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by RiverJack
Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:14 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Robotech Masters faught the Perytonians?!
Replies: 3
Views: 2770

Robotech Masters faught the Perytonians?!

So I was having a talk with my friend about the Perytonians before the events of the SDF 1 landing on Earth happened, and I saw something interesting, I saw what looked like a vague reference to a conflict between the Masters and the Perytonians. My question is "is anyone aware of a war between...
by RiverJack
Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:23 am
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Robotech Names: New, Old, and BattleTech
Replies: 40
Views: 75800

Re: Robotech Names: New, Old, and BattleTech

Defender - Raidar X in old RPG, Rifleman in Battletech Tomahawk - Excalibur in old RPG, Warhammer or Warhammer IIC in Battletech Spartan - Gladiator in old RPG, Archer in Battletech Phalanx - Spartan in old RPG, Longbow in Battletech Monster - Mac II in old RPG, Behemoth in Batteldroids (precursor ...
by RiverJack
Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:13 am
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: GU-11 or GU-12?
Replies: 160
Views: 95247

Re: GU-11 or GU-12?

If I were to use the GU-12 in the 2nd edition of Robotech, then I would make it a Semi-Auto weapon. Since it is a 100mm bore calibur weapon according to the 1e rdf manual, Depending on the choice of ammo, Id say that it should have similar damage to that of a 105mm VHT round. Also due to the RECOIL...
by RiverJack
Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:45 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: The Bioroid Interceptor and the Bioroid Invid Fighter
Replies: 9
Views: 6059

Re: The Bioroid Interceptor and the Bioroid Invid Fighter

I have a few questions on the Bioroid Interceptor, which will tie in with the Bioroid Invid Fighter. The first question is one on continuity: According to the RPG, the Bioroid Interceptor was based on the Bioroid Invid Fighters that the UEEF fought on Tirol. This is canon, since both the notes in P...
by RiverJack
Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:08 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Harmony Gold to sue Hasbro over TF/GIJoe set?
Replies: 54
Views: 21182

Re: Harmony Gold to sue Hasbro over TF/GIJoe set?

One of HGs claims is that this new Jetfire collectable will confuse the people that see or buy it. Well the fact it says G.I. Joe and transformers on the box should be a clear indication that this collectable is not a Robotech/Macross collectable. 99% at the least of people that would want to buy th...
by RiverJack
Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:54 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: MAC III Little Monster appearing in Rtech: Love, Live, Alive
Replies: 28
Views: 11702

Re: MAC III Little Monster appearing in Rtech: Love, Live, A

Well, I had a chance to watch R: LLA with Colonel Wolfe just a short while ago. Interesting is the nicest word I could mention (godawful might be another). The high point was seeing the MAC III Little Monster in the scene with Dana during the hasty evacuation of the 15th Squadron's battalion laager...
by RiverJack
Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:47 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Updated First RW Mecha in the Sentinels campaign.....
Replies: 151
Views: 36560

Re: Updated First RW Mecha in the Sentinels campaign.....

No offense but yo may want to reread those tech sources. They are not lasers at all in the traditional sense as you seem to be inferring. Well I did say exotic Lasers, I also made a list of things we can do with Lasers now that they do in SW. Star Wars the new essential guide to weapons and technol...
by RiverJack
Tue Jun 04, 2013 5:12 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Updated First RW Mecha in the Sentinels campaign.....
Replies: 151
Views: 36560

Re: Updated First RW Mecha in the Sentinels campaign.....

Both in real-world applications, and in science fiction in general, laser technology does not fall under the umbrella of particle beam technology for a variety of reasons. For the purposes of our discussion, and as a simple fact of the terminology's use in the real world, a laser is not a particle ...
by RiverJack
Fri May 31, 2013 5:47 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Updated First RW Mecha in the Sentinels campaign.....
Replies: 151
Views: 36560

Re: Updated First RW Mecha in the Sentinels campaign.....

Well RT does have laser resistant materials, so it is unlikely any faction is going to want to rely solely on one type of weapon (and bullets are cheaper than missiles). Energy resistant, in fact, since Bioroid drum and disc-blasters aren't lasers. Are you sure that Disc-blasters are not Lasers? I ...
by RiverJack
Fri May 31, 2013 5:42 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Updated First RW Mecha in the Sentinels campaign.....
Replies: 151
Views: 36560

Re: Updated First RW Mecha in the Sentinels campaign.....

