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The Angel, Lo-kum

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Tell me all about him/her/it, Palladium lore-masters.

Provide book references too, please.
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He along with Kyn-Nark-Mar and Lictalon helped put the Old Ones to sleep. His name is a Power
Word (along with the arch angel Tao-bo). You say his name in the Place of Magic adventure in
Old Ones Book is releases a host of angels. And that's about it as far as I know. Of the three
great leaders, we know the Dragon God is still very much active, Lictalon is imprisoned in
Modeus' castle in Hades. So unless Kevin knows something, I'd say you free to do anything you
want with him.
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Greetings and Salutations.

Power Word: PF2 (main book); page 117 (as well as included in various Wards phrases in the pages that follow, but I'm not going to list each of them so you'll just have to look).

Land of the Damned: Book One (Chaos Lands); page 13-14 (the story from the Tristine Chronicles).

PF Book 2: Old Ones (second edition); briefly mentioned on page 7 and again on 8, pages 168 and 169, and a little more on pages 220 and 221. Note: These same references are probably in 1st Edition as well, but I'm too lazy to find the page numbers at this moment.

PF Book 3: Adventures on the High Seas (second edition); small reference as a power word on page 86 (Stone Ships, under the Building Techniques section). Note: Again, probably in 1st Edition as well, but you'll have to find the page on your own.

PF Book 6: Island at the Edge of the World; page 38 (listed as part of a pantheon, though it's not a real list of gods as it's ANY who took part in the war with the Old Ones ... including the Old Ones themselves).

All of that is pretty much what Reagren Wright already summed up, but providing the page numbers I could find (quickly). If I missed any, my apologies. I wouldn't have even included so many power words, but I figure maybe something within their applicaion may give you ideas or something. Anyways, that's all for now. Thank you for your time and patience, please have a nice day. Farewell and safe journeys for now.
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The hall of angels release a load of cherubs so lokum "May" be a cherub.

I would speak to Carmen about him.
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Braden Campbell wrote:Tell me all about him/her/it, Palladium lore-masters.

Provide book references too, please.


I got hungry. :fl: :twisted:
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The Dark Elf wrote:The hall of angels release a load of cherubs so lokum "May" be a cherub.

I would speak to Carmen about him.


I don't quite imagine Lokum as a cute little cherub flitting about (It brings elmer fudd flitting around with angel wings to mind)
I more imagined him to be an irritated Titan with wings that he ripped of a dragon because the dragon came too near.
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kiralon wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:The hall of angels release a load of cherubs so lokum "May" be a cherub.

I would speak to Carmen about him.


I don't quite imagine Lokum as a cute little cherub flitting about (It brings elmer fudd flitting around with angel wings to mind)
I more imagined him to be an irritated Titan with wings that he ripped of a dragon because the dragon came too near.

I have used the description of Ariel's in 1st edition for an adventure which features Tao Bo.
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I was wondering if perhaps Lo-Kum was some kind of amalgamated super-angel; that is, if he/she/it had features and powers from all four elemental divisions so that it could lead the collective Spirits of Light.
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Braden Campbell wrote:I was wondering if perhaps Lo-Kum was some kind of amalgamated super-angel; that is, if he/she/it had features and powers from all four elemental divisions so that it could lead to collective Spirits of Light.


Makes sense. The Dragon Kym-Nark-Mar (who is one of the other power words) turns out to be a dragon GOD. And since he is a dragon he gets to be awesomely powerful...I could easily see Lo-Kum being an Archangel type creature and thus be in essence what you get when you ramp a Spirit of Light up to deity levels of power. And just as the dragon gods are not exactly any one type of dragon.......
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Braden Campbell wrote:I was wondering if perhaps Lo-Kum was some kind of amalgamated super-angel; that is, if he/she/it had features and powers from all four elemental divisions so that it could lead to collective Spirits of Light.

Greetings and Salutations. I doubt Lo-kum (sometimes just spelled Lokum in a few of the books) was that type of being originally.

