From the latest weekly update - new game system?

sHaka · Unread post by **sHaka** » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:41 pm

From this week's update

"We’re developing new products, new ideas and maybe even a new game system for release over the next year or two."

Do you think "game line" was meant, or that they're actually looking to bring out something completely new, like an updated or completely different game mechanic?

jaymz · Unread post by **jaymz** » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:53 pm

I hope it isn't a new line. They can't support the ones they have now properly outside of Rifts....

Unread post by **NMI** » Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:56 pm

*remains sitting in his chair, both hands clamped over his mouth so that he can't speak of what he knows.

JimmyB · Unread post by **JimmyB** » Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:04 pm

Im a strong advocate of the Multi-Verse. A new system is just another resource for me

Jeremy_Black · Unread post by **Jeremy_Black** » Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:04 pm

In the Roleplay Roullette interview video from another thread, Kevin teases the possibility of a PF Ultimate Edition, maybe something like that? If the rules for RRT are so great maybe they'll expand that to other things like Rifts or HU mini rules? (That second one is just conjecture or perhaps wishful thinking on my part).

-A

Killer Cyborg · Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:12 pm

NMI wrote:*remains sitting in his chair, both hands clamped over his mouth so that he can't speak of what he knows.

Intriguing.

When NMI doesn't talk, everybody listens.

Slight001 · Unread post by **Slight001** » Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:46 pm

Killer Cyborg wrote:
NMI wrote:*remains sitting in his chair, both hands clamped over his mouth so that he can't speak of what he knows.

Intriguing.

When NMI doesn't talk, everybody listens.

Yep got my attention.

TagsPB · Unread post by **TagsPB** » Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:02 pm

Depending on what NMI was let in on.......I have given Kevin my input on it and said yes.
And yes not letting people know is a pain. But when I was told......I was like "YES!!!" And Kevin was looking like a kid in a candy shop.

Alpha 11 · Unread post by **Alpha 11** » Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:59 pm

Slight001 wrote:
Killer Cyborg wrote:
NMI wrote:*remains sitting in his chair, both hands clamped over his mouth so that he can't speak of what he knows.

Intriguing.

When NMI doesn't talk, everybody listens.

Yep got my attention.

3rd!

Unread post by **NMI** » Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:04 pm

and because his hands are covering his mouth, they can't be used to type out responses to PM's either!

Marcus · Unread post by **Marcus** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:21 am

NMI wrote:and because his hands are covering his mouth, they can't be used to type out responses to PM's either!

So you typed this with your feet? Kinda impressive.

The Galactus Kid · Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:07 am

NMI wrote:*remains sitting in his chair, both hands clamped over his mouth so that he can't speak of what he knows.

Right?

CyCo · Unread post by **CyCo** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:09 am

Slight001 wrote:
Killer Cyborg wrote:
NMI wrote:*remains sitting in his chair, both hands clamped over his mouth so that he can't speak of what he knows.

Intriguing.

When NMI doesn't talk, everybody listens.

Yep got my attention.

Yeah. So, we get the Killer Cyborg to hold NMI down (after all, he's a cyborg), then we give him atomic wegies and noogies until he spills the beans? Or....withhold his bacon rations. Harsh, I know, but ends suits the means. Or, something like that.

;]

JimmyB · Unread post by **JimmyB** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:20 am

No Bacon!!!!!

Im glad I am not NMI....

Glistam · Unread post by **Glistam** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:35 am

Well this is just frustrating. Can we at least expect the beans to be spilled sometime soon? Or is that also in the realm of "I know something you don't know" and we can't even be told that?

mumah · Unread post by **mumah** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 3:30 pm

Sometimes the burden of signing an NDA is a real pain, but others, like this one, it can be a real joy.

Killer Cyborg · Mon Aug 25, 2014 3:41 pm

mumah wrote:Sometimes the burden of signing an NDA is a real pain, but others, like this one, it can be a real joy.

Man, now I'm really getting curious.
:-D

Carl Gleba · Unread post by **Carl Gleba** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:22 pm

mumah wrote:Sometimes the burden of signing an NDA is a real pain, but others, like this one, it can be a real joy.

Good answer :ok:

Jeremy_Black · Unread post by **Jeremy_Black** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:22 pm

Yup, extremely curious...

Spinachcat · Unread post by **Spinachcat** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:07 pm

Mechanoid Space 4 teh win???

Or PB going to join the 5e D&D bandwagon once the new GSL/OGL is launched next year since they missed the D20 cash cow?

Killer Cyborg · Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:45 am

Spinachcat wrote:Or PB going to join the 5e D&D bandwagon once the new GSL/OGL is launched next year since they missed the D20 cash cow?

That's interesting!

I can't see them doing that, though.

The Oh So Amazing Nate · Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:55 am

Spinachcat wrote:Or PB going to join the 5e D&D bandwagon once the new GSL/OGL is launched next year since they missed the D20 cash cow?

Well that'd be nice. I think we'd see plenty of new information for our favorite neglected game lines.

While I did see the video where KS talked about exciting new game lines, I think what we're being subjected to here, in this thread by those "in the know", is a trolling of epic proportions.