Honestly, I don't see any need... the RPG is not canon, full stop. Never All the more reason to have wide variety of options for their forces to be able to engage with so they can be as effective as possible. Yeah or just use weapons so powerful that it doesn't matter if the armor is resistant or n...
by RiverJack
Fri May 31, 2013 5:33 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Updated First RW Mecha in the Sentinels campaign.....
Replies: 151
Views: 36560

Re: Updated First RW Mecha in the Sentinels campaign.....

The SDF-1 and Tri-star versions show barrel life is a non-issue with them (neither the 2E RPG nor the Infopedia mention such a fact) indicating it would be a non-issue for the Monster or other platforms by 2009. Yes, but 2E is not canon, and the Infopedia is legendarily sparse information-wise... t...
by RiverJack
Mon May 27, 2013 2:11 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: How do you get them down?
Replies: 39
Views: 11996

Re: How do you get them down?

Ok besides the obvious, Quiltra Queleul landing ship, Horizont drop ship, the Re-entry pod, ............... How do you get your players from space to the ground? What is cinematic and awesome............ While plausible it is the 4-6 players that are the heroes of the mission? I don't it has to be ...
by RiverJack
Mon May 27, 2013 2:03 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Updated First RW Mecha in the Sentinels campaign.....
Replies: 151
Views: 36560

Re: Updated First RW Mecha in the Sentinels campaign.....

railguns would actually require less power than a energy weapon of equivalent ability to impart damage. My point exactly.... It depends on the power source, they type of energy weapon you are comparing the railgun too, how the railgun is built. In the end though Lasers really are the most powerful ...
by RiverJack
Fri May 17, 2013 5:47 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: What is canon now ??
Replies: 14
Views: 4186

Re: What is canon now ??

I saw somewhere in another thread that Shadow Chronicals is the re-boot for Robotech. What is now canon ?? Really it all depends on what sort of Robotech fan you are. If you where first introduced to Robotech trough the rpgs and these things are all you really care about then all the books in 1 and...
by RiverJack
Wed May 15, 2013 7:59 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: flower of life
Replies: 6
Views: 2489

Re: flower of life

The rules for such, as there is, are in the RT New Generation 2nd ed. book and the RCB1 (not revised). By in large any FoL infestations (both mutant and pure bred) will typically attract Invid to the world eventually. How do Invid react to the Flower of Death? I am talking about the bred of FoL tha...
by RiverJack
Wed May 15, 2013 3:31 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Updated First RW Mecha in the Sentinels campaign.....
Replies: 151
Views: 36560

Re: Updated First RW Mecha in the Sentinels campaign.....

This still comes back to the surplus energy the mecha is capable of generating. That would allow any source to be used to power the rail gun technically, where it would differ is in rates of fire. Even then the power needed would vary for the intended role (and desired performance of) the railgun. ...
by RiverJack
Wed May 15, 2013 3:19 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: flower of life
Replies: 6
Views: 2489

Re: flower of life

The rules for such, as there is, are in the RT New Generation 2nd ed. book and the RCB1 (not revised). By in large any FoL infestations (both mutant and pure bred) will typically attract Invid to the world eventually. How do Invid react to the Flower of Death? I am talking about the bred of FoL tha...
by RiverJack
Mon May 13, 2013 11:16 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Updated First RW Mecha in the Sentinels campaign.....
Replies: 151
Views: 36560

Re: Updated First RW Mecha in the Sentinels campaign.....

Except that we now have the Zent Officer's pod equipped with 44mm rail cannon's as the lower forearm weapons. Hm... you have a point there. I'd forgotten that the RPG misidentified the impact cannons on the arms as railguns there. I don't think it was misidentified, but a way to work railguns into ...
by RiverJack
Fri May 10, 2013 5:36 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Robotech RPG Tactics - The Sentinels
Replies: 29
Views: 8337

Re: Robotech RPG Tactics - The Sentinels

Actually, we see in Prelude that the Inorganics are still in use. There is no reason to believe the 'REF Destroids' were not procured and used during the war to find Tirol. The entry on the Interceptor Bioroid states that the Zentraedi mecha were mostly destroyed during these long battles so there ...
by RiverJack
Wed May 01, 2013 4:26 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Robotech RPG Tactics - The Sentinels
Replies: 29
Views: 8337

