpin that shot lasers from its eyes?

That would be so fricking awesome...
Then we could just walk into Mortor.

Library Ogre · Unread post by **Library Ogre** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:49 pm

Vrykolas2k wrote:
Mark Hall wrote:
Gypsy-Dancer wrote:Maybe a TW Teddy Bear that protects the child that plays with it?

And told them stories?

Sort like a Teddy Ruxpin that shot lasers from its eyes?

That would be so fricking awesome...
Then we could just walk into Mortor.

Mordor. With a D. ;-)

abe · Unread post by **abe** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:07 pm

Futurama's HypnoToad

You mean mindslug right?
and don't forget that the slingshot can also be used as a toy to fire water balloons(maybe 2d8 damage to vampires?)

Nxla666 · Unread post by **Nxla666** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:29 am

vsper wrote:
Board games would be out ...no one can read the rules

vsper

Untrue, I work in a toy store and a lot of the games for young children being made today are being hyped with the line "No reading needed to play".

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:08 am

And new, from Federation of Magic Toys...

Junior Necromancer Kit!

"Children SHOULD play with dead thinnnggggggsssss......"

Tricky · Unread post by **Tricky** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:24 pm

Ok, I did read (or at least skim) the thread, so I shouldn't repost any ideas.
But the CS "Trooper Tom" cartoon in my head is soo cool. Just think old school GI JOE, or the new Clone Wars cartoon.

But, I think toys would match up with the tech levels, with magic being a sorta deal breaker. I could see a toy store in Lazlo selling everything from hand made dolls to cool action figures to enchanted board games.

Anyone remember the Rifter that had Familars for Rifts in it: one of them was an enchanted toy/action figure.

abe · Unread post by **abe** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 2:09 pm

They probably have at least some kind of doll for some of the kids.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:18 pm

...and, of course, you have the rural, handcrafts...rag dolls, wooden toys, harkening back to the wild old days of American frontier development..though occasionally incorporating some piece of pre-rifts salvage in it, like plastic bits, or car decals/ornaments...

abe · Unread post by **abe** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:26 pm

bump!

abe · Unread post by **abe** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:07 pm

What about a mdc yo-yo?

Ale Golem · Unread post by **Ale Golem** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:53 pm

TW Thunderpuff Guns. FOR KIDS! My personal favorite TW item ever.

abe · Unread post by **abe** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:48 pm

They probably have the equivalent of the beer hat. :eek:

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:42 pm

Frankentoys---Toys made of cast off and surviving bits of toys found in the ruins of pre-Rifts civilization...often mismatched and ugly as hell, but it gives the kids something to play with....

And, of course, there is....

THE STICK