Just my thoughts

Glistam · Unread post by **Glistam** » Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:40 am

Perhaps they're negotiating a new IP to make games for, or renewing an old license...?

Killer Cyborg · Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:02 pm

Assuming that they actually meant a new system...
-I think we can safely rule out a megaversal rules system 2.0. Even if they had the inclination, they haven't had the time.
-They've expressed enough disinterest in the D&D OGL in the past that I doubt that they'd go for that now.
-It's possible that they've found some other company interested in converting Rifts into another system. Like "GURPS Rifts" or something. (probably not GURPS, though)
-It's possible that Palladium is picking up some small-time game with a different system, and publishing it. IIRC, something like that is how they got the original Recon.
-It's possible that they're trying for some non-rpg kind of game, like a CCG or something, and that's what they mean. Although I doubt that they'd go for CCGs again, and it'd seem odd to use the term "system" for that.

OR it's possible that they've been picking at something that they mentioned a while back, a rules-light, beginner version of Rifts for younger players called "Boomers."
That's the kind of thing that they might have had the time to do.
It'd arguably be a new "system."
It wouldn't have to involve other companies, so they wouldn't end up in a Manhunters situation, or a N-Gage situation, or a situation like they did with the CCG, or any of the other stuff that may have made Palladium a bit wary of working with other companies.
This one seems to be the simplest explanation that fits the facts, so that's what I'm going to wager my $0 on.

Damian Magecraft · Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:35 pm

I recall a conversation I had with Kevin a few years back at Origins.
During which he asked me a question I thought odd at the time...
He mentioned the possibility of an entirely new line of game and wanted to know if I would be interested in a new system unrelated to the current one.
I did not think much of the question at the time (I get the impression he steered every conversation that day towards that question) but now...

WilhelmRochRedDuke · Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:24 pm

was that secret project X or secret project Y?

drewkitty ~..~ · Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:53 pm

jaymz wrote:I hope it isn't a new line. They can't support the ones they have now properly outside of Rifts....

Generally agrees with this.

Alpha 11 wrote:
Slight001 wrote:
Killer Cyborg wrote:
NMI wrote:*remains sitting in his chair, both hands clamped over his mouth so that he can't speak of what he knows.

Intriguing.

When NMI doesn't talk, everybody listens.

Yep got my attention.

3rd!

NMI wrote:and because his hands are covering his mouth, they can't be used to type out responses to PM's either!

LOL

Shark_Force · Unread post by **Shark_Force** » Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:26 pm

Killer Cyborg wrote:
Spinachcat wrote:Or PB going to join the 5e D&D bandwagon once the new GSL/OGL is launched next year since they missed the D20 cash cow?

That's interesting!

I can't see them doing that, though.

yeah, i doubt it. if they wanted, they could've gotten in on pathfinder anyways, it's not like they'd have to wait for whatever 5e brings.

Tiree · Unread post by **Tiree** » Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:59 pm

With whatever they decide to do. I hope they hire an Editor that can go over the book with a fine tooth comb, and call out the inconsistencies and correct issues. Make the new game internally consistent and play test the rules prior to publishing it (even if it means a pre-released published or pdf version). When they go about releasing it - I hope they actually release a PDF Copy as well, because you know the fans have been asking for it.

And in doing so - Actually use their fanbase ie Megaversal Ambassadors to promote and demo the game line with actual material from the game line via swag. And maybe use that fanbase to also help edit the final release as well.

But - I could be dreaming of a utopian like future... you know where Sarah and Hillary are on a sitcom remake of the Odd Couple.

Spinachcat · Unread post by **Spinachcat** » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:50 am

Hmm...Jason Richard's Breachworld had a successful Kickstarter...

...and Kevin's blurb for the game was rather effusive...

....and Jason has a good track record of quality material...

....and a Jason Richards / Palladium venture would give PB a "new system", but minimal work for PB in-house...

...and Palladium has the infrastructure for distribution...

Hmm...

Killer Cyborg · Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:20 am

Spinachcat wrote:Hmm...Jason Richard's Breachworld had a successful Kickstarter...

...and Kevin's blurb for the game was rather effusive...

....and Jason has a good track record of quality material...

....and a Jason Richards / Palladium venture would give PB a "new system", but minimal work for PB in-house...

...and Palladium has the infrastructure for distribution...

Hmm...

Huh.

That would be interesting!

Daniel Stoker · Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:43 am

I find myself doubtful that that would be it as after talking to Jason a while back I don't think he'd want to give up the control for his baby that would be required for Kevin to publish it.

Daniel Stoker

Jason Richards · Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:34 pm

Did somebody light the Jasonbeacon?

If this tease has anything to do with Breachworld, it's the first I've heard. :-)

Speaking of which, there is an extended pledge drive going on visa Paypal for those that might have missed the Kickstarter. 100% of the proceeds fund additional awesome for the book and supplements. No profit. Mention that you're a Palladiumite and I'll even cut you a special deal.