Re: Robotech RPG Tactics - The Sentinels

Seriously? Did they really have to de-canonize the Sentinels, which was awesome, simply in order to justify the Shadow Chronicles, which was anything but. Hopefully at least the Inorganics and the GMU make it somehow. I don’t care if we call them “alternate continuity” or whatever. But the politics...
by RiverJack
Wed May 01, 2013 4:15 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: E.B.S.I.S. - Eastern Baltic Soveriegn Independant States
Replies: 286
Views: 88249

Re: E.B.S.I.S. - Eastern Baltic Soveriegn Independant States

quick update: the next couple updates are in the works, when i have time. i've got a lot of writing to do to to make the Africa campaign portion of the history viable. before i can write up the history in full, i've got to detail out an enemy group in more detail than previous groups. mainly becaus...
by RiverJack
Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:49 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Suggestion for Pall./ND: Southern Cross vehicle minis
Replies: 24
Views: 8327

Re: Suggestion for Pall./ND: Southern Cross vehicle minis

for those curious, infantry in the RT:tactics game would be about 6mm tall. there are a large number of games which use this scale, complete with infantry. a multitude of historical microarmor games, which usually use figures from GHQ, Heroic and Ros, and dozens of other manufacturers. these are ge...
by RiverJack
Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:50 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Suggestion for Pall./ND: Southern Cross vehicle minis
Replies: 24
Views: 8327

Re: Suggestion for Pall./ND: Southern Cross vehicle minis

Yeah I would like to add they would need to make every bioroid including minis of the hover sled. I also would like to see minis of the Bioroid Robotech master infantry including Terminators.
by RiverJack
Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:49 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Suggestion for Pall./ND: Southern Cross vehicle minis
Replies: 24
Views: 8327

Re: Suggestion for Pall./ND: Southern Cross vehicle minis

Well, I was about the say that 1/285 scale infantry would be tricky, but I took a moment to Google it first, and it seems there several wargames that make use of that scale for infantry combat, along with their gear and vertices, so hell, go for it I say. Likely takes a very fine casting process, b...
by RiverJack
Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:46 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Robotech® RPG Tactics Ur pledged is...
Replies: 223
Views: 61696

Re: Robotech® RPG Tactics Ur pledged is...

Well, I'm holding onto my hard-earned cash until I get a confirmation on Southern Cross mini's. I will not get burned a second time by Harmony Gold by getting my hopes up only to be crapped on by the damning with faint praise of Tommy Yune and the other chuckleheads running the franchise. Perfectly...
by RiverJack
Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:52 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Robotech® RPG Tactics Ur pledged is...
Replies: 223
Views: 61696

Re: Robotech® RPG Tactics Ur pledged is...

Kevin & Alex have both said they plan and have approval from HG to make Masters pieces at the same scale. The problem so far is they will not give out details of that plan and along with Ninja Division have kept linking those plans to the success of the Macross KS & market roll out of its g...
by RiverJack
Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:45 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Robotech® RPG Tactics Ur pledged is...
Replies: 223
Views: 61696

Re: Robotech® RPG Tactics Ur pledged is...

This looks good. Their better be a Southern Cross miniature set. If they showed they were making minis based on every Bioroid I would pledge right now. i think( this is rumers NOW) next month will start Southern Cross miniature set!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well when it becomes something more than a rumor I...
by RiverJack
Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:31 am
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Robotech® RPG Tactics Ur pledged is...
Replies: 223
Views: 61696

Re: Robotech® RPG Tactics Ur pledged is...

This looks good. Their better be a Southern Cross miniature set. If they showed they were making minis based on every Bioroid I would pledge right now.
by RiverJack
Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:52 pm
Forum: Rifts®
Topic: Dogfighting in Rifts
Replies: 15
Views: 1860

Re: Dogfighting in Rifts

Has anyone encountered rules specifically for High-Speed aerial combat? I know that there were some squirreled away in the Phase World book but frankly, they suck. I used them in a Rifts/Robotech combo game and it totally killed the atmosphere. House rules or official, either's good. I don't think ...
by RiverJack
Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:30 am
Forum: Rifts®
Topic: Rifts New Navy Manuscript sent in!
Replies: 78
Views: 11019

Re: Rifts New Navy Manuscript sent in!

