Tai-Chi Ch´uan and Push Open Hand

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Tai-Chi Ch´uan and Push Open Hand

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I´m not sure about the special move "push open hand" with Tai-Chi Ch´uan. It says: Any victim failing to counter the attack will be knocked back a number of feet equal to the attacker´s Chi.

1.) In this sentence, who is the attacker? The one who attacks me or I am who is doing the "push open hand"?
2.) This is a very powerful move. If the attacker e. g. has 100 Chi (2 or 3 Chi orientated martial arts and possible modifiers), when the other will be pushed back 100 feet ( about 30 meters). And it´s possible to have much more Chi.

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1) The one preforming the "push open hand".

2) Yes, it is a powerful move.
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The char with Tai-Chi and using the 'open hand push' is the attacker.

The move is used the push an opponent out of melee attack range. So the opponent have to use up their APM to get back into range. Also, so that there are not multiple attackers, attacking simotaniusly.
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Finegael wrote:I´m not sure about the special move "push open hand" with Tai-Chi Ch´uan. It says: Any victim failing to counter the attack will be knocked back a number of feet equal to the attacker´s Chi.

1.) In this sentence, who is the attacker? The one who attacks me or I am who is doing the "push open hand"?

As people have written, the attacker is the one executing the Push Open Hand.

Finegael wrote:2.) This is a very powerful move. If the attacker e. g. has 100 Chi (2 or 3 Chi orientated martial arts and possible modifiers), when the other will be pushed back 100 feet ( about 30 meters). And it´s possible to have much more Chi.

Yup, it's one of my favorite moves.
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Tyciol wrote:It's still rather mysterious in a lot of ways. Such as: at what speed are they being pushed back? Do they fly through the air or sword of skid along the ground, dragging their heels (or maybe on their toes like those witches in The Craft).

Like, if I used this and there was a wall behind the person, do they just gently stop against the wall, or slam into it? Especially a spiked wall!

Or like, presumably this is a totally horizantal move so you couldn't hit on top of someone to bash them into the ground or make them go flying into the air, but what about inclines and stuff? Can you push someone 100ft uphill? Or if you hit someone going downhill would they go further or need to save vs balance?

I'd say the force and speed of the push would depend on how much Chi the person using the Push Open Hand has. A little chi equals a slow, gentle push while a lot of chi is a hard, fast push.
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I've always pictured it being like a force push or like TK push. The victim would be thrown back in the air, not high off the ground, but not touching the ground until the end of the distance. It would really interesting for those rooftop battles or places where the battle could have interesting results.
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macksting wrote:I'll grant that this move should almost certainly be useful on rooftops, near ravines, or in other circumstances where you can add gravity as a serious consideration to the mix; also probably useful for tossing people into other rooms.

Don't forget pushing people into traffic!
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I would say that it would depend on the angle of the strike in question. This would aldo take into consideration the height difference of those fighting.

As for the possable Knock back damage(I.E. Being slammed into a wall etc...) Id say no more than 2d6 depending on what they were knocked back into. The Last fight of "Enter the Dragon" comes to mind. In which case the weapon damage is added to the knock back damage.
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