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Unread postPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 7:42 pm
  

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there are no direct answers canonically, but these are my answers:

only super regeneration, and as fast as it would regenerate its own limb.


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Unread postPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:15 am
  

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Shark_Force wrote:
there are no direct answers canonically, but these are my answers:

only super regeneration, and as fast as it would regenerate its own limb.

That's how we've played it as well.

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Unread postPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:28 am
  

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LostOne wrote:
Shark_Force wrote:
there are no direct answers canonically, but these are my answers:

only super regeneration, and as fast as it would regenerate its own limb.

That's how we've played it as well.


Not MDC value rate of arm but completion of suit limb percentage right? (e.g. The pilots arm isn't instantly regenerated with the first MD, but rather as the suits elbow is done so is the pilots, suits wrist and pilots wrist)
Or do.you think otherwise?

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Unread postPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:34 am
  

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Zer0 Kay wrote:
LostOne wrote:
Shark_Force wrote:
there are no direct answers canonically, but these are my answers:

only super regeneration, and as fast as it would regenerate its own limb.

That's how we've played it as well.


Not MDC value rate of arm but completion of suit limb percentage right? (e.g. The pilots arm isn't instantly regenerated with the first MD, but rather as the suits elbow is done so is the pilots, suits wrist and pilots wrist)
Or do.you think otherwise?


well, unless you rule that the entire arm is regenerated when the first point of MDC is regenerated for some reason (bearing in mind that i already said it takes as long to regenerate as it takes for the suit to regenerate), no it won't be on the first point of MDC.

in fact, i'm afb at the moment, but i'm pretty sure the time to regenerate a limb for the super regeneration host armour is in fact not measured in MDC at all, so i'm not even sure where that question came from. unless i'm remembering completely wrong, super regeneration recovers far more MDC in the amount of time it takes to regenerate a limb than their limb could ever hope to have.


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Unread postPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:01 pm
  

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Shark_Force wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:
LostOne wrote:
Shark_Force wrote:
there are no direct answers canonically, but these are my answers:

only super regeneration, and as fast as it would regenerate its own limb.

That's how we've played it as well.


Not MDC value rate of arm but completion of suit limb percentage right? (e.g. The pilots arm isn't instantly regenerated with the first MD, but rather as the suits elbow is done so is the pilots, suits wrist and pilots wrist)
Or do.you think otherwise?


well, unless you rule that the entire arm is regenerated when the first point of MDC is regenerated for some reason (bearing in mind that i already said it takes as long to regenerate as it takes for the suit to regenerate), no it won't be on the first point of MDC.

in fact, i'm afb at the moment, but i'm pretty sure the time to regenerate a limb for the super regeneration host armour is in fact not measured in MDC at all, so i'm not even sure where that question came from. unless i'm remembering completely wrong, super regeneration recovers far more MDC in the amount of time it takes to regenerate a limb than their limb could ever hope to have.


I too am AFB, but I think your right. Even though there is a Mac valu given it is for damage iirc limb regeneration is listed in time.

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Unread postPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:11 pm
  

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Follow up question to that.

With Super Regeneration you are able to regenerate via your armor as long as you remain inside it. The duration for an arm or leg is listed as 4d6+12 days. To regrow the limb you must remain inside the Host Armor the entire time. Exiting early leaves you with a "mishapened limb or no limb at all".

Since your Host Armor eats via its mouth, and you enter from its back, how does one eat, drink or take care of other bodily functions without leaving? The longest a human can go without food or water is much less than the 16 to 36 days required to regenerate.

The two options that come to mind is partially exiting the armor, which seems silly and like it could ruin the regeneration... or that you can somehow eat and drink with the armor on, which is unintuitive at best.


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Unread postPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:59 pm
  

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i would speculate that there are ways to feed a person much like an IV, except with biotech. in all probability, you either get to some sort of medical station where they can provide such forms of treatment, or you just starve to death (or more likely, die of dehydration) unless your host armour has some means of providing nourishment to you specifically (pretty sure that's an option for some metabolisms). in fact, depending on host armour metabolism, you likely need to get someplace safe with someone to care for you anyways, because you aren't gonna be doing much hunting with only one leg :P

frankly, keeping you alive rather than death coming in a matter of minutes is in and of itself very impressive.


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Unread postPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:06 pm
  

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I would assume the suits are designed to allow the pilot to stay in it for days or weeks at a time on missions. Not too safe or practical to get naked in hostile territory to eat, relieve yourself, etc. You can get food and water to the pilot just as easily as air IMO.

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Unread postPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 2:31 am
  

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Thanks for all the help.


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Unread postPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:28 am
  

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ZulkirJhor wrote:
Since your Host Armor eats via its mouth, and you enter from its back, how does one eat, drink or take care of other bodily functions without leaving? The longest a human can go without food or water is much less than the 16 to 36 days required to regenerate.

Certain metabolisms can provide nourishment, but there is a new enhancement in the "Genetic Expressions" that covers this specifically for other armors.

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Unread postPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:34 am
  

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The Galactus Kid wrote:
ZulkirJhor wrote:
Since your Host Armor eats via its mouth, and you enter from its back, how does one eat, drink or take care of other bodily functions without leaving? The longest a human can go without food or water is much less than the 16 to 36 days required to regenerate.

Certain metabolisms can provide nourishment, but there is a new enhancement in the "Genetic Expressions" that covers this specifically for other armors.

iirc this was covered in one of the rifters...

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Unread postPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:50 am
  

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We had the enhancement written for a while, so we may have included it in Rifter #50.

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Ziggurat the Eternal wrote:
I'm not sure if its possible, but if it isn't, then possible will just have to get over it.

Ninjabunny wrote:
You are playing to have fun and be a part of a story,no one is aiming to "beat" the GM, nor should any GM be looking to beat his players.

Marrowlight wrote:
The Shameless Plug would be a good new account name for you. 8-)

ALAshbaugh wrote:
Because DINOSAURS.


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Unread postPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:18 am
  

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I didn't realize Rifter 50 had Splicers stuff in it, will have to borrow that from a friend. What other Rifters have Splicers material in them? I know 32, 37, 38 and now 50.

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Unread postPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:52 pm
  

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LostOne wrote:
I didn't realize Rifter 50 had Splicers stuff in it, will have to borrow that from a friend. What other Rifters have Splicers material in them? I know 32, 37, 38 and now 50.

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Unread postPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:05 am
  

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Shark_Force for the win.

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Ziggurat the Eternal wrote:
I'm not sure if its possible, but if it isn't, then possible will just have to get over it.

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You are playing to have fun and be a part of a story,no one is aiming to "beat" the GM, nor should any GM be looking to beat his players.

Marrowlight wrote:
The Shameless Plug would be a good new account name for you. 8-)

ALAshbaugh wrote:
Because DINOSAURS.


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ZulkirJhor wrote:
Since your Host Armor eats via its mouth, and you enter from its back, how does one eat, drink or take care of other bodily functions without leaving? The longest a human can go without food or water is much less than the 16 to 36 days required to regenerate.

The two options that come to mind is partially exiting the armor, which seems silly and like it could ruin the regeneration... or that you can somehow eat and drink with the armor on, which is unintuitive at best.


Just because the armor eats via its mouth doesn't necessarily mean it can't feed you through that orifice too, does it?

Although some don't have mouths, like the solar-powered...

I always figured it could accept food somehow, and take care of waste removal by inserting some kind of biological catheter where needed.

If you had to exit armor, why not just let the regen pick up where it left off when you re-enter later? Maybe with some kind of waiting period at first to re-acclimate before it begins again.

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