Details at www.breachworld.com or you can just email me at jasonrichards.net@gmail.com and we will talk about it.

Killer Cyborg · Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:38 pm

Jason Richards wrote:Did somebody light the Jasonbeacon?

If this tease has anything to do with Breachworld, it's the first I've heard.

I figured... but it's nice to have it confirmed.

Unread post by **NMI** » Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:28 pm

Glistam wrote:Well this is just frustrating. Can we at least expect the beans to be spilled sometime soon? Or is that also in the realm of "I know something you don't know" and we can't even be told that?

Oh, I can tell you that I know something. Not a problem whatsoever.

I KNOW SOMETHING!!!

Killer Cyborg · Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:35 pm

I'm sure that the beans WILL be spilled "soon."

(Of course, that's "soon" in Palladium Time.

)

Spinachcat · Unread post by **Spinachcat** » Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:40 pm

Jason Richards wrote:If this tease has anything to do with Breachworld, it's the first I've heard.

Bummer. PB expanding their scope into Imprints for small publishers would be interesting.

drewkitty ~..~ · Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:55 pm

The one thing that has come to mind is PB doing a miniature gamebooks for PB titles to mirror RTT.

Unread post by **NMI** » Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:39 pm

Spinachcat wrote:
Jason Richards wrote:If this tease has anything to do with Breachworld, it's the first I've heard.

Bummer. PB expanding their scope into Imprints for small publishers would be interesting.

They tried something "like" this with Myrimiddon Press with "Manhunter".

The Galactus Kid · Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:28 am

WilhelmRochRedDuke wrote:was that secret project X or secret project Y?

X

Glistam · Unread post by **Glistam** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:38 am

I vaguely recall someone from Palladium once mentioning a desire to make a Palladium RPG that was inspired by Robotech but wasn't actually Robotech. Am I remembering some sort of crazy fever dream? Could this be related to that?

oni no won · Unread post by **oni no won** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:30 pm

I highly doubt Palladium would update their existing IPs over to the new system because that would invalidate tons of splatbooks. I see two ways of intrepreting this:

1. Our definition of a new system is not the same as Palladium and we may just get another incremental update (such as was the case with the making of RIFTS Ultimate).

2. It is a completely new system in which it will most likely be tied to a new IP.

MurderCityDisciple · Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:06 am

I'd hope that some energy be channeled to BTS, Mechanoids, Fantasy, Heroes and all the other promised and long neglected lines.

I would rather see that or just discontinue them, if a new game line has more momentum.

Unread post by **NMI** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:14 pm

The Galactus Kid wrote:
WilhelmRochRedDuke wrote:was that secret project X or secret project Y?

X

Wrong!!!
It was an adaption of Recon and Urban Jungle and N&SS to make the new setting for: xXx!!!

Unread post by **NMI** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:15 pm

Glistam wrote:I vaguely recall someone from Palladium once mentioning a desire to make a Palladium RPG that was inspired by Robotech but wasn't actually Robotech. Am I remembering some sort of crazy fever dream? Could this be related to that?

That was Wayne Breaux wanting to make a Mecha setting RPG.

DhAkael · Unread post by **DhAkael** » Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:56 pm

NMI wrote:
Glistam wrote:I vaguely recall someone from Palladium once mentioning a desire to make a Palladium RPG that was inspired by Robotech but wasn't actually Robotech. Am I remembering some sort of crazy fever dream? Could this be related to that?

That was Wayne Breaux wanting to make a Mecha setting RPG.

He also wanted to expand the Attorian Empire (and Aliens Unlimmited of HU2); sadly neither project went past the "Comming soon to Pbooks" promo stage before he hung up his RPG-writing hat.

pblackcrow · Unread post by **pblackcrow** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:03 am

NMI wrote:*remains sitting in his chair, both hands clamped over his mouth so that he can't speak of what he knows.

You can type with your toes without speaking. Trust me Mate, I do it all the time.

pblackcrow · Unread post by **pblackcrow** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:16 am

NMI wrote:
Spinachcat wrote:
Jason Richards wrote:If this tease has anything to do with Breachworld, it's the first I've heard.

Bummer. PB expanding their scope into Imprints for small publishers would be interesting.

They tried something "like" this with Myrimiddon Press with "Manhunter".

Yeah, I loved it! Others didn't. Anyway...I don't see a problem with telling us the genra. Steam punk, mecha tech, fantasy, sci-fi, etc?

Glistam · Unread post by **Glistam** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:49 pm

NMI wrote:
Glistam wrote:I vaguely recall someone from Palladium once mentioning a desire to make a Palladium RPG that was inspired by Robotech but wasn't actually Robotech. Am I remembering some sort of crazy fever dream? Could this be related to that?

That was Wayne Breaux wanting to make a Mecha setting RPG.

That sounds like what I was remembering. Thanks.

thedrunk · Unread post by **thedrunk** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:19 am

Maybe, the system isnt a new game rule system, or a ip maybe it is bringing it to a new system?

A program to play pen and paper MMO through multimedia devices such as phones, tablets, computers? enabling old IP to be used and creating a nice little D-Bee CashCow