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Unread postPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:17 pm
  

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Worked in changes suggested in the Chat.
Here is version 2.0
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-zF-t ... Z3d2s/view

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Unread postPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:52 am
  

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Comment: Palladium Books Canon is set solely by Kevin Siembieda, either in person, or by his approval of published material.
Okay...
So question.
What positions do we want/need?
Captain
Executive Officer
Sergeant
are all givens
But what about?
Medic
Mage
Cook
Quartermaster (Both modern version, or pirate version)
Clerk
Mechanic
Scout
Security
Science

And of those positions, which should be simply jobs, and which should draw extra pay.

Also, do we want grades with in positions?
Or seniority pay?
What about special skills pay?
What about, instead of a rank... that you get a set pay bonus for fulfilling certain jobs.
So, for example, if you have magic or psychic powers that you put to the groups use regularly and on demand, then you get paid an extra 10% or what have you?

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Unread postPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 3:46 am
  

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eliakon wrote:
Okay...
So question.
What positions do we want/need?
Captain
Executive Officer
Sergeant
are all givens
But what about?
Medic
Mage
Cook
Quartermaster (Both modern version, or pirate version)
Clerk
Mechanic
Scout
Security
Science

There are a number of 'Senior Staff' positions that can be listed.
Spoiler:
Commanding Officer
Executive Officer
Second Officer
Third Officer
Chief Communications Officer
Chief Science Officer
Chief Medical Officer
Chief Engineer
Chief Tactical Officer
Security Chief
Chief Helmsman
Chief Navigator
Flight Controller
Chief Operations Officer
Strategic Operations Officer
Intelligence Officer
Chief of Operations
Morale Officer
Ambassador


As well as non-officer important positions such as
Spoiler:
Sergeant
Quartermaster
Reconnaissance
Chef
and more.


You can look up a large number of various lists of such positions. However some positions I think would go together in a crew such as ours, such as:
    Captain / Commanding Officer
    First Mate/ Executive Officer
    Sergeant / Coxswain / Boatswain
    Quartermaster / Clerk / Operations
    Engineer / Mechanic / Carpenter
    Medical Officer / Doctor / Surgeon
    Tactical Officer / Security Officer / Master Gunner
    Helmsman / Navigator / Pilot
    Science Officer
    Chef / Cook / Cookie
    Communications / Ambassador / Diplomat / Fence
    Reconnaissance / Ranger / Scout / Striker

And being in Rifts I think there would be at least one preternatural specialist officer/position, if not more, such as:
    Magician / Wizard / Chief Magic Officer
    Psychic / Chief Psionics Officer

eliakon wrote:
And of those positions, which should be simply jobs, and which should draw extra pay.

Also, do we want grades with in positions?
Or seniority pay?
What about special skills pay?
What about, instead of a rank... that you get a set pay bonus for fulfilling certain jobs.
So, for example, if you have magic or psychic powers that you put to the groups use regularly and on demand, then you get paid an extra 10% or what have you?

I think the Captain should be at a separate pay scale, the highest (though if we go with the Golden Age of Piracy model then Quatermaster would be at the same pay scale as Captain).
Executive Officer, Chief Engineer, Chief Medical Officer, and whichever officer is also made Second Officer, should be at a level under Captain but above the rest, as these roles have much to do. Perhaps the Sergeant / Coxswain should be here as well in pay scale.
However all other officers/titled positions can be at the same scale here, just under the above.

I dont know how seniority pay would work unless we have a level of pay below the EX group but above other named positions, but I would only suggest one seniority tier, otherwise it gets complicated. How senior is senior?

I think special skills pay might cause issues, I am not sure that is a good idea.

Bonuses might work, if structured, but again, hard to do in a way that wont cause issues via competition for bonuses.

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Unread postPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:19 pm
  

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Factored in additional changed suggested.
Here is version 2.2
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-zF-t ... dZS3c/view

Note: All future changes will be uploaded to this same link, so this will be the link to save if you want to keep a record or up to date.

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Unread postPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:35 am
  

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I misspoke last night. I`m in Idaho.
I am planning on seeing totality on the marrow.
Will reed the log when I get home.

P.S. edit…I ended up seeing totality in Oregon & it was worth the traveling there to see it.

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Unread postPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:25 pm
  

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Comment: Palladium Books Canon is set solely by Kevin Siembieda, either in person, or by his approval of published material.
Log, Articles, and new Who's Who is up.
Everyone got paid so, all PCs now have their salary. Payment was in silver coins with value based on the silver content.
Due to debasing, that works out to ~200cr per oz.

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The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."


It's RIFTS Earth; the impossible happens before breakfast, twice on Tuesdays. And if it hasn't, then the GM hasn't tried hard enough and the players are lazy. :D -DhAkael

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Unread postPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:31 pm
  

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Eli - Maintaining the logs is huge weight off my shoulders.


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Unread postPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:43 pm
  

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Comment: Palladium Books Canon is set solely by Kevin Siembieda, either in person, or by his approval of published material.
sirkermittsg wrote:
Eli - Maintaining the logs is huge weight off my shoulders.

Your welcome. Thank you.
:bandit:

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Edmund Burke wrote:
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."


It's RIFTS Earth; the impossible happens before breakfast, twice on Tuesdays. And if it hasn't, then the GM hasn't tried hard enough and the players are lazy. :D -DhAkael

Knowledge is Power, Power Corrupts, Study Hard


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Unread postPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:38 am
  

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Comment: Being a moderator doesn't mean I speak for Palladium Books. It just makes me the lifeguard at their pool.
At this point I am going to trim this thread and recommend that a public forum is not the best place to resolve personal disputes.

The posts pulled from this thread will be reviewed for forum rules breaches if we see a continuation of this sort of bickering from these individuals.

The moderation team highly recommends that those individuals who have difficulty getting along make use of the for feature so that they don't have to see each other's posts.

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Unread postPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:00 pm
  

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Jefffar wrote:
At this point I am going to trim this thread and recommend that a public forum is not the best place to resolve personal disputes.

The posts pulled from this thread will be reviewed for forum rules breaches if we see a continuation of this sort of bickering from these individuals.

The moderation team highly recommends that those individuals who have difficulty getting along make use of the for feature so that they don't have to see each other's posts.

Finally, this is a gaming site. This dispute is about a game. The purpose of a game is to have fun. If our are not having fun no matter what you do, I recommend you find a different game. If you are making it unfun for someone else, I recommend you find ways to help them have fun before they need to look for a different game.


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