@Greg Diaczyk: I am sorry I did not see you post this topic before I started mine about the New Navy. This is a long shot but could you please include the ASF-14 Tomcat for the New Navy? I would have done anything to fly this for the Navy even as a test pilot. This thing is beast, an apex predator ...
by RiverJack
Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:29 pm
Forum: Rifts®
Topic: Rifts New Navy Manuscript sent in!
Replies: 78
Views: 11019

Re: Rifts New Navy Manuscript sent in!

@Greg Diaczyk: I am sorry I did not see you post this topic before I started mine about the New Navy. This is a long shot but could you please include the ASF-14 Tomcat for the New Navy? I would have done anything to fly this for the Navy even as a test pilot. This thing is beast, an apex predator o...
by RiverJack
Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:12 pm
Forum: Rifts®
Topic: Will their b additional lore and equipment for the New Navy.
Replies: 4
Views: 500

Re: Will their b additional lore and equipment for the New Navy.

The thing that confuses me is that I can't for the life of me figure out why there aren't more full conversion cyborgs in service with the New Navy. Much like space, deep submergence activities are NOT forgiving, and with Sea Titans being around, and access to the same level of medical technology t...
by RiverJack
Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:09 pm
Forum: Rifts®
Topic: Will their b additional lore and equipment for the New Navy.
Replies: 4
Views: 500

Re: Will their b additional lore and equipment for the New Navy.

I am just curious if their will be or has been more things added to my favorite faction in Rifts, the New Navy, I only have one book that talks about them. If I could add one thing it would be the ASF-14 Tomcat. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&...
by RiverJack
Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:57 pm
Forum: Rifts®
Topic: Ever been a whale? Crazy R.C.C.s
Replies: 33
Views: 2330

Re: Ever been a whale? Crazy R.C.C.s

That's hilarious. No way man, hilarious is that he has psychic invisibility and the spell swim on air so he can mil around a room or fly around a public place and everyone just ignores him like he is apart of the background scenery. 3 Game Masters have already rejected this character but he has an ...
by RiverJack
Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:56 pm
Forum: Rifts®
Topic: Will their b additional lore and equipment for the New Navy.
Replies: 4
Views: 500

Will their b additional lore and equipment for the New Navy.

I am just curious if their will be or has been more things added to my favorite faction in Rifts, the New Navy, I only have one book that talks about them. If I could add one thing it would be the ASF-14 Tomcat. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&c...
by RiverJack
Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:39 pm
Forum: Rifts®
Topic: Russian cyborgs.
Replies: 8
Views: 858

Re: Russian cyborgs.

Yes. Russian cyborgs can power their weapons with their internal nuclear power supply. Also, all shocktroopers listed are basic shocktroopers and can be upgraded. The Sovietski sourceboook will have a few more for people to take in. Sovietski sourcebook? No one told me anything about more Russian c...
by RiverJack
Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:22 pm
Forum: Rifts®
Topic: Russian cyborgs.
Replies: 8
Views: 858

Re: Russian cyborgs.

@taalismn and Johnnycat93: Thank you for your reply. I always assumed they could do what I was asking because of the shoulder weapon mount/clamps and the weapon to cyborg energy link. I could see some limitations when it comes to aiming besides the limitations listed about using the cyborgs own powe...
by RiverJack
Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:33 pm
Forum: Rifts®
Topic: Russian cyborgs.
Replies: 8
Views: 858

Russian cyborgs.

I am sorry if this has been asked already BUT is it possible to power-up all the weapons that our mounted/clamped to Shock Cyborgs giving them 3-6 additional weapons to fire with in combat? The reason I am asking is because I am trying to find a reason to prove that Russian Cyborgs are at the least ...
by RiverJack
Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:00 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Generations of VFs in the current Robotech continuity
Replies: 171
Views: 46964

Re: Generations of VFs in the current Robotech continuity

But we can't infer anything from it, except that they don't seem to have properly animated the launch sequence in any modes other than battroid. Scott explicitly says he can't get a lock, so the idea that he didn't use all his missiles because he had one is obviously right out. Well the fact is the...
by RiverJack
Sun Sep 30, 2012 11:25 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Palladium and Robotech
Replies: 20
Views: 4887