Kym-Nark-Mar wasn't a god until The Battle of the Gods (fairly sure about that, but didn't reread Yin-Sloth Jungles to be sure). Lictalon was an elf wizard, though he seems to have gained some type of pseudo-godhood since then as well (don't believe he's ever called a god, but I remember hearing he's mentioned in Dragons & Gods having some type of interactions there, and I believe strongly hinted he's currently imprisoned in Hades, which means he's still alive 100,000 year's later).

So by now it's not unreasonable to say Lo-kum has found similar power/elevation.

The real question for me is if Spirits of Light would have such leaders. I (sometimes) think of Spirits of Light as more Elementals than anything else. Elementals have such a foreign mind frame they may not need leaders, or even really understand the concept of a hierarchy. Not saying that's how they are, just food for thought.

Anyways, I think that's all for now. Thank you for your time and patience, please have a nice day. Farewell and safe journeys to all.
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In The Hall of Angles, when saying Lokum's name and summoning the cherub army, the players are told "I am the new gate keeper" by one of the cherubs. I have always taken it to mean that Lokum was the gatekeeper and is no longer able to do so because he is dead of disappeared.
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Yeah.

He/she/it relocated to Jeretlan to battle Agu and keep the Rebirthing Curse in check... ;)
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I always figured Lictalon to be an Elf-God and Lokum to be an Angel-God.
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Lokum is also the Turkish word for Turkish delight. Probably a coincidence but you might be able to do something with it.
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Cybermancer wrote:Lokum is also the Turkish word for Turkish delight. Probably a coincidence but you might be able to do something with it.

So Lokum is made out of jelly and chocolate? :mrgreen:
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kiralon wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:The hall of angels release a load of cherubs so lokum "May" be a cherub.

I would speak to Carmen about him.


I don't quite imagine Lokum as a cute little cherub flitting about (It brings elmer fudd flitting around with angel wings to mind)
I more imagined him to be an irritated Titan with wings that he ripped of a dragon because the dragon came too near.


You should read the original description of a cherub. They didn't start out as fat babies with wings.

Cherubim feature at some length in the Book of Ezekiel. When they first appear in chapter one, when Ezekiel was "by the river Chebar", they are not called cherubim until chapter 10, but he saw "the likeness of four living creatures". (Ezekiel 1:5) Each of them had four faces and four wings, with straight feet with a sole like the sole of a calf's foot, and "hands of a man" under their wings. Each had four faces: the face of a man, the face of a lion on the right side, the face of an ox on the left side, and the face of an eagle. (Ezekiel 1:6-10)
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I always thought of Lokum as an Ariel, but after going through Dragons and Gods and Old Ones, I can't find any reason for that assumption. Since saying his name in Old Ones brings a cohort of Cherubs, I am forced to assume he is a cherub. Which is kind of cool, actually.
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this is how I always imagined him
http://i.imgur.com/Zi2EM.jpg
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kiralon wrote:this is how I always imagined him
http://i.imgur.com/Zi2EM.jpg


I do like the Diablo angels looks wise.
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Tor wrote:I always figured Lictalon to be an Elf-God and Lokum to be an Angel-God.


I also assume that has Lictalon god status. He used to rule all of Hades and is the adopted father of a god - Tolmet the Cruel.

Obviously Lokum is a higher level Arch Angel. His name is a word of power after all akin with Old Ones and Dragon Gods.
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Perhaps we could make Lictalon one of those Demon Prince or Hell Lord guys in recent updates, if not a full Elf Demon Lord himself. I'm liking 'Hell Lord' since it lacks 'demon' in the title.
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I play Lokum as a force of righteous vengeance, I play Lictalon as an enigma, and generally have him found in the old heart of the forest of the GNW. The forest is dangerous and if you go in to it you don't come out, or come out as a badger or something like that.
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as far as appearance goes, i'd suspect that the line from ghostbuster's applies..

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I figure he's the closest thing to a good alien intelligence you're going to find in canon.
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It's not smart to insult Enki's grandpa like that, his mighty beard defends his family.
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