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Gestalt heroes.

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Is it possible to have five heroes with their own powers to form a Gestalt? A physical one that increases power damage as well?
I understand the five person limit but, a clone soldier with said ability could be part of a clone army with said abilities.

Eugenic clones that form a Five person Gestalt to get even stronger?
So divide the number of soldiers by Five to produce 1 Five times stronger.
Now we go to Stage two.
Can the Gestalt supers form up to another Five person Gestalt? Etc, etc,etc,
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By the rules? No you can not combine power categories like that. As a GM if you want to bend the rules to allow something then by all means go ahead.
But canonically no its a stand alone power category
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I think I will see what I can up with.

The Eugenic power category is soft in flight powers, I may have the Five Eugenic clones form into different abilities instead, while offering great damage the limited flight is kind of a weakness.
Rule break time.
Using Warmonger 652, 8.3 million Eugenics budget. Sonic power, Radar, Extraordinary Physical Prowess, Energy Expulsion Light, Engaged Intelligence are among the features purchased.
I think I will have the Gestalt keep the basic abilities and Gain additional abilities as well.

Right now I'll work on One Gestalt composed of Five Eugenics Clones.
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Mega Hero:
Eugenics Gestalt Level:1.
Max budget 17 million divided up amongst the five that form the Gestalt. 3.4 million each.
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Ok, built five separate Eugenic heroes all with the 3.4 million dollar budget.



The five combine forming the Gestalt, a max budget Eugenics character.
With a collective mind so no super sick iniative bonus.
Also holy wow max budget in Eugenics! Power House.

Supernatural Ps5D6+25+30+2D6.
Pp3D6+10+2D4.
Pe3D6+10.
Pb3D6+10.
Spd4D6+20+3D4/ 220mph+20mph per level.
Iq+2+2.
Me+2+1.
Ma+3.
Includes power bonuses.

Hp total times four.
Sdc total times ten.
Plus augmented sdc times two:12D6+48, Gestalt only.($120,000 was unspent so I gave it to Gestalt)

1: Individual choice.
2: Infinite Range.
3: Collective Mind, lost like +16 iniative :(

Powers gained from Gestalt, access to all Eugenic powers, skills, enhanced hp, sdc, Attributes, psionics, and the two Augmented sdc bonus.
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Character 1.
3.4 Million.
Brain Enhancement.
Psionics: Super Combat.
Ambidextrous.
Enhanced IQ.
Enhanced Me.
PhD/ Doctorate Education.

Character 2.
3.38 Million.
Bio Regeneration(Chimera).
Reinforced Skeleton.
Sdc Augmentation(times 4).
Military Education.

Character 3.
3.35 Million.
Supernatural Strength.
Enhanced Agility& Dexterity.
Radar.
Heightened sense of Hearing.
Extraordinary Speed.
Psi Booster.
Trade School Education.

Character 4.
3.4 Million.
Psionics Healing.
Psionics Third Eye.
Psionic Sensitive.
Military Specialist Education.

Character 5.
3.35 Million.
Enhanced Heart.
Sonic Power.
Energy Expulsion Light.
Energy Expulsion Electricity.
Masters Degree Education.

Base sdc&ppe for each member.
Sdc:1D6x10+10+20+1D6+25.
Ppe:6D6+10.
2:Attacks to start.


More editing etc.
Just jotted down exactly what 16.88 million purchases in Eugenics. Evidently enough to make five different characters. Lol.
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say652 wrote:Mega Hero:
Eugenics Gestalt Level:1.
Max budget 17 million divided up amongst the five that form the Gestalt. 3.4 million each.


I take it you have not been keeping up with the Errata for various HU books... or you would have known that the maximum budget for Eugenics Heroes has been lowered to 10 million. Apparently, having 17 million was allowing players to buy virtually anything and everything they could possibly want. Additionally, some of the prices of various enhancements have been altered too, to make it so that one has to decide if a given enhancement is really needed... at the cost of affording a different one that is also rather cool.
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Cool.
I seen that in the Eugenics Errata.
I went with the pu2 listing because I am making a Megahero.
Technically the characters Budget is 3.4 Million.
The MegaGestalt form has a 17 million dollar budget.

Things I cannot find.
Duration??
How many uses per day??

I was reading that a partial Gestalt can also be formed, minus the appropriate percentage of course. In this case missing members mean missing powers as well.
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say652 wrote:Cool.
I seen that in the Eugenics Errata.
I went with the pu2 listing because I am making a Megahero.
Technically the characters Budget is 3.4 Million.
The MegaGestalt form has a 17 million dollar budget.

Things I cannot find.
Duration??
How many uses per day??

I was reading that a partial Gestalt can also be formed, minus the appropriate percentage of course. In this case missing members mean missing powers as well.


That would still be about 2 million above what other Mega-Eugenic characters would get... the Mega Hero option for budget based heroes increases the budget by 50%... so with a 10 million normal budget, you would be able to get a 15 million Mega-Hero budget.

To be honest... I can't see this as anything other than as a vanity exercise on your part to create the most powerful character you can imagine without working within any kind of official rules (even optional ones from the Rifter). While it may be interesting to see the final result... I doubt you will get much support for "perfecting" such a character.
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I am rethinking this concept now.
1 Eugenic.
1 Super Soldier.
1 Master Psionic.
1 Mystic Study.
1 Ancient Weapons Master.

The Gestalt kinda needs to be on par with a Supernatural Intelligence. I am also thinking of giving several Achilles Heels so enough silver rounds our cold steel weapons can drive it off or possible kill it.

The ugh factor is, there is more than one.
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Razorwing wrote:To be honest... I can't see this as anything other than as a vanity exercise on your part to create the most powerful character you can imagine without working within any kind of official rules (even optional ones from the Rifter). While it may be interesting to see the final result... I doubt you will get much support for "perfecting" such a character.
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And this idea is put on the back burner.
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