Re: Palladium and Robotech

] So you're saying Kevin lied when he said Palladium was largely flying blind when they made 1E? I don't know anything about the podcast, maybe it was edited incorrectly, maybe his words came out wrong. I don't I just know what he or his employe told me. From what it sounded like it was Kevin that ...
by RiverJack
Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:52 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Palladium and Robotech
Replies: 20
Views: 4887

Re: Palladium and Robotech

I do not think this would be the case at all. I would bet that if HG loses the lic. then it would return to those company they bought them from. So we would lose robotech. You never know in a case like this. Did you know that Sam Raimi had plans to make new evil dead movies? Well because of a state...
by RiverJack
Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:41 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Palladium and Robotech
Replies: 20
Views: 4887

Re: Palladium and Robotech

Palladium couldn't afford to buy such a thing even if they wanted too. Also I don't recall Kevin ever really having to go through Carl for anything the first time round. It was Kevin or one of his staff that told me about them working together. From my understanding they worked really close togethe...
by RiverJack
Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:34 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Palladium and Robotech
Replies: 20
Views: 4887

Re: Palladium and Robotech

Considering that they have other responsibilities that are part of their actual jobs, they can't be expected to police every remark on the Robotech.com forums. That's the volunteer moderators missed or ignored it does not constitute proof that they agree with or support such an idea. They are moder...
by RiverJack
Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:01 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Palladium and Robotech
Replies: 20
Views: 4887

Re: Palladium and Robotech

One thing to remember: Palladium has leased the license for making "Robotech: The Role Playing Game". This means that they need to do the bidding of Harmony Gold. Which means dealing with Tommy Yune who is their creative director on the Robotech Franchise. Yeah I know but the way that Tom...
by RiverJack
Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:45 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Palladium and Robotech
Replies: 20
Views: 4887

Palladium and Robotech

I love the work that Palladiums writers/game designers have done with Robotech. I have had great experiences with the Palladium staff, they are professional and hard working. I feel that Tommy Yune and his brother are screw ups that have seriously damaged the world of Robotech let alone it's franchi...
by RiverJack
Sat May 22, 2010 4:24 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Optional rules for diffrent weapons in RoboTech or Rifts
Replies: 20
Views: 6335

Re: Optional rules for diffrent weapons in RoboTech or Rifts

Through not threw right? Both Anyhow G-force tolerances have NOTHING to do with the capability for something being able to withstand getting hit by a 120mm SABOT round fired from an M1A1. A single sidewinder missile or a few 20mm rounds is enough to put down an F-14, or any other combat aircraft, i...
by RiverJack
Fri May 07, 2010 11:56 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Optional rules for diffrent weapons in RoboTech or Rifts
Replies: 20
Views: 6335

Re: Optional rules for diffrent weapons in RoboTech or Rifts

and if those so called materials from the SDF-1 existed they would be used on tanks as well. Tanks are cheaper to make then mecha and will be a better overall platform. There is a ten plus page on the subject here somewhere that proves this. I saw it its debatable in some parts, just a few examples...
by RiverJack
Wed May 05, 2010 12:55 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Optional rules for diffrent weapons in RoboTech or Rifts
Replies: 20
Views: 6335

Re: Optional rules for diffrent weapons in RoboTech or Rifts

A modern day tank is an MDC vehicle. So we have those so called ‘super materials’ you speak of in use as of today. Furthermore, even though a Destriod is not ‘hollow’ it still has a pilot compartment which will implode after reaching crush depth. Unless the story cannon has been changed about the n...
by RiverJack
Tue May 04, 2010 12:30 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Optional rules for diffrent weapons in RoboTech or Rifts
Replies: 20
Views: 6335

Re: Optional rules for diffrent weapons in RoboTech or Rifts

I havnt been on here for a long time and wanted to share my opt rules I made up for RoboTech the Navy, and Rifts.
What ever happend to the RoboTech Fleet book that was going to come out?
by RiverJack
Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:23 pm
Forum: Robotech® - The Shadow Chronicles® - Macross II®
Topic: Some crazy Haydonite Speculating
Replies: 23
Views: 1861

Re: Some crazy Haydonite Speculating

Iv been thinking lately that the Haydonites were built by the Masters manly because they both have triumvirates and there technology looks nearly the same. What if the Awareness really is just the Masters or a Master that gives the Haydonites orders. Think of the Awareness as really being an over gl...

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