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Limited Invulnerability

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Well, I already asked about the issues with kinetic force and this spell, but I thought of another question. This is regarding the glowing aura. The book states the spell creates "a form fitting energy field which appears as a dimly glowing aura around the body..." (Main Book p 202). How tight is this field? Is it skin tight, or does it cover clothing as well? Would it go over armor or thick, cold weather clothing? If you cast it and then put something on, like a cloak, would it expand to cover the cloak, or would the cloak cover it?

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Another question would be does it go over your sword/weapon as well and stop actual contact between enemy and your weapon.
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Personally I play it as it only goes over the person and doesn't protect your items from damage and it gives you temporary sdc (hp for first ed), so in second ed it makes you immune to deathblow and the like which normally go straight to hp, but now still have to take the magic sdc off first.
This also means any strike that doesn't penetrate your armour still does damage to your armour.
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Greetings and Salutations. Well, the spell starts off by saying "makes the individual" (does not say individual and what they're wearing, or anything like that). The part you quoted says "around the body." Clothing, armor, and other items are not part of your body. Some of that may sound like nitpicking, and I might see the possibility for it covering more if we didn't keep reading. However, when we go further we get lines like: "Once the magic S.D.C. is exhausted, the person will suffer normal damage to his own S.D.C. and hit points ..." This mentions the person, and the character's "own S.D.C. and hit points," which tells us this is what the magical S.D.C. was protecting (not the armor's S.D.C., or clothing's S.D.C., or any other S.D.C. between your "body" and the attack). This, to me, would rule out armor. You might be able to still try to argue for clothing, but this starts to become the point where you need to provide support for that claim instead of just wild speculation.

Yes, the magic appears as an aura. That line does NOT tell us how large the aura is, nor does it say that everything within the aura is protected. To state a different way, the field creates a visible aura, that does not mean the aura is the field. Farewell and safe journeys for now.
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My rule of thumb for such things is that they generally conform to the aura of what cast them... for most mortals, that's about a handsbreadth from their skin, enough to encompass armor.
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The way I treat the effects of this spell is that it gives a few immunities and a magic ff to absorb things that would of gotten through the immunities.
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Letting it protect clothes is munchy, just the skin makes mages more balanced. If you want to protect your armor you should uses Energy Field.
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This simplest solution is probably the correct one. It covers the person and their cloths and armor. No need to nitpick.
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My personal handling is that it protects clothing. This is just because I have a high portion of players playing minors and don't want to deal with the issues generated there.
However it protects clothing not armor, not battle-suits, just regular old, no SDC no AR clothing. If you want to protect anything other than basic light clothing... use a different spell.

Just my house thoughts on the issue.
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Maybe to deal with the nudity problem in PF there are undergarments which are magically considered part of the person?

Sometimes nudity just comes up. A werewolf in a fire for example.
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