Carrying the Ton Zen

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Carrying the Ton Zen

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MCp35 it says you need a PS14 to lift this 200+lb 3ft long monstrosity by the ankles, and without any penalties if you have a unique WP for it... but even though someone with PS14 could lift it (especially since in N&SS for some reason the base lifting multiplier is x30 instead of x20 like in other books) the base carrying multiplier is still merely x10...

So someone with PS14 could basically lift it and stay in a stationary position to fight with the weapon, but couldn't actually move their feet to transport it? Shouldn't this negate things like an ability to dodge while using the weapon? Or if an opponent is using a longer weapon (like a 4ft spear let's say) that they could strike with impunity and you couldn't hit back at all? This isn't a weapon that could be thrown very far, after all.

I'm wondering if 14 could possibly be a typo and we should treat the minimum PS as 15 because that's when the lift/carry multipliers (in N&SS) change from 30/10 to 40/20 which would kind of make this seem simpler.

I kinda wish with PS lift/carry there was more of a gradual increase instead of that huge jump. If someone was on the cusp of a range they could double their strenght just by taking Athletics =/

Also would anyone know how to calculate the damage it would inflict to drop this on someone? We have fall damage, but that's if the victim is the person falling. Would someone/something who gets fallen on take the same damage as someone/something doing the falling? Of course stuff like floors should probably have ARs or damage absorb because a lot of them are strong enough that a human falling on them wouldn't do anything if it wasn't from high enough.
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I had always assumed it was a type-o, and was meant to say 20 lbs. That would make it the equivalent size/weight of a large sledgehammer. Not easy to wield in combat, but if the character in question had a high enough strength (14+, for example) then it would be feasable.

Swinging a 200 lb object would be basically impossible for an ordinary human.
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mmmh, what's the volume of a 3ft tall statue of a human, and the volumic mass of brass?
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All depends on proportions... if we could calculate the average weight of a 6ft tall man, and assume that human bodies have roughly the same weight:volume ratio as water, then we could calculate the weight of a 6ft tall brass man based on that same volume and then reduce it down to 3ft.

Course we would not just halve it since weight is cubic. The weight of a cubic centimeter of water is 1 gram but the weight of a cube that is 2x2x2 centimetres (8 cubic centimeters in volume) is 8 grams. So if we halved the height we would have to 1/8 the weight, I think.
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