Heroic Hellion's Budget is HUGE

[Stone Gargoyle]

I just bought Armageddon Unlimited and was going over the new power categories they have in there. Basically Heroic Hellion allows you to build a demon from scratch. Which is all well and good, but how do they justify giving the thing such a huge amount of starting cash? As a GM, I would drop the amounts to more reasonable levels. The character is already badass, it's not like they have to buy a bunch of stuff to be even more so.

[drewkitty ~..~]

1) yes
2) no
3) maybe
4) all of the above
5) Don't know/care

#4

since the char is a Immortal the top amounts are not out of range of those that have been around for a while. However, the top of the range does not match the top of the range savings from the table in the Immortals Power cat.

[Stone Gargoyle]

since the char is a Immortal the top amounts are not out of range of those that have been around for a while. However, the top of the range does not match the top of the range savings from the table in the Immortals Power cat.

I suppose it is in line with the Immortal category, but I guess I just don't think a character with all that the Heroic Hellion has going for it really needs a lot of money.

[SittingBull]

I figure that is one book I will have to break down and buy as it has powers but no one will divulge what those powers are.

[eliakon]

I figure that is one book I will have to break down and buy as it has powers but no one will divulge what those powers are.

Minor Powers
Energy Expulsion:
-Explosive Fireballs
-Demonic Fury
-Divine Energy
Limb Possesion
Sense the Supernatural
Summon Lesser Demon/Devil
Summon and Command Small Animals

Major Powers
Alter Dimensional Fabric
Alter Physical Structure: Silver
Command the Lieutenants of Hell
Complete Possession
Demon Fists
Drought
Energy Drain & Expulsion: Life Source
Energy Expulsion:
-Dimensional Energy
-Petrification Blast
-Soul Blast
Mater Expulsion Silver
Portal
Possession: Super Abilities
Summon & Command:
-Large Animals
-Demonic Netherbeasts

[SittingBull]

I figure that is one book I will have to break down and buy as it has powers but no one will divulge what those powers are.

Minor Powers
Energy Expulsion:
-Explosive Fireballs
-Demonic Fury
-Divine Energy
Limb Possesion
Sense the Supernatural
Summon Lesser Demon/Devil
Summon and Command Small Animals

Major Powers
Alter Dimensional Fabric
Alter Physical Structure: Silver
Command the Lieutenants of Hell
Complete Possession
Demon Fists
Drought
Energy Drain & Expulsion: Life Source
Energy Expulsion:
-Dimensional Energy
-Petrification Blast
-Soul Blast
Mater Expulsion Silver
Portal
Possession: Super Abilities
Summon & Command:
-Large Animals
-Demonic Netherbeasts

Wonder if APS silver is a solid form, I figure it is.

Possession: super abilities?

[Razorwing]

APS Silver is functionally the same as APS Metal... with the advantage that you can serious harm most supernatural beings (and extra damage to those who have a vulnerability to Silver).

As for their starting funds... remember that Heroic Hellions may have been around for a long time before becoming enlightened... long enough to potentially have a substantial fortune... provided they were interested in such things. The amount they start with is likely a fraction of what they had... and is likely all they were able to take with them before escaping whatever hell dimension they originated from... likely in the form or precious metals and gemstones (easily carried and liquidated into local currency in most places).

[Stone Gargoyle]

Possession: super abilities?

It basically allows the character to activate a target's powers. There is no aiming of said powers unless Limb Possession is also taken.

[SittingBull]

Possession: super abilities?

It basically allows the character to activate a target's powers. There is no aiming of said powers unless Limb Possession is also taken.

Neat.

[Sir_Spirit]

Not sure what the difference between complete possession and Transferal/possession from the main book are?

But to answer the OP, of course he's go money. Money's the root of all Evil, remember? So of course big E Evil has loads of money. It won't save your soul, but you can be rich all you want in life....

...and, of course, trying to use the money to directly do good will misfire at best(if used carefully), or backfire entirely(if not). And while you can use it selfishly reliably, trying to use it to actually make yourself happy never works....

[13eowulf]

I would say that given the Heroic Hellion is functionally a Mega-Hero (it uses the Mega-Hero experience chart, and has to choose an Achilles heel from the Mega-Hero list) that the budget is within reason.

[Axelmania]

If I was an immortal demon I'd be amassing wealth.

[Niji]

Immortal Demons collect VAST amounts of money (unless they use another currency, like say souls, but they'd probably still have a lot of wealth to buy them off people, etc), because money = power, even if you were only in a dimension that was moniless you'd have access to a lot of jewels or trinkets to sell for quite a bit upon changing your ways (and again can't change the world without money it seems to most practical people).

Heck you can make $1000 a day panhandling in a major city, just think about if you were immortal and changing your ways even begging you'd accrue a lot of money over time. Seems both easily justified and reasonable. Depending on your campaign though it could most be in an unexchangable currency or goods or one that is very valuable to some but difficult to trade for (say the game takes place in a country/zone with brand new currency that isn't exchanging non-precious metals or goods, etc). But just as is presented in rules and most of the basic settings having as much money as they have would be appropriate. What the heck would they spend it on though, probably helping ohers or building a corporation to change the world though? They don't have much use for it themselves so it would just accrue wildly methinks.

Really depends on backstory here. So a GREAT place to flesh out a character with nitty gritty details and history for the player!